Mailman 3 December 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] ANOTHER ERROR!
by Dan Mick 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

>From INSTALL: 2. Running configure TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF THE --with-mail-gid AND --with-cgi-gid OPTIONS BELOW. YOU WILL PROBABLY NEED TO USE THESE! Your problem has to do with these configure options. > /var/log/syslog > Dec 15 19:23:10 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Usage: ./wrapper program > [args...] > Dec 15 19:23:14 etrn last message repeated 5 times > Dec 15 19:25:01 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED > gid 1, > GOT gid 10. (Reconfigure to take 10?) > Dec 15 19:25:20 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal command: operador > Dec 16 16:59:14 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED > gid 1, > GOT gid 60001. (Reconfigure to take 60001?) > Dec 16 17:22:25 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED > gid 1, > GOT gid 60001. (Reconfigure to take 60001?) > Dec 16 17:35:04 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED > gid 1, > GOT gid 10. (Reconfigure to take 10?) > Dec 16 17:35:19 etrn last message repeated 1 time > Dec 16 18:12:23 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED > gid 1, > GOT gid 60001. (Reconfigure to take 60001?) > Dec 16 19:03:58 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED > gid 1, > GOT gid 10. (Reconfigure to take 10?) > > -- > Oscar

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subscribe address
by Glenn F . Maynard 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

Situation: I send a 'subscribe' mail to my list. From: is glennm(a)mediaone.net (no reply-to); Sender: is glenn(a)zoot.ne.mediaone.net. The list attempts to subscribe Sender, instead of From; the only way I can get my actual address subbed is to do it via the web mechanisms, and most people don't want to do that (myself included.) I'm not sure where the actual problem is (should my sender be my address? I don't think so. It ignores Reply-To just the same), but in practice this means lots of people have trouble subscribing. Is there a quick way to get the list to take the From (or Reply-to, first, if it's there), rather then Sender? (Even if this breaks RFCs, it'd be a fix for my situation.) Due to this, I'm also forced to allow posting from nonsubscribers (which, for one of my lists, is a bad thing). Disallowing that, I have to add two accounts for myself; one for the one actually receiving mail (glennm(a)mediaone.net) and a post-only one (glenn(a)zoot.ne.mediaone.net). If the list checked From and Reply-to, this wouldn't be needed. I've not had this problem on other lists; am I missing a simple configuration option? -- Glenn Maynard

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ANOTHER ERROR!
by oscar＠colca.rcp.net.pe 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

/var/log/syslog Dec 15 19:23:10 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Usage: ./wrapper program [args...] Dec 15 19:23:14 etrn last message repeated 5 times Dec 15 19:25:01 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 1, GOT gid 10. (Reconfigure to take 10?) Dec 15 19:25:20 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Illegal command: operador Dec 16 16:59:14 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 1, GOT gid 60001. (Reconfigure to take 60001?) Dec 16 17:22:25 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 1, GOT gid 60001. (Reconfigure to take 60001?) Dec 16 17:35:04 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 1, GOT gid 10. (Reconfigure to take 10?) Dec 16 17:35:19 etrn last message repeated 1 time Dec 16 18:12:23 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 1, GOT gid 60001. (Reconfigure to take 60001?) Dec 16 19:03:58 etrn Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 1, GOT gid 10. (Reconfigure to take 10?) -- Oscar

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ERROR!!
by oscar＠colca.rcp.net.pe 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

