Welcome to our Google Summer of Code Students!
I hope you'll all join me in welcoming our new Google Summer of Code students:
Benedict Stein (benste on IRC) will be working to complete the GSoC work Anna did last summer on the django-based web UI for Mailman 3.0.
Drew Rodman will be converting pipermail to use SQL (rather than pickles) for storing data and creating an upgrade script to help users migrate their archives to the new format. He's even hoping to get Stable URLs working by the end of the summer!
Dushyant Bansal (dushyant on IRC) will be working on the interface of the archives, integrating work from Yian and Priya's GSoC projects last summer and getting it all ready to go for Mailman 3.
I'm really excited to have all these great projects and great students!
While the students do have a set of official mentors (Barry, Florian, Anna and me), you're all encouraged to help out throughout the summer. The end goal is to have some fully integrated awesomeness, so don't be shy if you've got questions, suggestions, etc.
If you've been lurking here wondering how to get involved with Mailman 3, now might be a great time: we've got mentors who've already set aside time to be involved this summer, and we've got students who could benefit from having more people involved in development effort over the next few months. For example, we discovered while our students were writing patches that we don't have a great description of the Mailman 3 install process, so if you want to install it and write up your experiences on the wiki (or just in a blog post we can link to!), that's a great place to start!
Terri
Thanks for the welcome,
I've updated my proposal page on the wiki - which now lists the ToDo list http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/benste%27s+GSoc+2011+-+page Really hope to start asap, but for now I'm a little bit busy learning for my exams.
@*Taciano are you sure you want to share your postal adress and phone number on a public wiki ?? *
Einen schönen Tag wünscht:
Benedict Stein (versendet über Gmail-Webinterface)
2011/4/27 Terri Oda <terri@zone12.com>
I hope you'll all join me in welcoming our new Google Summer of Code students:
Benedict Stein (benste on IRC) will be working to complete the GSoC work Anna did last summer on the django-based web UI for Mailman 3.0.
Drew Rodman will be converting pipermail to use SQL (rather than pickles) for storing data and creating an upgrade script to help users migrate their archives to the new format. He's even hoping to get Stable URLs working by the end of the summer!
Dushyant Bansal (dushyant on IRC) will be working on the interface of the archives, integrating work from Yian and Priya's GSoC projects last summer and getting it all ready to go for Mailman 3.
I'm really excited to have all these great projects and great students!
While the students do have a set of official mentors (Barry, Florian, Anna and me), you're all encouraged to help out throughout the summer. The end goal is to have some fully integrated awesomeness, so don't be shy if you've got questions, suggestions, etc.
If you've been lurking here wondering how to get involved with Mailman 3, now might be a great time: we've got mentors who've already set aside time to be involved this summer, and we've got students who could benefit from having more people involved in development effort over the next few months. For example, we discovered while our students were writing patches that we don't have a great description of the Mailman 3 install process, so if you want to install it and write up your experiences on the wiki (or just in a blog post we can link to!), that's a great place to start!
Terri
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:02:58AM -0400, Terri Oda wrote:
I hope you'll all join me in welcoming our new Google Summer of Code
students:
Awesome news.
- Benedict Stein (benste on IRC) will be working to complete the GSoC
work Anna did last summer on the django-based web UI for Mailman 3.0.
'Complete' sounds interesting. Is that pretty achievable? I can't believe it's almost been a year.
- Drew Rodman will be converting pipermail to use SQL (rather than
pickles) for storing data and creating an upgrade script to help users
migrate their archives to the new format. He's even hoping to get
Stable URLs working by the end of the summer!
Was the plan to use SQLite? Or the choices (and it should be a choice) of MySQL / Postgres?
- Dushyant Bansal (dushyant on IRC) will be working on the interface of
the archives, integrating work from Yian and Priya's GSoC projects last
summer and getting it all ready to go for Mailman 3.
Nifty.
I'm really excited to have all these great projects and great students!
You're not the only one.
While the students do have a set of official mentors (Barry, Florian,
Anna and me), you're all encouraged to help out throughout the summer.
The end goal is to have some fully integrated awesomeness, so don't be
shy if you've got questions, suggestions, etc.
