Hello Mark,

the hyperkitty page for https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ has this form templates/hyperkitty/overwiev.html:

<!-- Overview page for large screens. -->

<div class="d-none d-md-block"> <div class="list-actions"> {% if posting_enabled %} <a href="{% url "hk_message_new" mlist_fqdn=mlist.name %}" class="btn btn-outline-primary {% if not user.is_authenticated %} disabled" title="{% trans 'You must be logged-in to create a thread.' %}{% endif %}"> <i class="fa fa-plus"></i> {% trans '<span class="d-none d-md-inline">Start a n</span><span class="d-md-none">N</span>ew thread' %} </a> {% endif %} </br>

Now, class="d-none d-md-block" is display:block , when the viewport is at least 576px, otherwise it is display:none . Likewise

<span class="d-none d-md-inline">Start a n</span><span class="d-md- none">N</span>ew thread

class="d-none d-md-inline” is display:inline, when the width of the view port is at least 576px and display:none otherwise. Class="d-md- none" is only visible, when the width is at most 576px.

For screens, which are less than 576px wide, the whole block «<div class="d-none d-md-block">» is hidden, and «<span class="d-none d-md- inline">Start a n</span><span class="d-md-none">N</span>ew thread» is not displayed.

So, when is “<span class="d-md-none">N</span>” supposed to appear? It never appears.

Greetings Дилян

On Sun, 2022-05-15 at 18:22 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 5/15/22 12:21, Дилян Палаузов wrote:

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Hello,

I am trying to translate HyperKitty.  Can somebody explain me in the strings:

<span class="d-none d-md-inline">Start a n</span><span class="d-md- none">N</span>ew thread

<span class="d-none d-md-inline">Manage s</span><span class="d-md- none">S</span>ubscription

what the purpose is of d-none, d-md-inline, d-md-none and how are these strings supposed to be translated?

They are bootstrap classec and are not to be translated.

...

Assuming they are Bootstrap-invention to present different text on differently-wide screens, I tried to make my browser narrower and wider, while https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ is loaded, and I see no big difference.  The whole block “＋Start a new thread” is replaced by “＋ New”, without “ thread” afterwards.

I'm not sure why you see that. Taking

<span class="d-none d-md-inline">Start a n</span><span 
class="d-md-none">N</span>ew thread

as an example the whole point of the span tags is to render the initial text as either Start a n or N depending on screen size and in either case followed by ew thread so that the entire rendered string becomes either Start a new thread or New thread depending on screen size. That's all you need to translate,

Depending on what the actual translations of Start a new thread are are New thread you may be able to translate this similarly or you may need to translate it more like

<span class="d-none d-md-inline">Start a new</span><span 
class="d-md-none">New</span> thread

or even

<span class="d-none d-md-inline">Start a new thread</span><span 
class="d-md-none">New thread</span>

-- Mark Sapiro mark@msapiro.net        The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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