Mailman 3 December 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Exim/Mailman Alias problem ?
by claw＠kanga.nu 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:52:35 +0000 Kirth <kirth(a)hole.org> wrote: > test-request(a)i-docs.net: Child process of list_request_transport > transport returned 2 from command: > /home/staff/mailman/mail/wrapper I'm not familar with wrapper's RCs. Barry? -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sending message
by claw＠kanga.nu 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:56:12 -0700 Kory Wheatley <wheakory(a)isu.edu> wrote: > Why does mailman queue a message that's undeliverable and try to > send it again later on in the Cron run_queue process. Mailman has no particular way of determining that a message is undeliverable outside of the very small case where the local MTA refuses it prior to receipt for having a malformed address or similar. > Why doesn't it just send the message and if the user doesn't exist > or is undeliverable not send it again later on just delete it. The pattern is: MailMan sends the message. An MTA (somewhere) responds with a DSN. MailMan attempts to parse and handle the DSN. MailMan can't have advance intelligence here. Additionally it can't assume that a message that didn't make it thru last time, won't make it thru this time. > I have configured the web interface for it to disable or delete a > user who I know is over is quota, because I get the bounce message > back and it doesn't work. MailMan dos not instantly unsubscribe bad addresses, but rather waits for a consistent pattern to emerge for an address which it then reacts to. This prevents MailMan from reacting to temporary conditions such as a broken router, screwed remote mail system, or other temporary failure. > Minimum number of days an Address has been non-fatally bad before > we take action 0 Minimum number of posts to the list since members > first bounce before we consider removing 3 Action when critical or > excessive bounces are detected Remove and notify me It could also be that MailMan does not correctly handle the bounce format for your MTA. I don't know as I don't use sendmail. Barry? -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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scripts/answer_majordomo_mail
by Pioppo 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

Hi, I'm migrating from majordomo. I tried to setup the $prefix/scripts/answer_majordomo_mail tool but with no success. Can anyone tell me what I have to do? Thanks in advance. Simone -- Simone Piunno, http://pioppo.cjb.net, simone(a)piunno.com Ferrara Linux Users Group --> http://ferrara.linux.it ICQ UIN: 6914669 pioppo@IRCnet on #ferrara, #linux-it GnuPG/PGP5 fp: 9C15 F0D3 E309 3593 AC95 2C92 A0CD 52B4 8603 14FC

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Re: [Mailman-Users] aliases file does not be changed ???
by claw＠kanga.nu 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:31:13 -0600 (CST) Jerry Adlersfluegel <jerrya(a)jerrya.fastrans.net> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 claw(a)kanga.nu wrote: ... >> In fact, there's an Exim stanza wandering about right now done by >> Nick Moffit that avoids the need entirely for an alias file for >> MailMan, but rather has Exim observe the presence of a >> ~mailman/lists/<listname>/config.db file and therefor determine >> that the list exists and all the addresses it needs. Quite a >> cute job really. No alias file to update, but idential >> operation. > Now, that sounds slick. Any chance you'd have a pointer to it? It was posted to Crackmonkey by Nick Moffit a couple months back. Unfortunately Zork.Net appears to be down and the disk that has my archives of that traffic is currently being held by a previous client. As soon as I find it I'll post it. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Exim/Mailman Alias problem ?
by claw＠kanga.nu 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:17:16 +0000 Kirth <kirth(a)hole.org> wrote: > Ok, well sorry about that I fixed it *grin* working on the next > problem now 1999-12-03 02:15:56 rejected MAIL FROM: unknown > local-part in sender <mailman-owner(a)mail.i-docs.org> H=localhost > (ns0.hole.org) [127.0.0.1] (mailman) My same questions stand. Exim needs to know what domains it has to accept delivery for in the local_domains line in exim.conf. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Exim/Mailman Alias problem ?
by Kirth 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

