Mailman 3 March 1999 - Mailman-Users

1.0b9 trouble
by Arjen Wolfs March 9, 1999

March 9, 1999

Hi there... I've been trying to get 1.0b9 to work on my SuSE Linux box, it installs and compiles fine, following the guidelines from the INSTALL file, up to the point where a site password has to be set, where the following error occurs: mailman@underworld:/home/mailman/mailman-1.0b9/bin > ./mmsitepass password Traceback (innermost last): File "./mmsitepass", line 26, in ? import paths ImportError: No module named paths The box is runing python 1.5.1, kernel 2.0.36, … [View More]

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Possible Fix for password lookup bug
by Brian Ryner March 8, 1999

March 8, 1999

It looks like Mass Subscribe should lowercase the email before subscribing it. (And maybe other processing? when you subscribe yourself it checks for spaces, etc.). Anyway, it looks like all other methods of subscribing lowercase the addresses first, and the options editing script essentially depends on it being lowercase. So... if this all sounds reasonable, could someone please make the change. Thanks. -Brian Ryner bryner(a)uiuc.edu

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Missing Password
by Brian Ryner March 8, 1999

March 8, 1999

Hi- I recently created a list and used the "mass subscribe" option in the web interface to subscribe a LOT of people. I just now got a notice that one of the users is missing a password. What would cause this? Is there a way to SET a password? Now, I just tried using this and subscribing a new address, and it made a random password like (I assume) it's supposed to. Could there be a bug in there that's causing it to sometimes not create a password? Thanks. -Brian Ryner bryner(a)uiuc.edu

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] [ANNOUNCE] Mailman 1.0b9
by Harald Meland March 8, 1999

March 8, 1999

[Per Starback] > Wish list: > > * Add Mail-Followup-To header. (I've done that for myself, but > I would appreciate not having to do it again, as well as I'd like > to see more use of this useful although nonstandard header.) As this (currently) is a non-standard header, I wouldn't feel good about putting explicit support for it into Mailman. However, a more general "Add this header (standard or not) (if it doesn't exist already) to all messages to this list" might be … [View More]good. But not for 1.0, methinks. > * Possibility for individual list members to say if they want > a Subject line [tag] or not. That would mean that there would have > to be two versions of each message, but I think that would be worth > it as the [tag]/no tag preference is more about the preferences > (and mail situation) of individual list members that about the > preferences of the list itself or its maintainer. I would never > add a tag like that on my lists per default, but if users who want > it could get it explicitly that would be nice. For users it is always good to make _all_ the bells and whistles configurable. However, Mailman has to find a balance between user configurability and how efficient list delivery should be. This means we have to make sure that making something user configurable won't make list delivery unbearably inefficient for any Mailman installation. Once we start going down the road of deciding which options should be made user configurable and which aren't really worth it, it is *very* easy to get lost. There are lots of other good candidates for user configurable options concerning outgoing list messages: Adding a Reply-To: header, including the list footer, including the list header, and of course VERP. The added complexity of Mailman code this would need is also an issue. So, what I'm trying to say, is: Yes, this would be nice to have for some installations -- but don't hold your breath :) > * A line at the Membership Management page where you set default > attributes for new users in the same way that you can change > attributes for the existing users. This more general feature > would be instead of the > > Which delivery mode is the default for new users? > and > When receiving digests, which format is default? > > questions on the Digest-member options page. Yes, this would be nice. I'll try looking into it. > I think I would like to set "hide" by default, If you're talking of changing the Mailman default setting, that would be an incompatible change -- and those suck. Thanks a lot for your suggestions on how can be Mailman improved -- and do keep 'em coming! -- Harald [View Less]

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Please help
by Lala March 8, 1999

March 8, 1999

While trying to launch mailman, I encountered a problem I could not solve. Please help if you can. I have Debian and have installed python (it was python-base that is included in the distribution). I configured, installed, OK. Then, I cannot do anything, I am getting the following message instead: Traceback (innermost last): File "./mmsitepass", line 28, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 31, in ? import Utils File "/home/mailman/… [View More]

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Problem with Netscape's Fasttrack ?
by Werner Frank March 8, 1999

March 8, 1999

I translated and nearly installed mailman 1.0b9 in /export/home/mailman on Solaris 2.5.1 I'm running Netscape Fasttrack Server 2.0.1 on the same machine. The web interface starts fine until I want to go to list administration. I created a newlist test with the /export/home/mailman/bin/newlist command. When I enter the administration page for list admin the password is requested. I enter it and the Browser comes with the following URL: http://myserver/mailman/admin/mailman/admin/test … [View More]

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Passing archives files.
by Johnny March 6, 1999