My suggestions from last year are still pertinent ;o)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamamyl/4484703864/If you've been lurking here wondering how to get involved with Mailman
3, now might be a great time: we've got mentors who've already set aside
time to be involved this summer, and we've got students who could
benefit from having more people involved in development effort over the
next few months. For example, we discovered while our students were
writing patches that we don't have a great description of the Mailman 3
install process, so if you want to install it and write up your
experiences on the wiki (or just in a blog post we can link to!), that's
a great place to start!
Is it too early to start thinking about Operating System/Distro packagers/maintainers, for MM3?
-- "Saying that road tax should be spent on transport is like saying that alcohol duty should be spent on pubs."
HI Adam,
why don't you upload your idea to your ideas page in the wiki ? :-) http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Web+UI+Mockups
Regarding the installation - will take some time, but i already started taking notes on how to get the Django 3.0 WebUI working on top of the Mailman part, I'd be fine sharing this notes with all of you, but it turns out that there are a few bugs in the UI which need to be patched first (patches are already in LP)
If someone else would write a how-to install mailman3.0 it would be brilliant.
Regarding the packaging - i don't know the mailman project in detail yet, but i think it's a bit to early, you could start adding a PPA to the projects site owning a few DEB package drafts - this would speedup installing in Ubuntu / Debian a lot
Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:57 +0100 schrieb Adam McGreggor:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:02:58AM -0400, Terri Oda wrote:
I hope you'll all join me in welcoming our new Google Summer of Code
students:Awesome news.
- Benedict Stein (benste on IRC) will be working to complete the GSoC
work Anna did last summer on the django-based web UI for Mailman 3.0.'Complete' sounds interesting. Is that pretty achievable? I can't believe it's almost been a year.
- Drew Rodman will be converting pipermail to use SQL (rather than
pickles) for storing data and creating an upgrade script to help users
migrate their archives to the new format. He's even hoping to get
Stable URLs working by the end of the summer!Was the plan to use SQLite? Or the choices (and it should be a choice) of MySQL / Postgres?
- Dushyant Bansal (dushyant on IRC) will be working on the interface of
the archives, integrating work from Yian and Priya's GSoC projects last
summer and getting it all ready to go for Mailman 3.Nifty.
I'm really excited to have all these great projects and great students!
You're not the only one.
While the students do have a set of official mentors (Barry, Florian,
Anna and me), you're all encouraged to help out throughout the summer.
The end goal is to have some fully integrated awesomeness, so don't be
shy if you've got questions, suggestions, etc.My suggestions from last year are still pertinent ;o)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamamyl/4484703864/If you've been lurking here wondering how to get involved with Mailman
3, now might be a great time: we've got mentors who've already set aside
time to be involved this summer, and we've got students who could
benefit from having more people involved in development effort over the
next few months. For example, we discovered while our students were
writing patches that we don't have a great description of the Mailman 3
install process, so if you want to install it and write up your
experiences on the wiki (or just in a blog post we can link to!), that's
a great place to start!Is it too early to start thinking about Operating System/Distro packagers/maintainers, for MM3?
--
Einen schönen Tag wünscht: Benedict Stein
On Apr 27, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Adam McGreggor wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:02:58AM -0400, Terri Oda wrote:
- Benedict Stein (benste on IRC) will be working to complete the GSoC
work Anna did last summer on the django-based web UI for Mailman 3.0.'Complete' sounds interesting. Is that pretty achievable? I can't believe it's almost been a year.
(I'll definitely have to use "Time Stands Still" as a code name for an upcoming release. :)
Remember that MM3 is re-architected to be several components: a core engine with no ui but with a REST API so that it can be integrated with external sites easily, a Django based web ui as the official web interface to that engine. So the latter makes all the same calls through REST that any other web framework could make.
I'm hoping that the Django ui will be as complete as the current MM2 web ui (though fast-forwarded 15 years in web technology, much more usable, and *much* prettier :). But I also don't think it needs to be entirely complete in order to be releasable. It just has to be functionally useful enough that people can create and delete lists, manage subscriptions, configure common options (but not the entire universe of configurability, at least for now), and manage the admin database. With our great mentors, our great students, and you <wink> I think that's achievable, and I'm committed to ensure the engine and REST API will provide what's needed.
