shawn, I still don't understand your problem. It seems we have difficulties to communicate, so please don't get annoyed by my lengthy questions.

--------------------------------------- This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Merakla beklenen bir se=E7im yasadik. Merakla beklenmesinin sebebi yeni y=FCzlerin olmasi ve muhtesem d=F6rtl=FC olarak tanimlanan malum = siyaset=E7i dedelerimizin bir kisminin siyaset sahnesinden tasfiye olmus olmalari ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------

Where does this text come from? Is that some you have entered yourself (if so, where?), is this a header or footer? Who has created the multipart/alternative attachment? Can you perhaps send us the original message, ideally in a uuencoded form?

This is the output i get in the pipermail archives, when i post a message, from outlook express with 8859-9 encoding, as you have mentioned , no problem in the return emails to an email client, such as outlook express, or etc.the encoding is OKAY, but , the header and footer don't show up

Which of the following two is the case: A: The header and footer do not appear in the message sent to each subscriber. B: The header and footer do not appear in the pipermail archives. If you have observed B, then this is correct behaviour: the header and footer is omitted from the pipermail archive on purpose.

, i think since the message, is in a different charset than us-ascii- the footer and header don't show up.i just get the message, i have sent to the list, NOTHING ELSE. the encoding , in the received email header shows as: Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

Again, I don't understand: First you say that you do not see the header. Then you say that the header is transmitted as multipart/alternative. Which of these is the case?

_f i send the message as plain text, it comes out- okay with the header and footer included. but you know than i can't show the _,_,_ etc.

I can't quote them right now (as elm does not support -9), but please have a look at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-i18n/2002-November/000708.html This message was correctly archived, as far as I can tell. Do you agree?

the header and footer are important for me, since i want to put some adserver tags, in text format.

Ok, it seems that your problem is somehow with the header and footer. Can you please post the text that you want to use as the header and footer? Don't hesitate to have this encoded as plain text in iso-8859-9: some of our mail readers will support this well, as will the archive.

ARCHIVES:

in the archives - as you can see above, it shows quoted,and funky characters ,when the message is in mime format. when it is sent in plain text, it comes out okay.

Unfortunately, I cannot see this from above. Are you saying you have copied this text from a archive web page?

1- how to show the header and footer ,in outlook ? when sending with 8859-9 mime from outlook?,when in non -digest mode

Can you please send a message that you consider "8859-9" to this list? It seems to me that this message (i.e. the one I'm responding to) was a MIME message, and it was encoded as iso-8859-9. So you must be talking about something else.

2- how to make it look formatted-presentable in the pipermail archives?when sending with mime 8859-9.

AFAICT, this works fine: no additional configuration needed.

1-should i try to put [iso-8859-9] in the mm-cfg.py to change defaults?

I don't think you should change anything. First, we need to understand what you do before we can tell you what to change. Regards, Martin