Mailman 3 January 1999 - Mailman-Users

Comments
by Jonathan Bradshaw 08 Jan '99

08 Jan '99

After looking at mailman to manage my mailing lists I have decided it will work for most things very well. I have some comments tho. Digests: I'd like to be able to set the next issue and volume number from the admin page. I know you can do this from inside python (and thats what I did) but it would be good to allow this to be changed elsewhere. Archiving: Although I'm sure pipermail is nice, MHonArc is nicer (IMHO) and it would be nice to be able to configure a seperate archiving program through the admin tool. You would need to set the command to run (which would have the message on STDIN) and the location of the output archive. The primary advantage to MHonArc is configurability of the output format and the ability to handle various MIME types in a reasonable way. Of course, it is slow :-( Chained Lists: I have some sub-lists that I don't want people to be able to subscribe to unless they also subscribe to the master list. Eg: If they unsubscribe from the master list, it should remove them from the other lists. Any ideas? Thanks! -- Jonathan Bradshaw (Jonathan(a)NrgUp.Com) | Novell 4.x CNE | Ham Callsign N9OXE "...I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter." -- Nick Petreley

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Cannot get CGI-BIN to work
by Shaun Clowes 08 Jan '99

08 Jan '99

Hi, I can't get any of the python scripts to do anything (either the C wrappered ones or the non wrappered ones). If I go to /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin (my PREFIX is /usr/local/mailman/) and type "admin" I get no output at all, is this normal? [mailman@heyho cgi-bin]$ ./admin [mailman@heyho cgi-bin]$ The apache error log says "[Fri Jan 8 11:11:24 1999] [error] [client 203.2.125.3] Premature end of script headers: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo". Does this indicate my python is incorrectly built? (the test suite for python seems to work ok). Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Shaun

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Problem with 1.0b6
by Mike Kennedy 07 Jan '99

07 Jan '99

When I try to access the cgi scripts to look up infomation on the 'test' list it gives me an internal server error and I get this in the error log of the server: [Wed Jan 6 17:01:11 1999] access to /opt/mailman/cgi-bin/admin failed for shoebox.ucr.edu, reason: Premature end of script headers Do the cgi-scripts need to be gid owned by the www server? Help please... thanks. Mike :===========================================================: : Mike Kennedy mkennedy(a)cs.ucr.edu : : Systems Administrator (909) 787-2946 : : Computer Science Department : : University of California, Riverside : :===========================================================:

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Errors running news gateway
by Jonathan Bradshaw 07 Jan '99

07 Jan '99

I have cron run the news gateway every half hour. Every so often during the day I see the following: Exception NotLockedError in <method FileLock.__del__ of FileLock instance at +8181510> ignored OR Exception exceptions.OSError: (2, 'No such file or directory', +'/var/mailman/locks/gate_lock.rmadg.Garbo.17482') in <method FileLock.__del__ +of FileLock instance at 8181390> ignored OR Exception exceptions.ValueError: 'unpack list of wrong size' in <method +FileLock.__del__ of FileLock instance at 80dddc0> ignored Should I be concerned about them? It appears to be working correctly.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] internal server error not covered in readme
by deadgrrrl 07 Jan '99

07 Jan '99

--original message-- This is getting to be a FAQ -- see, for instance, <URL:http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/1999-January/000249.html>. for the solution. And you really should take the time to _read_ the INSTALL file :) --end of original message-- for the record, I read both the INSTALL and README files, neither mentioned anyting about this problem.. also, I forgot to mention, it's version 1.0b7 that I am running... but thanks for your prompt reply :P

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internal server error not covered in readme
by deadgrrrl 07 Jan '99

07 Jan '99

first off... I'm running RedHat 5.2 linux 2.0.36. Sendmail version 8.8.7 Apache 1.3.3 python 1.5.1 sed 3.02 perl 5.005_02 -- here is the problem I get. when going to http://servername.com/lists/admin/testing I get the following error... Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, webmaster(a)servername.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. Premature end of script headers: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin also.. when running perl ./admin from the /home/mailman/cgi-bin directory.. I get the following... 4:44pm root@servername [/home/mailman/cgi-bin]# perl ./admin Unrecognized character \177 at ./admin line 1. now.. I've run into similar problems before.. but they were usually caused by script being written in notepad by my users and then expected to work properly under unix. it's usually fixed by converting the script text format from dos to unix. however, since this looks like compiled perl, I can't very well do that :) thanks in advance for your time.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] internal server error not covered in readme
by Harald Meland 07 Jan '99

07 Jan '99

[deadgrrrl] > Premature end of script headers: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin This is getting to be a FAQ -- see, for instance, <URL:http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/1999-January/000249.html>. for the solution. And you really should take the time to _read_ the INSTALL file :) > also.. > when running perl ./admin from the /home/mailman/cgi-bin directory.. I get the following... > > 4:44pm root@servername [/home/mailman/cgi-bin]# perl ./admin > Unrecognized character \177 at ./admin line 1. Well, as cgi-bin/admin isn't a perl script (in fact there are _no_ perl scripts in Mailman) but a compiled C program, you probably would be a tad better off running just $ /home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin ... but it most likely won't _do_ anything (except for exit()ing with a non-zero value). > however, since this looks like compiled perl, Perl, as far as I know, isn't able to "compile" scripts permanently -- any perl script is "compiled" at invocation before the actual execution of the script. And "compiled" is nothing like _real_ compilation -- it is more reminiscent to the byte-compiling that exist for e.g. Python and Emacs Lisp (I've heard). -- Harald

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Sequence numbers
by Francis Cook 06 Jan '99

06 Jan '99

Hi, I was wondering if there was a way of putting a sequence number on the subject line of the list messages. The system we have been using is that every mail message gets a sequence number put in the header or subject line so we can refer to it easily eg: [maillist msg: 1] [maillist msg: 2] etc... How would I go about doing this in Mailman ? I have found some attributes in HyperArch called msgid and sequence, would these do it, if put in the subject line like: maillist %(msgid)s Any help would be appreciated. Francis -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis Cook email: francisc(a)cs.man.ac.uk Research Associate - MINT group francis(a)man.compsoc.org.uk Computer Science, Manchester University Phone +44(0)161 275 6270 (CompSoc Secretary) web: www.man.compsoc.org.uk/~francis --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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MailMan configuration problem
by Andy Harrison 06 Jan '99

06 Jan '99

I just installed MailMan 1.0b6. I follow the instructions very carefully and they're quite clear. However, when it actually comes to accessing the list that I create via web browser, http://mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo/testlist, it fails: /var/log/httpd/error_log: [Tue Jan 5 14:28:32 1999] access to /home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo failed \ for my.ip.addr.here, reason: Premature end of script headers Anyone else encountered this? Red Hat 5.1, Apache 1.2.6. Oh, and I added the necessary info to srm.conf, as well as adding to the access.conf the following, which didn't change anything after I restarted httpd: <Directory /home/mailman/cgi-bin> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI </Directory> --------------------------------- E-Mail: Andy Harrison <andy(a)nachoz.com> Date: 05-Jan-99 Time: 14:50:24 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------

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Archive editing
by Nathan Messer 05 Jan '99

05 Jan '99

Is there any way for messages in the archives to be removed, either through the web interface, or by hand from the archives? I'm interested in doing this in order to be able removed auto-generated error messages and the like from a list archive.

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