Mailman 3 November 1998 - Mailman-Users

Archive Issues
by George Reese 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

I have definitely found that the problems I was having come from incompatibilities between 0.95 archiving and 1.0b6 archiving. Archiving does have the following issues howver: * there is no default archive page associated with a new list--no archive is created until the first email is sent to the list * i have not found a meaningful way to upgrade existing archives--i had to do a lot of manual stuff to make my current archives even available -- George Reese (borg(a)imaginary.com) http://www.imaginary.com/~borg PGP Key: http://www.imaginary.com/servlet/Finger?user=borg&verbose=yes "Keep Ted Turner and his goddamned Crayolas away from my movie." -Orson Welles

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archives
by Michael Ghens 16 Nov '98

16 Nov '98

I was looking through the achives. This may be a bug. </i> Apache does not recoginize this. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Ghens Small Planet Connections Internet: michael(a)spconnect.com Santa Barbara, CA http://www.spconnect.com/~michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unix is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:57:24 -0500 (EST) > From: Barry A. Warsaw <bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us> > To: Darren Henderson <darren(a)jasper.somtel.com> > Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 1.0b6 private archives, a typo, etc > > > >>>>> "DH" == Darren Henderson <darren(a)jasper.somtel.com> writes: > > DH> The package still fails to compile under freebsd unless gmake > DH> is used. > > Unfortunately, we only have Solaris and Linux here to test on, so if > you could give more details (and patches? :-) I'd really appreciate > it. I just fixed a problem with the top level Makefile, so you should > try to do a CVS update and ./config.status to regenerate the Makefile. > > AFAICT, our Makefiles should be compatible with both stock Solaris 2.6 > make (/usr/ccs/bin/make) and GNU make 3.76.1. > > DH> There is a typo on the general list page, under Using > DH> MAILLIST... "You can post a message to the all the list > DH> members..." > > DH> I'm relatively new to mailman (and python) but out of > DH> curiosity... is there a reason to have _all_ the > DH> subdirectories under mailman sgid? Its probably valid just at > DH> first glance it seems a bit excesive. > > Setgid on the directories means that any files created in those > directories will inherit the group ownership, presumably `mailman'. > This is critical for the directories that Mailman writes files into, > but it's very convenient for the other directories as well (since > we're creating new files in there occasionally). > > -Barry > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >

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Subscribe users from command line?
by Peter Gervai 15 Nov '98

15 Nov '98

Hello, Is it possible to add email addresses to a list's subscriber base from command line (from a shell script)? I had a script 'echo email@addr >> ~majordomo/lists/mylist' but mailman uses databases, so it should be done calling python routines, somehow... Thanks, Peter ps: btw isn't it possible to see list archieves older than one month..? I tried to look this info up but only last month's archieves were available.

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admin requests on the lists
by Gergely Madarasz 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Hello! I've upgraded to 1.0b6 and it seems that the admin request filtering doesn't work. For example unsubscribe messages to the list don't get caught. Any ideas ? -- Madarasz Gergely gorgo(a)caesar.elte.hu gorgo(a)linux.rulez.org It's practically impossible to look at a penguin and feel angry. Egy pingvinre gyakorlatilag lehetetlen haragosan nezni. HuLUG: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/

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biggest practical mailman list?
by John Harkin 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

I'm using Mailman now for a small mailing list, less than 1000 addresses so far. A friend of mine needs to move a large list, over 32K addresses, to something new. I've been talking up Mailman, but began to wonder if there are scale issues with Mailman. Has anyone run a list that big? Does the database bog down loading a huge flat file for every request? Are there integer size limitations? My friend's current mailing list's editor broke with more than 2^15 addresses! John -- John Harkin Internet Network and Systems Consulting jh(a)harkin.net voice: 415-472-2452 fax: 415-472-2454

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission denied to archives dir with apache
by John Lewis 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