Hi, I followed the install doc, and the details on www.exim.org/howto/mailman.html but I have hit a problem. I think exim is ignoring /etc/aliases becuase every time I try to add a list I get this in exim_reject log ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1999-12-03 01:50:09 rejected MAIL FROM: temporarily unable to verify sender address (try again later) <mailman-owner(a)mail.i-docs.org> H=localhost (ns0.hole.org) [127.0.0.1] (mailman) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ now I dont know if the problem stems from I want mailman running on mail.i-docs.org rather than ns0.hole.org ... or If im just being stupid in /etc/aliases I have mailman: kirth(a)i-docs.org mailman-owner: mailman Help would be greatfully appreciated as it's starting to really annoy me *grin* Regards Richard kirth(a)hole.org / kirth(a)i-docs.org http://black.hole.org http://i-docs.org

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Exim/Mailman Alias problem ?
by claw＠kanga.nu 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:57:29 +0000 Kirth <kirth(a)hole.org> wrote: > Hi, I followed the install doc, and the details on > www.exim.org/howto/mailman.html but I have hit a problem. I think > exim is ignoring /etc/aliases becuase every time I try to add a > list I get this in exim_reject log Do you have mail.i-docs.org listed in exim.conf under primary_hostname or local_domains? > in /etc/aliases I have mailman: kirth(a)i-docs.org mailman-owner: > mailman I use the following stanzas under Exim for MailMan: Transport: mailman_list_pipe: driver = pipe allow_commands = /var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper user = list group = mail return_fail_output Director: mailman_lists: driver = aliasfile search_type = lsearch file = /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases pipe_transport = mailman_list_pipe modemask = 111 (Note that this is built atopt Debian's default install, and so uses the "list" UID rather than "mailman", tho ~list == /var/lib/mailman. This allows me to keep all the list aliases under ~list/data/aliases (and under RCS), rather than muddled into the general /etc/aliases. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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aliases file does not be changed ???
by Kim JungSu 03 Dec '99

03 Dec '99

Hello, I am a Kim Jung Su. I installed mailman-1.1. but I can not start it. After I perform 'newlist' command, aliases file does not changed. So, when new list member "REPLY" mail to mailling list folling error message appear. "<<< 550 <test-request(a)piano.korea.ac.kr>... User unknown" How can I solve it ? Please help me . ------ ^.^ with best regards ^.^ ------ Kim Jung Su ============================================== JungSu Kim Control Systems Lab. Department of Electrical Eng., Graduate School, Korea University 1, 5-ka, Anam-dong, Sungbuk-ku, Seoul 136-701, Korea Tel)+82-2-3290-3687 Fax) +82-2-928-8909 http://cello.korea.ac.kr/~bldl mailto:bldl@classic.korea.ac.kr

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sending message
by Kory Wheatley 02 Dec '99

02 Dec '99

Why does mailman queue a message that's undeliverable and try to send it again later on in the Cron run_queue process. Why doesn't it just send the message and if the user doesn't exist or is undeliverable not send it again later on just delete it. I can see why it would queue messages, because the server host is down, but not a message that is undeliverable. Does the Bounce options work with Sendmail 8.8. I have configured the web interface for it to disable or delete a user who I know is over is quota, because I get the bounce message back and it doesn't work. My settings are Minimum number of days an Address has been non-fatally bad before we take action 0 Minimum number of posts to the list since members first bounce before we consider removing 3 Action when critical or excessive bounces are detected Remove and notify me I guess I would like to know the whole delivery and rejected message process of mailman and when and why it queues messages for Run_queue to process. Also what does it cost to get support. -- Kory Wheatley Office Phone 236-3874 Computing & Communication Academic Computing Analyst sr. Everything you do must point to him.

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Sheesh! ANOTHER Problem!!
by Pete Holsberg 02 Dec '99

02 Dec '99

What could THIS mean? Cron <pjh@saturn> /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 77, in ? main(verbose=(len(sys.argv) > 1 File "/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 34, in main list = MailList.MailList(name, lock = 0) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__ self.Load() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 810, in Load raise Errors.MMBadListError, 'Failed to access config info' MMBadListError: Failed to access config info Redhat 6.x, Python 1.5.2, MM 1.1 Thanks, Pete

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