On 2003-02-26 at 18:00:06 [+0100], mailman-developers-request@python.org wrote:

Chuq Von Rospach wrote:

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you go tell hotmail to fix itself, Barry.

...or tell your users to drop that piece of crap.

yes yes, I know, millions on the Internet, elitist attitude, yadda yadda.

Actually it's worse than that it's counterproductive and that for two reasons: criticising the what a user uses is implied criticism of the user and this is not very friendly and as Chuq has pointed out may cause them to leave; more importantly, however, the big mail services are interested in having as good a relationship with list-servers as well. They like bounces as much as we do so they are really happy the fewer they get. Talking to the admins can be surprisingly helpful. I've got a list with a huge bias towards hotmail and will be talking to them about working together as well as possible. I'll post any useful response.

Charlie