Mailman 3 November 1999 - Mailman-Users

Oh-Oh -- problem with admin
by Pete Holsberg 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

In attempting to access http://saturn.mccc.edu/mailman/admin/et124 I get the following: Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main main() File "../Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 121, in main text = Utils.maketext( File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 701, in maketext fp = open(file) IOError: (2, 'No such file or directory') ???? Thanks, Pete

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Re: [Mailman-Users] editing the html
by Michael Sweeney 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

Depends on what modifications you want to make. The basic template files are in the MAILMAN-DIR/templates directory if you want to change the interface pages for all new lists. You can edit them and use the <MM-variable-name> tags that will keep the essential mailman functionality. For existing lists, or changes specific to a particular list, you can use the "Edit the HTML for the public list pages" link from the admin pages. If you are wanting to change the content and/or formatting of what is expanded from the <MM-...> tags, you have to get into the Python source code. Depending on which tag you want to change, you have to look through the source to find the specific tag. But remember that if you change the sources, the changes are likely to be lost on upgrade or re-installation. Michael At 02:58 PM 11/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Barry A. Warsaw wrote: > >OM# >>>>> "M" == MCS <efficacy(a)mediaone.net> writes: >OM# >OM# M> Hi all, How are the html tags <MM-List_name> and other tag >OM# M> variables resolved by my web browers. I want to play with the >OM# M> web page so as to modify these tags. Where are they defined? >OM# >OM# Those are not resolved by your browser, but instead are substituted >OM# by the Mailman system. > >I guess that reply will not do any good to MCS. I also would like to know >how to modify mailman to fit my interface. Whereto go to change the >HTML code? Help, anyone? > >Cheers, > > >,----------------------------------.,-----------------------------------. >| David Collantes || email: david(a)bus.ucf.edu | >| Senior Systems Administrator, || phone: (407) 823-3418 | >| Network Operations Manager || UCFBusiness - UCF, Orlando, FL | >`----------------------------------'`-----------------------------------' > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cookies
by claw＠kanga.nu 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:08:48 -0500 John A Martin <jam(a)jamux.com> wrote: >>>>>> "claw2" == claw "Re: [Mailman-Users] Cookies " Sun, 28 Nov >>>>>> 1999 22:11:34 -0800 claw2> Never install the various stanzas in your web server configs. > Er.. Throw away the baby with the bath water? Yup. They two are married at this point. > Unless I miss something cookies seem not to be involved for the > ordinary subscriber, right? No. Cookies are not involved for just subscribing to a list, but they are involved for browsing the archives, changing subscription configurations (NOMAIL, digest, etc) and such. If your users will never wish to change their subscriptions from their default values, and you use an external archiver, yes, your users should be able to remain cookie free. > A list owner/admin can refuse cookies and operate by giving his > password at every turn. My only experience here is that this didn't work (the changes made without cookies weren't made). Try it and see. It may have changed sice I last tested this a a year ago. > It also appears that the cookies that are offered expire quickly, > 3 hours IIRC. Yup. > It would be nice of course to tidy things up to make it better for > the cookie hating site. It would seem a pity for mailman to be > fully dependent upon something as controversial as cookies. I would prefer to argue that a life (or a project development) spent in avoidance of controversy is wasted. Cookies are not inherently evil. They can be abused and used for unpleasant purposes but that is not a fault of the technique itself but of its application. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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editing the html
by MCS 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

Hi all, How are the html tags <MM-List_name> and other tag variables resolved by my web browers. I want to play with the web page so as to modify these tags. Where are they defined? Michael

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UPDATEDQ EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER question
by Allen Bolderoff 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

it seems that the documented ${listname} does not work, this is what is causing the mhonarc archive creation to fail. what is the actual macro that I use to expand the actual list name within the PUBLIC_EXTERNAL_ARCHIVER option? -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Allen Bolderoff <allen(a)gist.net.au> LNC - Redhat and Linux, help and commentary http://linux.netnerve.com CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Problems with 1.1
by Pete Holsberg 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

I've remade python and mailman 1.1. I've done the smrsh link. I've checked permissions. I can access the web interface but I can't send mail to a list. I get: The original message was received at Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:42:24 -0500 from localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner et124" (expanded from: et124-admin) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner et124"... unknown mailer error 2 and The original message was received at Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:42:24 -0500 from tecoma.mccc.edu [198.133.170.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post et124" (expanded from: <et124(a)saturn.mccc.edu>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post et124"... unknown mailer error 2 Help! Please! Thanks, pete

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Mucho Errors!!!
by Pete Holsberg 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

Ohoh! All commands in $prefix/bin give the same error messaage: (pjh) saturn:/home/mailman/bin> ./check_perms File "./check_perms", line 13 import sys ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax (pjh) saturn:/home/mailman/bin> ./check_perms -f File "./check_perms", line 13 import sys ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax (pjh) saturn:/home/mailman/bin> ./version File "./version", line 22 import paths ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax What now? Thanks, Pete

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Q: External Archiver HOWTO
by Brad Crittenden 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

all: i hope this doesn't sound excessively lazy, but i'm wondering if anyone has produced a HOWTO document providing cookbook steps for setting up mailman to use an external archiver like mhonarc? i've been running mailman for a while and it is great. i want to convert to an external archiver but i don't have the cycles right now to do a lot of investigation or tweaking. thanks for any help you can provide, brad

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Error updating in 1.1
by Pete Holsberg 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

When I do "make update", I get this message: (pjh) saturn:/root/mailman/mailman-1.1> make update File "bin/update", line 8 import sys, os, string ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax What does that mean? What do I do to correct it? Thanks, Pete

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German Templates
by Jan Ulrich Hasecke 29 Nov '99

29 Nov '99

Are there German Templates for Mailman? Ciao! juh -- juh's Sudelbuch Best of 1999: Was gefiel, was missfiel den Lesern 1999? http://www.sudelbuch.de/best1999/index.html

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Mailman-Users November 1999