March 6, 1999

Greetings, I'm trying to replace a Majordomo list with the Mailman, but i'm not sure if it is possible to pass the list's archives to the pipermail format. The Majordomo lists are numbered by date, as follows: list-name.9809 This file contains all the messages sent by September 1998. Any suggestion is welcome. Rgds. Johnny

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replacing http:// to --> https:// (ssl)
by Alex Yu March 5, 1999

March 5, 1999

Hello, Will there be *a fast way* that tell mailman to use https instead of http? Alex

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Does anyone else see these?
by J C Lawrence March 5, 1999

March 5, 1999

On Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:17:53 -0600 (CST) Christopher Lindsey<lindsey(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote: > Perhaps Mailman could add (yet another) header indicating the > targetted recepient to help with this type of situation? Maybe > X-Mailman-Recepient? Or it could be wrapped it into another header > like X-BeenThere... One technique I used for my own list software (now defunct) was that every N'th message to each subscriber was sent individually with custom headers giving the … [View More]

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Does anyone else see these?
by paz March 4, 1999

March 4, 1999

I've gotten two admin messages to mailman-owner from a mailman list I run on apriori.net (Hummers - a humor list). (begin included text) =================================== Received: from gw.apriori.net (localhost.apriori.net [127.0.0.1]) by apriori.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29989 for <jokes-in(a)apriori.net>; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:08:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mailman-owner(a)apriori.net) Received: from gw.apriori.net (localhost.apriori.net [127.0.0.1]) … [View More] by apriori.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29979 for <hummers-admin(a)apriori.net>; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:08:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mailman-owner(a)apriori.net) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:08:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199903040708.CAA29979(a)apriori.net> From: mailman-owner(a)apriori.net Subject: Hummers member redscares(a)spamcom.net bouncing - NOT disabled To: hummers-admin(a)apriori.net Errors-To: mailman-owner(a)apriori.net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="192.168.51.99.1.29976.920531310.496.13704" X-Mailman-Version: 1.0b8 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Humor email list. <hummers.apriori.net> Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 16 lines Text 2 Shown 61 lines Text ---------------------------------------- Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: Hummers Member: redscares(a)spamcom.net Action: Subscription not disabled. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. BUT: User not found. The triggering bounce notice is attached below. Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at mailman-owner(a)apriori.net. [ Part 2: "Attached Text" ] This is a MIME-encapsulated message --CAA24772.920531258/camel8.mindspring.com The original message was received at Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:07:37 -0500 (EST) from mx10.mindspring.com [207.69.200.126] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <redscares(a)spamcom.net> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 <redscares(a)spamcom.net>... Host unknown (Name server: spamcom.net: host not found) --CAA24772.920531258/camel8.mindspring.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; camel8.mindspring.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; mx10.mindspring.com Arrival-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:07:37 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; redscares(a)spamcom.net Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; spamcom.net Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:07:38 -0500 (EST) --CAA24772.920531258/camel8.mindspring.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Return-Path: <hummers-admin(a)apriori.net> Received: from mx10.mindspring.com (mx10.mindspring.com [207.69.200.126]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA01606 for <redscares(a)spamcom.net>; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:07:37 -0500 (EST) From: hummers-admin(a)apriori.net X-MindSpring-Loop: t-eaton(a)mindspring.com Received: from apriori.net ([209.192.153.107]) by mx10.mindspring.com (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id rdsc9m.i37.37kbi3u for <t-eaton(a)mindspring.com>; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from gw.apriori.net (localhost.apriori.net [127.0.0.1]) by apriori.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29959; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:08:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hummers-admin(a)apriori.net) Received: from localhost (jokes-in@localhost) by apriori.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA29933 for <hummers(a)apriori.net>; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:07:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jokes-in(a)apriori.net) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:07:51 -0500 (EST) To: hummers(a)apriori.net Subject: [Hummers] The Short List Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990304020500.29669C-100000(a)gw.apriori.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hummers-admin(a)apriori.net Errors-To: hummers-admin(a)apriori.net X-Mailman-Version: 1.0b8 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Humor email list. <hummers.apriori.net> X-BeenThere: hummers(a)apriori.net --CAA24772.920531258/camel8.mindspring.com-- ========================================== (end included text) redscares(a)spamcom.net (obviously) is not a subscriber of list Hummers, yet the message seems to think he is. Therefore I can't delete from the subscriber list one who isn't subscribed... In the line: X-MindSpring-Loop: t-eaton(a)mindspring.com user t-eaton(a)mindspring.com IS a subscriber, however. Does anyone know what's going on with this? cheers - -- Philip. philip zimmermann paz(a)apriori.net www.apriori.net ayer, ma usa [View Less]

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