When a user send a mail to the list (sun) in my server doesnt work, here is the smail's log: 12/16/1999 16:59:14: [m11yiva-000aN9C] Received FROM:user@dom.com HOST:mail.dom.com[192.0.0.1] PROTOCOL:smtp PROGRAM:sendmail ORIG-ID:<m11yijS-006aq9C(a)mail.dom.com> SIZE:2116 12/16/1999 16:59:14: [m11yiva-000aN9C] note: "|/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd sun" ... transport pipe: child returned status EX_2 (2) 12/16/1999 16:59:14: [m11yiva-000aN9C] Delivered TO:/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd sun ORIG-TO:<sun-request(a)etrn.rcp.net.pe> DIRECTOR:aliases TRANSPORT:pipe 12/16/1999 16:59:14: [m11yiva-000aN9C] Completed. The alias is /etc/aliases: ## sun mailing list ## created: 16-Dec-1999 operador sun: "|/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/mail/wrapper post sun" sun-admin: "|/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner sun" sun-request: "|/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd sun" owner-sun: sun-admin sun-owner: sun-admin So, here is a log of the wrapper command, it seems that i dont have any of those libraries or archives, really i had search those files and i dont have it, any ideas??? 10597: open("/usr/lib/libc.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/dev/zero", O_RDONLY) = 4 10597: open("/usr/lib/libdl.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/usr/platform/SUNW,SPARCstation-4/lib/libc_psr.so.1", O_RDONLY) Er r#2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/lib/libsocket.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/dev/zero", O_RDONLY) = 4 10597: open("/usr/lib/libnsl.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/usr/lib/libdl.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/usr/lib/libm.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/usr/lib/libc.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/usr/lib/libmp.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: open("/usr/platform/SUNW,SPARCstation-4/lib/libc_psr.so.1", O_RDONLY) Er r#2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/scripts/mailcmd", O_RDONLY) = 3 10597: stat("/usr/local/bin/Modules/Setup", 0xEFFFE5F0) Err#2 ENOENT 10597: stat("/usr/local/bin/lib/python1.5/string.py", 0xEFFFE580) = 0 10597: stat("/usr/local/bin/Modules/Setup", 0xEFFFE5F0) Err#2 ENOENT 10597: stat("/usr/local/bin/lib/python1.5/lib-dynload", 0xEFFFE5F0) = 0 10597: stat("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/exceptions", 0xEFFFE490) Err#2 EN OENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/exceptions.so", O_RDONLY) Err#2 E 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/exceptions.so", O_RDONLY) Err#2 E NOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/exceptionsmodule.so", O_RDONLY) E rr#2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/exceptions.py", O_RDONLY) Err#2 E NOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/exceptions.pyc", O_RDONLY) Err#2 ENOENT 10597: stat("/usr/local/bin/lib/python1.5/exceptions", 0xEFFFE490) Err#2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/bin/lib/python1.5/exceptions.so", O_RDONLY) Err#2 ENOEN T 10597: open("/usr/local/bin/lib/python1.5/exceptionsmodule.so", O_RDONLY) Err#2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/bin/lib/python1.5/exceptions.py", O_RDONLY) = 4 10597: open("/usr/local/bin/lib/python1.5/exceptions.pyc", O_RDONLY) = 5 10597: stat("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/scripts/paths", 0xEFFFE198) Err#2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/scripts/paths.so", O_RDONLY) Err# 2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/scripts/pathsmodule.so", O_RDONLY ) Err#2 ENOENT 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/scripts/paths.py", O_RDONLY) = 4 10597: open("/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/scripts/paths.pyc", O_RDONLY) = 5 and many more... Also the cron generate bad messages without the domain name: 12,42 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/cron/run_queue this is the log, my hostname is etrn, i have smail and mailman 1.2 with python 1.52 apache 1.3.9 12/17/1999 17:10:17: [m11z5Zp-000aNWC] Completed. 12/17/1999 17:12:01: [12681] remote MAIL FROM: '<mailman-owner@etrn>size=1409' target 'etrn' is not a valid domain; by etrn [161.132.1.199]. 12/17/1999 17:12:01: [12682] remote MAIL FROM: '<mailman-owner@etrn>size=1408' target 'etrn' is not a valid domain; by etrn [161.132.1.199]. 12/17/1999 17:12:01: [12683] remote MAIL FROM: '<mailman-owner@etrn>size=1417' target 'etrn' is not a valid domain; by etrn [161.132.1.199]. 12/17/1999 17:12:01: [12684] remote MAIL FROM: '<mailman-owner@etrn>size=1413' target 'etrn' is not a valid domain; by etrn [161.132.1.199]. 12/17/1999 17:12:01: [12685] remote MAIL FROM: '<mailman-owner@etrn>size=1413' target 'etrn' is not a valid domain; by etrn [161.132.1.199]. 12/17/1999 17:12:01: [12686] remote MAIL FROM: '<mailman-owner@etrn>size=1402' target 'etrn' is not a valid domain; by etrn [161.132.1.199]. Where are the archives need to modify??, do you have a COMPLETE manual or URLS?? Thanks a lot -- Oscar

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
by Nigel Metheringham 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

