Hello!
I've just found mailman and i like it wery much, it seems much nicer then any other mailing list server i've seen. Here are some problems I've found: I tried to convert a list with about 300 normal and 220 digested subscribers to mailman with convert_list. It always failed with something like fork: resource currently not available ... it tries to send too many mails at once. The second problem is: the mail wrapper accepts exactly one gid to be run as. This makes it difficult to package up mailman in a binary package, for example for debian linux. I'm a debian developer myself btw. The problem is that we have several MTA-s available in the distribution (sendmail, smail, exim, zmailer, and as a non-free addition, even qmail), and each can use different gids, and even one can be configured to use a gid other then the default. So it would be very nice if it could be configured to accept a gid from a set ...
Greg
-- Madarasz Gergely gorgo@caesar.elte.hu gorgo@linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/
I agree that the mail gid's in particular should be changed to accept a set of calling gid's.
i patched an older version for this change some time ago. i'm sure that that patch won't apply to the current version, so i'll try to cook up another one over this weekend.
scott
On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 03:19:49PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: | Hello! | | I've just found mailman and i like it wery much, it seems much nicer then | any other mailing list server i've seen. Here are some problems I've | found: | I tried to convert a list with about 300 normal and 220 digested | subscribers to mailman with convert_list. It always failed with something | like fork: resource currently not available ... it tries to send too many | mails at once. | The second problem is: the mail wrapper accepts exactly one gid to be run | as. This makes it difficult to package up mailman in a binary package, for | example for debian linux. I'm a debian developer myself btw. The problem | is that we have several MTA-s available in the distribution (sendmail, | smail, exim, zmailer, and as a non-free addition, even qmail), and each | can use different gids, and even one can be configured to use a gid other | then the default. So it would be very nice if it could be configured to | accept a gid from a set ... | | Greg | | -- | Madarasz Gergely gorgo@caesar.elte.hu gorgo@linux.rulez.org | It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. | Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. | HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/ | | | _______________________________________________ | Mailman-Developers maillist - Mailman-Developers@python.org | http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers |
"S" == Scott scott@chronis.pobox.com writes:
S> I agree that the mail gid's in particular should be changed to
S> accept a set of calling gid's.
I wonder if it would be better to get the GID out of an environment variable of a file? Perhaps that just defeats the purpose of having a hard coded GID.
Using a list of GIDs probably won't be difficult, although the configure interface will change, because it currently uses --with-*-gid="list of gids" as a list of GIDs to check, one at a time, until it finds an existing one.
-Barry
"BAW" == Barry A Warsaw bwarsaw@CNRI.Reston.Va.US writes:
BAW> I wonder if it would be better to get the GID out of an BAW> environment variable of a file? Perhaps that just defeats the BAW> purpose of having a hard coded GID.
It may be simpler, and sufficient for Debian's purposes, to simply accept any gid less than 100.
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On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Johnie Ingram wrote:
"BAW" == Barry A Warsaw bwarsaw@CNRI.Reston.Va.US writes:
BAW> I wonder if it would be better to get the GID out of an BAW> environment variable of a file? Perhaps that just defeats the BAW> purpose of having a hard coded GID.
It may be simpler, and sufficient for Debian's purposes, to simply accept any gid less than 100.
Qmail uses nogroup (65534). But then again qmail could be set up to run mailman without the wrapper. Talking about qmail... anyone uses it with mailman ? My mails did not go out...
Greg
-- Madarasz Gergely gorgo@caesar.elte.hu gorgo@linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/
On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:
"S" == Scott scott@chronis.pobox.com writes:
S> I agree that the mail gid's in particular should be changed to S> accept a set of calling gid's.I wonder if it would be better to get the GID out of an environment variable of a file? Perhaps that just defeats the purpose of having a hard coded GID.
I think it would be the best solution..... a config file which defines MAIL_GID, CGI_GID, etc...
-- Madarasz Gergely gorgo@caesar.elte.hu gorgo@linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://www.cab.u-szeged.hu/local/linux/
"GM" == Gergely Madarasz gorgo@caesar.elte.hu writes:
GM> I tried to convert a list with about 300 normal and 220
GM> digested subscribers to mailman with convert_list. It always
GM> failed with something like fork: resource currently not
GM> available ... it tries to send too many mails at once.
Hmm, I haven't played with convert_list yet, but I hope to soon.
-Barry
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