Re: [Mailman-Developers] New RFC on using DKIM with MLMs

On 10/25/11 6:00 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
I would consider an RFC that tells some people they need to violate the laws of their country to follow it to have a defect.
Their are places, like Germany has been mentioned, where bulk mailers, like Mailing Lists, need to place in a prominent place unsubscription instructions.
It is a fact, that in the current state of software, the LIST-UNSUBSCRIBE header is not likely to be seen by a typical user.
Therefore, the only legal place to put the required notice is in the body of the message.
Now, if 90+% of people would see the LIST-UNSUBSCRIBE header someone might be able to make a case that the few who didn't should have been able to see it, but with Current MUAs it isn't seen. I suspect that (way) less than 10% of people would see the LIST-UNSUBSCRIBE header unless they went looking for it. Is there even an MUA that by default will show it? How many people have MUAs that can even be easily configured to show this header and not all headers? I can think of a few that can be configured to add arbitrary headers to the default show list, but these are not the ones used by most people, but I am not sure if I can think of one that knows about this header so you can add it without having to personally know about it.

The RFC doesn't say you have to do that.
What it says is the list should re-sign if it modifies the message (or, in general, re-sign anyway). So append whatever you want, just re-sign the message. Are you insisting that advice is defective?
What it also says is if you want author signatures to survive MLMs, then you have to re-think those practices. But nobody really expects that right now, I think.

The RFC doesn't say you have to do that.
What it says is the list should re-sign if it modifies the message (or, in general, re-sign anyway). So append whatever you want, just re-sign the message. Are you insisting that advice is defective?
What it also says is if you want author signatures to survive MLMs, then you have to re-think those practices. But nobody really expects that right now, I think.
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Murray S. Kucherawy
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Richard Damon