Mailman 3 [ mailman-Bugs-229568 ] Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses - Mailman-Developers

2 Jul 2002 · *everyone's*

      Bugs item #229568, was opened at 2001-01-20 22:53
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Category: Pipermail
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Works For Me
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Aharon Varady (aharon)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Pipermail won't resolve author names of aol.com addresses
Initial Comment:
Pipermail does not resolve the "author" of emails sent from aol.com. Instead, Pipermail gives the email address of the listserve.
For example: "John" <user@aol.com>
is resolved by pipermail as:  listname@foo.com
and not as John.
This bug only occurs for users of aol.com addresses.

Comment By: Terri Oda (spot)
Date: 2002-07-02 16:00
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Whoops.  Diffed the wrong thing.  That's what happens when I
try to patch code but haven't slept in a few days.  This
actually works better:
180c180
<       if e is not None:
...
  if e is not None and self.email == "":

Comment By: Terri Oda (spot)
Date: 2002-07-01 14:03
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The problem is that it defaults to using the reply-to address if
it's set, and this isn't what we want when the reply-to is
always being set by the list.
Take a careful look at the rest of your archives and you'll
probably note that *everyone's* email address is showing up
as listname@foo.com.  It's a nice anti-spam feature, perhaps,
but probably not what you want.
Here's a quick fix for pipermail.py:
180c180
<       if e is not None:
...
  if e is not None and self.email is None:
This just changes it so that it defaults to the From: address
(when it's set) rather than the Reply-to address.
If there's some particular reason to take the Reply-To over the
From, I can make something which actually checks to see if
the reply-to is being set by the list, but this should solve your
problem for the moment.
Terri

Comment By: Ava Jarvis (katanalynx)
Date: 2002-06-10 22:14
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This bug -- for version 2.0.11 at least -- seems to occur
when 'from' only contains the email address.
There's some code in pipermail.py (version 2.0.11), line 177:
<excerpt>
# Figure out the e-mail address and poster's name
self.author, self.email = message.getaddr('From')
e = message.getheader('Reply-To')
if e is not None:
self.email = e
self.email = strip_separators(self.email)
self.author = strip_separators(self.author)
    if self.author == "":
        self.author = self.email
</excerpt>
If reply-to is set, then it is always taken as the author's
email address.  However, some lists set the reply-to field
to be, for instance, the list address.... and you can guess
what happens
next when there is no name comment/author.

Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2002-06-06 12:09
Message:
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This comment doesn't directly address the case you report,
but it might be related so I thought it worthwhile to submit.
I see you are using MM2.0.9.
I saw a similar problem with MM2.1b1, which was fixed in
MM2.1b2.
The problem then was that an address with a name "comment"
would be displayed in the archive as the list name, whereas
an address with a name comment would be displayed (properly)
with the name.  Example:
"John Doe" jdoe@whereever.com   displayed as "John Doe"
whereas
jdoe@whereever.com  displayed as the list name.
In your comment, you use an example with a name comment of
"John", but
in the example you provided there is no name comment field,
so perhaps my statements here do apply.

Comment By: Aharon Varady (aharon)
Date: 2002-06-05 21:37
Message:
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Well, this remains (and has always been) a problem for my
lists. I have never had a user posting with an aol.com
address that this hasn't been the case with.
Currently my solution is to replace the wrong address shown
(philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com) with a generic or balnk mark.
Here is the html source of a typical email from our
pipermail archive, and below it the source email with headers.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title> [Philly_ambient] tool!
</title>
<link REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
<link REL="made"
HREF="mailto:philly_ambient%40phobos.serve.com">
<meta NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
<link REL="Previous"
href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002904.html">
<link REL="Next"
href="http://phobos.serve.com/pipermail/philly_ambient/2002-June/002911.html">
<style TYPE="text/css"><!-- A:link {text-decoration:none}
A:visited {text-decoration:none} --></style></head>
<body BGCOLOR="#cccccc"><font face="Arial,Helvetica"
size=-1><ul>
<h4>[Philly_ambient] tool!</h4>Posted by <b>.   .  . .. .
.   .</b> on <i>Mon Jun  3 23:17:02 2002</i>
<p></font><table cellpadding=3><tr><td bgcolor=#FFFFFF
width="475"><font face="geneva,courier"><tt>
<!--beginarticle-->
<pre>hey all
a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday
august 12 at
sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh
well. is anyone
here into going?  if so, contact me privately.  i know it's
not ambient, but
neither is some of what we discuss here :)
let me know asap, please
gina
</pre>
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</tt></font></td></tr></table><font
face="Arial,Helvetica" size=-1>
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Here is the original email with headers:

...
From - Tue Jun 04 01:16:56 2002
X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"!
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
Return-Path: <philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com>
Delivered-To: aharon@phobos.serve.com
Received: from phobos.serve.com (localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1])
by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
id 6BC4D52D2B; Mon,  3 Jun 2002 23:17:06 -0400 (EDT)
Delivered-To: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com
Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com
[152.163.225.102])
by phobos.serve.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F82F52D1D
for <philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com>; Mon,  3 Jun 2002
23:16:46 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from Mistsojorn@aol.com
by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id p.d4.184e63f9 (17378)
for <philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com>; Mon, 3 Jun 2002
23:14:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mistsojorn@aol.com
Message-ID: <d4.184e63f9.2a2d8a9b@aol.com>
To: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66
Subject: [Philly_ambient] tool!
Sender: philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com
Errors-To: philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com
X-BeenThere: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com
List-Help:
<mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com>
List-Subscribe:
<http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient>,
<mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=subscribe>
List-Id: a discussion list relevant to Philadelphia Ambient
and Experimental Psychedelic Music Enthusiasts
<philly_ambient.phobos.serve.com>
List-Unsubscribe:
<http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient>,
<mailto:philly_ambient-request@phobos.serve.com?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive:
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X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 23:14:35 EDT
X-UIDL: m;n!!9'f!!a2E"!3;D"!
hey all
a friend can get me some free tickets to see TOOL on monday
august 12 at
sovereign bank arena in trenton. i know mondays suck, but oh
well. is anyone
here into going?  if so, contact me privately.  i know it's
not ambient, but
neither is some of what we discuss here :)
let me know asap, please
gina

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I don't know why pipermail would treat my aol subscribers
different either. But it is.
Aharon

Comment By: Barry A. Warsaw (bwarsaw)
Date: 2002-04-28 21:11
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Bizarre.  I've never seen this, and I can't see any reason
why Pipermail would treat aol.com addresses any different.

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