- Drew Rodman will be converting pipermail to use SQL (rather than
pickles) for storing data and creating an upgrade script to help users
migrate their archives to the new format. He's even hoping to get
Stable URLs working by the end of the summer!Was the plan to use SQLite? Or the choices (and it should be a choice) of MySQL / Postgres?
My preference would be to use the Storm ORM, which is what the engine uses. By default, that would be backed by SQLite3 since Python comes with that support out of the box. But it should also be possible to fairly easily change the backend to be MySQL or PostgreSQL with the change of a database URL.
- Dushyant Bansal (dushyant on IRC) will be working on the interface of
the archives, integrating work from Yian and Priya's GSoC projects last
summer and getting it all ready to go for Mailman 3.Nifty.
I'm really excited to have all these great projects and great students!
You're not the only one.
While the students do have a set of official mentors (Barry, Florian,
Anna and me), you're all encouraged to help out throughout the summer.
The end goal is to have some fully integrated awesomeness, so don't be
shy if you've got questions, suggestions, etc.My suggestions from last year are still pertinent ;o)
I am a really crappy web ui designer ;), so fortunately we have great folks like Terri and Florian to help lead those efforts. If you like working on web ui technologies, please do get involved.
If you've been lurking here wondering how to get involved with Mailman
3, now might be a great time: we've got mentors who've already set aside
time to be involved this summer, and we've got students who could
benefit from having more people involved in development effort over the
next few months. For example, we discovered while our students were
writing patches that we don't have a great description of the Mailman 3
install process, so if you want to install it and write up your
experiences on the wiki (or just in a blog post we can link to!), that's
a great place to start!Is it too early to start thinking about Operating System/Distro packagers/maintainers, for MM3?
Nope. I've been thinking about putting together a Debian/Ubuntu package, at least in my PPA for MM3 3.0.0a7. If you're interested in doing that or any other distro packaging, let's discuss on this mailing list.
Cheers, -Barry
On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Terri Oda wrote:
I hope you'll all join me in welcoming our new Google Summer of Code students:
Benedict Stein (benste on IRC) will be working to complete the GSoC work
Anna did last summer on the django-based web UI for Mailman 3.0.
Drew Rodman will be converting pipermail to use SQL (rather than pickles)
for storing data and creating an upgrade script to help users migrate their
archives to the new format. He's even hoping to get Stable URLs working by
the end of the summer!
Dushyant Bansal (dushyant on IRC) will be working on the interface of the
archives, integrating work from Yian and Priya's GSoC projects last summer
and getting it all ready to go for Mailman 3.
I'm really excited to have all these great projects and great students!
Indeed! I'm really excited about our students and the projects they're going to be working on. I think we'll make some really excellent progress toward our 11.11.11 release date:
http://www.wefearchange.org/2011/04/release-that-rewrite-on-111111.html
My *huge* thanks also go to Terri, Florian, and Anna for their mentorship this year and all the great work they did on our GSoC applications.
While the students do have a set of official mentors (Barry, Florian, Anna and me), you're all encouraged to help out throughout the summer. The end goal is to have some fully integrated awesomeness, so don't be shy if you've got questions, suggestions, etc.
If you've been lurking here wondering how to get involved with Mailman 3, now might be a great time: we've got mentors who've already set aside time to be involved this summer, and we've got students who could benefit from having more people involved in development effort over the next few months. For example, we discovered while our students were writing patches that we don't have a great description of the Mailman 3 install process, so if you want to install it and write up your experiences on the wiki (or just in a blog post we can link to!), that's a great place to start!
Yes!
I am planning a 3.0.0a7 release this week, and as always am available to answer questions during US/Eastern (UTC-4) working hours on #mailman on freenode. I encourage you to come hang out there, and also ask questions on this mailing list.
Cheers, -Barry
participants (4)
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Adam McGreggor -
Barry Warsaw -
Benedict Stein -
Terri Oda