Starting Vietnamese localization?
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Hello all :) Since I am continually frustrated by the lack of my language in Mailman, I'm willing to do the translation. However, I couldn't fine any instructions on how to get started on a new localization, on the Mailman site. I strongly support the idea of maintaining the Mailman translations through the Translation Project. I translate for quite a few projects, and the TP are the most effective translation project I've encountered. Meanwhile ... where do I start? :) Thankyou in advance for your help with this. :) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
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On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:46 +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote:
I strongly support the idea of maintaining the Mailman translations through the Translation Project. I translate for quite a few projects, and the TP are the most effective translation project I've encountered.
It's been "on my list" to get us moved over to Rosetta, but I just haven't had the time to follow through. :( For now, I think Tokio posted a link to instructions on how to start with translations, and you can just send new catalogs and templates to us and we'll get them into the source tree. -Barry
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On 28/02/2006, at 10:56 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:46 +1030, Clytie Siddall wrote:
I strongly support the idea of maintaining the Mailman translations through the Translation Project. I translate for quite a few projects, and the TP are the most effective translation project I've encountered.
It's been "on my list" to get us moved over to Rosetta, but I just haven't had the time to follow through. :(
If you want to use an online translation interface, I'd recommend Pootle over Rosetta. Pootle is free software. You can also use it to run your own server, online or offline. http://pootle.wordforge.org/ http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle
For now, I think Tokio posted a link to instructions on how to start with translations, and you can just send new catalogs and templates to us and we'll get them into the source tree.
I'd love to start, but the link Tokio posted led to this:
Have you read README-I18N.en in the distribution tar ball? The section entitled 'ADDING NEW TRANSLATIONS' should be followed before you designate language in mm_cfg.py (not Defaults.py).
I don't have the tarball. I run Mac OSX, and I don't have mailman on my system. Where can I find this howto online, please?
In short, you should have templates/iw/* and messages/iw/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.(po|mo) files although the translation may not be complete. You may have to edit Makefile(.in) if you do this in the source code directory.
I am simply a translator who wants to help. I do not have any coding skills, nor am I able now to acquire them, due to illness. I can edit .po files, I can submit them via email, CVS or SVN, and I can do simple edits in specific files like configure.in _iff_ I am told exactly what file, where to find it, and what to do. If I can get hold of the howto, plus the PO files, I can get started. Please tell me where I can do this. Thankyou. :) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
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On Mar 1, 2006, at 14:16, Clytie Siddall wrote:
Have you read README-I18N.en in the distribution tar ball? The section entitled 'ADDING NEW TRANSLATIONS' should be followed before you designate language in mm_cfg.py (not Defaults.py).
I don't have the tarball. I run Mac OSX, and I don't have mailman on my system. Where can I find this howto online, please?
I would recommend downloading the tarball, and keeping an expanded copy locally. It isn't that large, and you have all the tools necessary on your OS X box. Alternatively, you can use the CVS browser on SourceForge to visit the files. The README-I18N.en file is available here for example: <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/README-I18N.en? rev=2.12.2.5&only_with_tag=Release_2_1_7&view=auto>
If I can get hold of the howto, plus the PO files, I can get started. Please tell me where I can do this.
If you download and expand the tarball, you will have them. Or look here: <http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/messages/? only_with_tag=Release_2_1_7> -- Jim Tittsler http://www.OnJapan.net/ GPG: 0x01159DB6 Python Starship http://Starship.Python.net/crew/jwt/ Mailman IRC irc://irc.freenode.net/#mailman
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On 01/03/2006, at 5:50 PM, Jim Tittsler wrote:
I would recommend downloading the tarball, and keeping an expanded copy locally. It isn't that large, and you have all the tools necessary on your OS X box.
Alternatively, <snip>
Thanks, Jim, that was the information I needed. I'll try keeping a local copy, but unless I'm going to be working on it continually, I may not be able to afford the space. I translate for a lot of projects. Keeping a copy of every file translated takes a lot of space, let alone the whole module for each file. Beats me why, with huge hdds everywhere, I get a 30Gb in my iBook. ;) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
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Barry Warsaw
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Clytie Siddall
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Jim Tittsler