HI,

SORRY to send this to developers directly. This question is still

awaiting approval to the Mailman users list.

I want to create an umbrella list (a list with ONLY lists nested

within it). The top level list is simply named top. The nested lists are injerry, inclint, and incat. I have mailman-v2.1.1 installed and is the FIRST mailman to be installed on these servers. I have reviewed the FAQs and the mailing lists archives, which currently only address ensuring unique mail addresses are in the nested lists.

I have currently set ALL lists (top, injerry, incat, and inclint)

with NO Moderation and accepting from everyone. If I mail to any one of the nested (injerry, incat, and inclint) lists as anyone the message delivers no problems. HOWEVER when I send to the umbrella list (top) the List owner of the nested lists (injerry, incat, and inclint) get a message indicating moderation is required for the message sent. Have a missed something or is this incorrect behavior??

BELOW is the config_list output of the parameters I think are

important. Attached is the complete config_list output for the umbrella list (top) and a nested list (injerry). Also is the mm_cfg.py settings for the site.

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks Jerry

TOP Level List (Umbrella List) bash-2.04$ grep member top | grep -v "^#" umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner' new_member_options = 256 default_member_moderation = 0 member_moderation_action = 0 member_moderation_notice = '' accept_these_nonmembers = [] hold_these_nonmembers = [] reject_these_nonmembers = [] discard_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 0

NESTED LIST bash-2.04$ grep member injerry | grep -v "^#" umbrella_member_suffix = '-owner' new_member_options = 256 default_member_moderation = 0 member_moderation_action = 0 member_moderation_notice = '' accept_these_nonmembers = [] hold_these_nonmembers = [] reject_these_nonmembers = [] discard_these_nonmembers = [] generic_nonmember_action = 0

Mm_cfg.py settings other than virtual host which is set. # Should a list, by default be advertised? What is the default maximum number # of explicit recipients allowed? What is the default maximum message size # allowed? DEFAULT_LIST_ADVERTISED = 1 DEFAULT_MAX_NUM_RECIPIENTS = 100000 DEFAULT_MAX_MESSAGE_SIZE = 0 # KB

# Are archives on or off by default? DEFAULT_ARCHIVE = 0 # 0=Off, 1=On

# Set this variable to 1 to allow list owners to delete their own mailing # lists. You may not want to give them this power, in which case, setting # this variable to 0 instead requires list removal to be done by the site # administrator, via the command line script bin/rmlist. OWNERS_CAN_DELETE_THEIR_OWN_LISTS = 1

##### # Digestification defaults #####

# Will list be available in non-digested form? DEFAULT_NONDIGESTABLE = 1

# Will list be available in digested form? DEFAULT_DIGESTABLE = 0 DEFAULT_DIGEST_IS_DEFAULT = 0

# This variable controls whether monthly password reminders are sent. DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0

# Send welcome messages to new users? Probably should keep this set to 1. DEFAULT_SEND_WELCOME_MSG = 0

# Send goodbye messages to unsubscribed members? Probably should keep this # set to 1. DEFAULT_SEND_GOODBYE_MSG = 0

# How long should messages which have delivery failures continue to be # retried? After this period of time, a message that has failed recipients # will be dequeued and those recipients will never receive the message. DELIVERY_RETRY_PERIOD = days(3)

# Should list members, by default, have their posts be moderated? DEFAULT_DEFAULT_MEMBER_MODERATION = 0

# What shold happen to non-member posts which are do not match explicit # non-member actions? # 0 = Accept # 1 = Hold # 2 = Reject # 3 = Discard DEFAULT_GENERIC_NONMEMBER_ACTION = 0

# See "Bitfield for user options" below; make this a sum of those options, to # make all new members of lists start with those options flagged. We assume # by default that people don't want to receive two copies of posts. Note # however that the member moderation flag's initial value is controlled by the # list's config variable default_member_moderation. # Bitfield for user options. See DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS above to set # defaults for all new lists. #Digests = 0 # handled by other mechanism, doesn't need a flag. #DisableDelivery = 1 # Obsolete; use set/getDeliveryStatus() #DontReceiveOwnPosts = 2 # Non-digesters only #AcknowledgePosts = 4 #DisableMime = 8 # Digesters only #ConcealSubscription = 16 #SuppressPasswordReminder = 32 #ReceiveNonmatchingTopics = 64 #Moderate = 128 #DontReceiveDuplicates = 256 #DEFAULT_NEW_MEMBER_OPTIONS = 256