Mailman 3 May 2004 - Mailman-i18n

(sin asunto)
by Carlos Antonio Gomez 21 May '04

21 May '04

Hola Lista: Soy un recien ingresado miembro pero con un problema que me tiene hace 4 meses sin dormir. El problema esta en que tengo un servidor con RedHatAS3 en el cual tengo postfix + Mailman. Luego de migrar de un redhat7.3 (tambien la version de mailman cambio al igual que el MTA pues anteriormente era sendmail) no he tenidomas paz con el server. Lo tengo perfectamente al dia con los ultimos updates de RedHat y la version del mailman que esta incluida en el Fedora mailman-1.2.4-4 compilado el srpm para RedHatAS3, tengo un total de 1300 usuarios mas o menos. El problema radica en que el server se me queda colgado, los demonios comienzan a morir y el server se queda funcionando a nivel de Kernel, pues le quitas la tarjeta de Red y te notifica a traves de la consola, se la pones y hace lo mismo, ademas si ejecutas la direccion en que esta el webmin el servidor que tra el webmin te responde y te muestra la pagina de autenticacion lo que a la hora de autenticar si falla pues el demonio encargado de esto murio al igual que los demas, le haces telnet a los puertos y se conecta lo que queda en espera de la respuesta que debe dar el server (login_baner o algo asi). Hice un script que me deja en los log la carga del server en cada minuto y mirando esto me doy cuenta de que el mailman lo pone a full, el load average se pone hasta un 60% cuando por lo general esta cuando mas a un 4%. Me puse a mirar los log del mailman y al menos en las ultimas caidas, coincide con un mensaje enviado a las listas, pero lo mas curioso esta en que lo mismo ocurre cuando se manda a una lista grande que si se hace a una pequena, yo tengo listas anidadadas como por ejemplo todos-l@ceis, dentro de esta estan trabajadores-l y estudiantes-l, dentro de estudiantes-l se encuentra 1ro-l, 2do-l , 3ro-l, 4to-l, 5to-l, dentro de 1ro-l se encuentra if11-l, if12-l, etc, dentro de 1f11-l esta pepe, juan, jose, etc, la caida del server esta ocurriendo lo mismo cuando se manbda un correo a todos-l que si se hace a if11-l, es como si se conjugaran factores para que esto suceda.... espero que me puedan ayudar en algo y darme una orientacion... Nota: Ya he vambiado de hardware completo y haciendo pruebas hemos logrado tunbar el server mando correos a estas listas Saludos ************************************************* "Para ser exitoso no tienes que hacer cosas extraordinarias. Haz cosas ordinarias extraordinariamente bien" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos Antonio Gómez Brizuela. Administrador de la RED del CEIS Estudiante de Informática. cgomez_81(a)hotmail.com ICQ # 192486535 CUJAE. ************************************************* __________________________________________ Aniversario 40 de la CUJAE Visite: XII Convencion de Ingenieria y Arquitectura http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/convencion/

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Re: [Mailman-i18n] Activating Templates?
by Daniel Yacob 14 May '04

14 May '04

>> transcheck test. But archtoch.html still isn't loading. > What about other templates? Are they loading? nope, none of the translated templates load, I referenced archtoc.html just for an example. The permissions are identical to all others. Even stranger is that I've just tried moving "en" to "en.bak" and linking am to en. Restarted everthing, changed web browsers, and still no change! I went with the default installation options, is /usr/local/mailman/templates the right directory to be working in?? Or does mailman use another directory at run time? >> I'm working with UTF-8 and not adding a BOM to the start of files if that >> makes a difference. Also I am modifing the files in the install directory >> (/usr/local/mailman/templates). > I don't have experience with unicode translation. But the best way to > check your translation is to compare it with other which is working fine > (eg. Serbian and Ukrainian uses UTF-8) I checked Serbian, the BOM is present only sometimes. I did add it to some files and no change. >> I had assumed the 's' after %(listname) indicated a plural. > %(xxx)s is replaced by value of variable xxx, which should be treated as > character string. 's' at the end means String, and has nothig with > plural form. Ah... that makes more sense, thanks for the clarification. thanks again, /Daniel

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Re: [Mailman-i18n] Activating Templates?
by Daniel Yacob 13 May '04

13 May '04

Thank you, I wasn't aware of transcheck, I ran it and it pointed out and error in archtoc.html where it said there were "- Too few %(listname)s" I checked and I had a %(listname) only, adding the 's' it passed the transcheck test. But archtoch.html still isn't loading. I'm working with UTF-8 and not adding a BOM to the start of files if that makes a difference. Also I am modifing the files in the install directory (/usr/local/mailman/templates). I had assumed the 's' after %(listname) indicated a plural. If it is "%(listname)" only and not "%(listname)s" that gets substituted later this isn't an ideal way to handle pluralized words since the 's' would make sense only for a limited number of languages. Seperate %(listname) and %(listnames) messages could work more universally. thanks again, /Daniel

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Spanish Traduction
by Raúl Pintor Durán 13 May '04

13 May '04

Hello, I have installed Mailman and get it running well in a Debian Woody with Postfix. I'm trying to do the html site where the archives are reades in Spanish, but there are no options about that. I alse have noticed that I have not the command addlang, so I can't change the language. Can anybody help me? Any notices will be great, thanks

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Activating Templates?
by Daniel Yacob 13 May '04

13 May '04

Greetings, I've been working on an Amharic translation of Mailman. Following the README-I18N.en I updated the Defaults.py and the mailman.pot. I copied the english templates into a "templates/am" directory for later. This worked fine. Via web I would see the list interface with an english template and amharic words from the message catalog. A few weeks later I've updated the templates for amharic, but they are still coming out as english -!? I've restarted mailman and the web server, but to no avail. Is there some extra step needed to activate the templates? Clearing mailman cache or setting extra variables in a .py file?? thanks in advance, /Daniel

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Activating Templates?
by Daniel Yacob 11 May '04

11 May '04

Greetings, I've been working on an Amharic translation of Mailman. Following the README-I18N.en I updated the Defaults.py and the mailman.pot. I copied the english templates into a "templates/am" directory for later. This worked fine. Via web I would see list archives with an english template and amharic words from the message catalog. A few weeks later I've updated the templates for amharic, but they are still coming out as english -!? I've restarted mailman and the web server, but to no avail. Is there some extra step needed to activate the templates? Clearing mailman cache or setting extra variables in a .py file?? thanks in advance, /Daniel

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Encoding problem
by David Bourguignon 03 May '04

03 May '04

Hi all, I have a problem to register to mailing lists managed with gnu mailman. According to people on the mailman users list (verbatim): "The problem is that your MUA is encoding the message in 8-bit quoted-printable format. The "=?iso-8859-1?Q?" stuff at the beginning is the way that the MUA tells the receiver what the character set is (ISO 8859-1), and the encoding is quoted-printable. You need to turn off quoted-printable within your mail program, and use plain 7-bit ASCII. However, this is a question that is specific to your particular mail program, and you should start by talking to your ISP." I wonder if this problem is not also due to the mailman installation on the server, which has not switched on language support beyond the default (US English). I would be glad to have your opinion on this. Thanks in advance for your help. David. ******ADSL Tiscali, le Haut débit au meilleur prix ****** Avec Tiscali, profitez de l'ADSL au meilleur prix partout en France ! Pour profiter de cette offre exceptionnelle, cliquez ici : http://register.tiscali.fr/adsl Sous réserve d'éligibilité à l'ADSL.

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