I'm about to change the search order for templates -- you know, those pesky .html and .txt files that live in $prefix/templates and $prefix/lists/$mylist. This change is necessary to properly support language templates, and also provides a much requested feature, namely that you will only need to specialize templates that you actually want to change, and that you have multiple levels of specialization. Here's how it works. There are 4 levels of template specialization: list-centric, vhost-centric, site-centric, and default, corresponding to the directories $prefix/lists/$listname $prefix/templates/$host_name $prefix/templates/site $prefix/templates Each of these locations is further organized by language subdirectories. So let's say you were looking for the listinfo.html template for list foobar in language es. You'd actually end up searching 12 directories, with of course, the first hit stopping the search. Let's say further that list foobar is in the www.foobar.com virtual domain, and that it's list-preferred language is fr, while the server's default language is en. Here's the files you'd search for: $prefix/lists/foobar/es/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/www.foobar.com/es/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/site/es/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/es/listinfo.html $prefix/lists/foobar/fr/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/www.foobar.com/fr/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/site/fr/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/fr/listinfo.html $prefix/lists/foobar/en/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/www.foobar.com/en/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/site/en/listinfo.html $prefix/templates/en/listinfo.html Note that the Mailman 2.0.x search directories of $prefix/lists/*.{html,txt} and $prefix/templates/*.{html,txt} are deprecated and no longer searched. The bin/upgrade script will actually md5 checksum all the old files and remove any templates in more-specific locations that exactly match their more-general counterparts. Any template in $prefix/lists or $templates will have to be moved manually. It is highly discouraged that you will ever manually edit a file in $prefix/templates/$lang, and Mailman's install target will have every right to overwrite them on an upgrade. That's what the templates/site subdirectory is for; upgrading will never touch site-centric, domain-centric, or list-centric templates. Of course, that means it's up to site administrators to merge in changes to the default templates. Watch for checkins shortly. Comments? -Barry