At 03:06 PM 11/11/98 -0500, Corbett J. Klempay wrote: >Hmm...looks right to me, and matches with how mine are set up now. Also, >in your srm.conf file (you said you had it modified), do you have a > >Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public/ > >Note, there should _not_ be a ScriptAlias line involving pipermail. (I >forget if that's how the documentation is worded or what, but for a while >I had both, and Scott said there should only be 1, and it should be the >Alias) Yes, only the alias entry. I believe Scott, in his infinite wisdom and patience, is looking into it now. I will keep you all posted. -JL

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Re: [Mailman-Users] permission denied to archives dir with apache
by John Lewis 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

At 02:44 PM 11/11/98 -0500, Corbett J. Klempay wrote: >Yes, I had a pretty much identical problem (RH 5.1 machine). What does an >ls -l look like in your /home/mailman/archives/private/ dir look like? >Scott (scott(a)chronis.pobox.com) logged onto my system and found that a >bunch of the symlinks were all crackheaded..some pointed to the right >place, and others didn't. After he fixed this, (and I used the arch script >to import my accumulated list archives) all has been fine and dandy. Here is what I get for the /home/mailman/archives/public directory: [jlewis@hadron public]$ ls -l total 0 rwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 39 Nov 10 17:36 testlist -> /home/mailman/archives/private/testlist lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 44 Nov 10 17:36 testlist.mbox -> /home/mailman/archives/private/testlist.mbox Which looks right. Is it though? I installed mailman as root. -JL

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permission denied to archives dir with apache
by John Lewis 11 Nov '98

11 Nov '98

Firstly, I just installed Mailman 1.0b6 on my RedHat 5.2 box, and I am VERY impressed. The directions were excellent, everything happened as it should, and all is working as it should (except for my one problem). The developers should be proud of what you have done. A million thanks to all your hard work to make this happen. My problem is that when I try to access the archives directory from a browser, I get the following: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /pipermail/testlist on this server. I am running Apache 1.3.1, and have added the appropriate alias entry in srm.conf for pipermail Everything else is running great, so perhaps there is a simple access issue, or line to add to some config file that would allow access to the archives/public directory? Thanks. John Lewis

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Re: [Mailman-Users] User management bug?
by Peter Bowyer 09 Nov '98

09 Nov '98

-----Original Message----- From: Scott <scott(a)chronis.pobox.com> To: Farul Ghazali <farul(a)bigfoot.com> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org <mailman-users(a)python.org> Date: 09 November 1998 22:54 Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] User management bug? >On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 03:39:59PM -0500, Farul Ghazali wrote: >| >what web server/python version are you using? >| >| I'm using Apache 1.3.0 with Python 1.5.1 >| >| >when you click on a chunk, does it append "?chunk=2" or something like >| >that to the url? >| >| Yes it does (as it always did) but it reloads only the first page. I've >| tried this on multiple versions of Netscape 4 on my Mac as well as on the >| Solaris box that runs the mailing list. >| >| I don't remember when this actually happened, but if I were to guess I >| would say that it was after I upgraded from 1.0b4 to 1.0b6. >| >| Much thanks. >| >| .farul > > >This is strange. If you enter the full url in the browser (with the >?chunk= appended), then go to it, it works, but if you click on the >url, the extra query string doesn't get passed in for some reason. > >I've not seen this behavior before. Does anyone know what might be >stripping the query string from a link in apache 1.3.0? I know that >older apache's didn't pass query strings when Redirect'ing from one >location to another, but it appears that this now works in apache. > >Is there anything that may to point to this in the web server's >configuration? > Have you checked the webserver logs to make sure the correct URL is being requested? In entirely different circumstances, I've seen a browser cache cause simliar problems to this - it wouldn't properly reload a CGI page. Peter

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User management bug?
by Farul Ghazali 09 Nov '98

09 Nov '98

Here's a possible bug I found, on a list that has lots of users, the Membership Management web page doesn't list everyone at once, but choses to list chunks at a time. The problem is, I can only see the first chunk, clicking on the next one (or any other one) will only bring me to the first chunk. Adding new users aren't affected (both web page or command line) but changing user options definitely is since I can't see the options for the users that come later in the list.

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