Mailman 3 January 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] exim
by Harald Meland 28 Jan '99

28 Jan '99

[Brad Crittenden] > i've followed the threads on qmail and exim but i'm a bit confused. > it seems that mailman does not yet support qmail but may soon. If I interpreted Balazs correctly, the only "problem" with Qmail was that Mailman-generated mail (i.e. subscription confirmations, password reminders etc., but _not_ normal sent-to-a-list mail) doesn't have Date: or Message-ID: headers. I believe most sendmail equivalents insert these headers when they're missing, but apparently Qmail does not. Thus, if there is a some sendmail equivalent between some user and Mailman running on Qmail, that user will get mail with these headers. > does it actually work with exim? Yes. This is the Mailman-relevant parts of my Exim configuration: # Transport mailman_list_pipe: driver = pipe allow_commands = /local/Mailman/mail/wrapper user = mailman return_fail_output # Director mailman_lists: driver = aliasfile search_type = lsearch file = /local/Mailman/data/MTA_aliases pipe_transport = mailman_list_pipe (Whee, I just _love_ not having to clutter with sendmail.cf anymore :) > we're using sendmail and need to either upgrade to 8.9 or change > MTA's. Exim is designed to be a sendmail drop-in replacement -- very nearly all the sendmail command-line options work in the same way when given to Exim. Another *big* plus (in my eyes, anyway) with Exim is that the author is extremely helpful, and on a daily basis shares his wisdom with the rest of the <exim-users(a)exim.org> mailing list (which I'm sad to say isn't a Mailman list ;). [ I had a look at qmail some months ago, and as soon as I realized that you need to define a bunch of different qmail users on any box where you might want to pipe something into /usr/lib/sendmail (due to it's compartmentalized model of execution), I realized it wasn't really my piece of cake. Postfix looks good, but isn't mature enough yet, IMHO. ] -- Harald

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Header on digests..
by Harald Meland 28 Jan '99

28 Jan '99

[Sanjay Parekh] > I've now hacked up all the templates to remove any reference to web sties > (I server external mailing lists via an internal (not on the Internet) > server). But I'm still getting this bit of header: > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > > in digests. I hacked up masthead.txt and thought that would fix it. > Anyone know where this piece of text is hiding so I can erradicate it? $ find . -type f | xargs grep 'To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit' ./Mailman/Digester.py:To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit ./Mailman/Digester.pyc:To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit ... so changing Mailman/Digester.py would be a good bet, I guess :) -- Harald

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exim
by Brad Crittenden 28 Jan '99

28 Jan '99

hello: i've followed the threads on qmail and exim but i'm a bit confused. it seems that mailman does not yet support qmail but may soon. does it actually work with exim? we're using sendmail and need to either upgrade to 8.9 or change MTA's. thanks, bac

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Header on digests..
by Sanjay Parekh 28 Jan '99

28 Jan '99

I've now hacked up all the templates to remove any reference to web sties (I server external mailing lists via an internal (not on the Internet) server). But I'm still getting this bit of header: To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit in digests. I hacked up masthead.txt and thought that would fix it. Anyone know where this piece of text is hiding so I can erradicate it? Sanjay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Sanjay Parekh | | sanjay.parekh(a)arris-i.com | | Systems Engineer - Cornerstone | | Arris Interactive | | Atlanta, GA | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PGP Key ID: 0xE1FD2FBA PGP Fingerprint: 547F 95C0 9E32 E936 D51F 6CA7 EB14 A33A E1FD 2FBA

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail compatibility
by J C Lawrence 28 Jan '99

28 Jan '99

On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:09:02 -0500 (EST) Barry A Warsaw<bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us> wrote: > BTW, how do y'all like qmail? I've been experiencing a really > pesky sendmail problem that I just can't fix -- for all the time > I've thrashed on sendmail too :-( I'm thinking of looking at > swapping my MTA. I have few opinions on QMail other than negative reactions to its author. I like and actively use Exim (http://www.exim.org/) which I find close to ideal for a general MTA. Postfix is where I intend to head, especially for larger mail systems, but its not quite up to where I need to be yet. Look into Exim -- Good Stuff. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu (Contractor) Internet: coder(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Internet: claw(a)under.engr.sgi.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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cannot get mailman working
by J. Michael Barasch 28 Jan '99

28 Jan '99

I am looking to create a mailing list for a local organization that I am in. I downloaded the latest version of mailman and version 1.5.1 of python. I installed python and now all the files that come with mailman are recognized as python files. However, whenever I try to click on a mailman file, python opens but then almost immediately has a fatal error. Would someone please help me figure out how to get past this point? Thank you all. J. Michael Barasch University of Southern California

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Qmail compatibility
by Doug Lumpkin 27 Jan '99

27 Jan '99

Is mailman compatible with qmail? Do I need to make any adjustments? -- Doug Lumpkin dougel(a)pacinfo.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML messages
by J C Lawrence 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:42:49 -0500 Christopher G Petrilli<petrilli(a)amber.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 06:29:56PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote: >> My interest here (I haven't got to poking at mailman in these >> areas yet): >> >> -- Rigorously correct MIME digest support (along with the ability >> to nut support RFC 1503 digests and to force a bogus Reply-To on >> digests to help force people to burst them before replying). > I agree here, we should pursue absolute standards adheerance > wherever possible (assuming there is a standard :-). Having written MIME digest support (C code) for my own list server, it *really* isn't all that difficult. Its just recursive -- you need to ensure that the content separator strings don't collide, which can get (and rarely to never does) to be a bit of a mess of rewrites with multiple levels of multi-parts. >> -- MIME type stripping. eg stripping vcards and other specific >> MIME types on inbound mails and then checking the resulting >> message for actual data content (MIME part with non-zero data >> content). > This fits in with the idea I've been toying with, which is a > generic "incoming filter" which provides the ability to plug-in > filters, such as what you mention... Exactly. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu (Contractor) Internet: coder(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Internet: claw(a)under.engr.sgi.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML messages
by J C Lawrence 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:48:37 +0100 Tomas Fasth<tomas(a)euronetics.se> wrote: > I'm sorry, I hereby redraw that statement. Somehow I mixed things > up in my head. A more correct assertion would be: > "MIME enhanced messaging is a requirement in many places these > days" Many places ==> Where the alphabet consists of non-ascii > characters. Add places which do calender synchronisation via formatted email, corporate computing standards which pay homage to MS (not an issue here at SGI), and so forth. > I can only agree with you. Never the less, the problem is mounting > as the installed base of Netscape Communicator, Outlook Express > and alikes increase and as they usually have text/html as the > default setting. My interest here (I haven't got to poking at mailman in these areas yet): -- Rigorously correct MIME digest support (along with the ability to nut support RFC 1503 digests and to force a bogus Reply-To on digests to help force people to burst them before replying). -- MIME type stripping. eg stripping vcards and other specific MIME types on inbound mails and then checking the resulting message for actual data content (MIME part with non-zero data content). -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu (Contractor) Internet: coder(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Internet: claw(a)under.engr.sgi.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments in general
by J C Lawrence 25 Jan '99

25 Jan '99

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:08:37 -0500 Brad Crittenden<bac(a)ivc.com> wrote: > i remember reading at one time that having the html archiver > handle attachments was on the to-do list. i just wanted to add a > contrary voice to say some of us would use such a feature for our > private, internal mailing lists. MHonArc handles this very well. I'd rather see the attention spent profitably elsewhere. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw(a)kanga.nu (Contractor) Internet: coder(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Internet: claw(a)under.engr.sgi.com ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith...

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