> Barry A. Warsaw wrote:- > >>>>> "MS" == Michael Sweeney <sweeney(a)projectcool.com> writes: > > MS> I would just as soon see a feature that would automatically > MS> unsubscribe (or at least disable) any address that sent mail > MS> from an autoresponder. > > If you could actually figure out how to /recognize/ such a message, > you could easily add a module to the new message processing > architecture that would do exactly this. Of course its even harder than that... Everyone thinks that autoreplies are easy, and so there are dozens of implementations out there, most of which are totally broken. So autorepliers break into 2 types:- 1. Sane ones that follow the rules. They will (generally) only autoreply to mail thats been sent to the specific address (so they may well autoreply to the monthly list password messages), but they will not autoreply to list messages. These ones are not a problem. 2. Other autoreply systems. All bets are off. They can probably set up mail loops for you, they will be specially designed to work out the least appropriate address to send their output to and anything else that can cause you trouble. Practically by definition they are very hard to auto-detect! One reference thats worth looking at on this is http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/users/reriksso/mail/autoresponder-faq.html The writing style of that URL is not a good indication as to its technical content :-) Nigel. -- [ - Opinions expressed are personal and may not be shared by VData - ] [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces Issue - Revisit II
by J C Lawrence 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:04:45 -0800 (PST) Dan Busarow <dan(a)dpcsys.com> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, J C Lawrence wrote: >> Consider: *ANYBODY*, right now, can bring your server to its >> knees with a mail storm. Bad ju jus. Configure your MTA to >> protect itself and your system. Let your secondary MX'es, who >> are similarly configured, absorb peak loads. Let the originating >> sites hold the mail in normal SMTP fashion until the peak has >> smoothed out a bit. > This volume isn't particularly high for straight sendmail/procmail > delivery. We see higher during large spam runs. But throw python > in the picture and things go down hill fast. Ahh. Yes, that it would. You said 100's -- just how large are you talking? While my current mail server is a little heftier than yours (dual P-333 with 512Meg RAM, Ultra-SCSI III disks and configured for 30 queue runners) even with an inbound rate of ~500 messages per minute all of them headed to MailMan in some fashion (list posts or bounces) I haven't seen the system load go over 16. If you need limit to a smaller number without limiting your incomings, then a simple procmail rule inserted in front of the bounce wrapper to serialise or at least limit parallelism for bounces would probably do it. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cookies: possible to do without?
by J C Lawrence 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:10:32 +0100 Are Tysland <arety(a)dolphinics.no> wrote: > A new problem has noted itself on my old MM-lists: Cookies. Yes, > my main browser at the office handles this fine, but on my Psion5 > (with dialin to the lan via GSM) does not handle cookies (at least > not version 1.52f) at all. First (ugly) thought: telnet from your psion to a *nix box and then run lynx? Ugly, but it might work, -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces Issue - Revisit II
by J C Lawrence 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:43:22 -0800 (PST) Dan Busarow <dan(a)dpcsys.com> wrote: > It's an announce only list, the owner fired off a message and 5 > minutes later the machine was running out of swap because of all > the python processes handling bounces. Only about 1500 messages > had gone out and we had in excess of 100 python's running. (P400 > w/ only 64M RAM). I find it more curious that your MTA is configured to allow 100's of simultaneous deliveries. If you go limit the number of incoming connections under your MTA, this problem wouldn't/shouldn't reproduce. Consider: *ANYBODY*, right now, can bring your server to its knees with a mail storm. Bad ju jus. Configure your MTA to protect itself and your system. Let your secondary MX'es, who are similarly configured, absorb peak loads. Let the originating sites hold the mail in normal SMTP fashion until the peak has smoothed out a bit. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ----------(*) Other: coder(a)kanga.nu --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces Issue - Revisit II
by Allen Bolderoff 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

Dan.Mick(a)West.Sun.COM said: > I'd comment, but I don't see a description of the problem anywhere. > You keep saying "the bounces problem" like we all know what you mean. > I don't. <aol mode> Me neither :) </aol mode> -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Allen Bolderoff <allen(a)gist.net.au> LNC - Redhat and Linux, help and commentary http://linux.netnerve.com CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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Error in relaying
by Patrick Lam 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

Dear Expects, Another stupid question: Dec 17 15:18:07 pigeon sendmail[974]: PAA00974: ruleset=check_rcpt, arg1=<patric k(a)med.cuhk.edu.hk>, relay=IDENT:nobody@localhost [127.0.0.1], reject=550 <patric k(a)med.cuhk.edu.hk>... Relaying denied I got the above error and found that Mailman wrongly recognize nobody@localhost as the relaying host, but other email tools function well !!! Thank you very much for your kind help and attention!! Regards, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Lam Computer Services Unit, Faculty of Medicine, The Chinese University of Hong Kong Tel : 21455213 Fax : 26352521 -------------------------------------------------------

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