Mailman 3 April 1999 - Mailman-Users

Cron <list@petunia> /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/cron/run_queue
by dmacdoug＠hsc.usc.edu April 20, 1999

April 20, 1999

Can anyone tell me why I get the following error message every time cron runs the queue? This is Mailman 1.0b11. I've looked at flock.py but Python is still a foreign language to me. I can't figure out what file it isn't able to open or if that is even the problem. Don MacDougall dmacdoug(a)hsc.usc.edu ------ Forwarded message ------ From: root(a)petunia.hsc.usc.edu (Cron Daemon) Subject: Cron <list@petunia> /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/cron/run_queue Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:12:01 -0700 To: list(a)petunia.hsc.usc.edu Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/lib/mailman/cron/run_queue", line 31, in ? OutgoingQueue.processQueue() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/OutgoingQueue.py", line 88, in processQueue lock_file.lock() File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/flock.py", line 119, in lock os.link(self.lockfile, self.tmpfname) os.error: (2, 'No such file or directory')

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1.0b11 bug with underscores in member name?
by Grace, Terry April 19, 1999

April 19, 1999

I have a list member with underscores in the username (eg username_at_hostname(a)domain.com). When a message goes out to the list the following is returned to the list admin and the message is never delivered to the user: ontent-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: List: Nortel-list Member: not(a)domain.com Action: Subscription not disabled. Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. BUT: User not found. The triggering bounce notice is attached below. Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at mailman-owner(a)tgrace.com. Here's the bounced message: ------- Failure Reasons -------- User not listed in public Name & Address Book username_at_hostname(a)domain.com ------- Returned Message -------- Received: from tweety.tgrace.com ([192.206.151.132]) by vfc.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) with SMTP id 85256758.005BAF33; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:41:26 -0400 Received: from internal mail server by tweety.tgrace.com with ESMTP id MAA06051 Received: from internal mail server by tweety.tgrace.com with SMTP id MAA06033 for <nortel-list(a)tgrace.com>; From: SPence6963(a)aol.com Received: from SPence6963(a)aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id oQMZa21000 for <nortel-list(a)tgrace.com>; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48241f08.244cb630(a)aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:12 EDT Subject: [Nortel-list] Definity woes To: nortel-list(a)tgrace.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: nortel-list(a)tgrace.com Sender: nortel-list-admin(a)tgrace.com Errors-To: nortel-list-admin(a)tgrace.com X-Mailman-Version: 1.0b11 Precedence: bulk List-Id: Mailing list for Northern Telecom related issues <nortel-list.tgrace.com> X-BeenThere: nortel-list(a)tgrace.com <message text> _______________________________________________ Nortel-list maillist - Nortel-list(a)tgrace.com http://www.tgrace.com/mailman/listinfo/nortel-list

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Re: Not to bug everyone, but... (A pair of tricks)
by Omar Walid Llorente April 19, 1999

April 19, 1999

freya(a)rfa.org wrote: >I tried posting last week, but never got a reply. Can someone point out >to me why i'm getting these errors on a RedHat linux box (v5.1)? > >I'm getting these errors in /var/log/cron from mailman. Can anyone tell >me what this is all about, and how to fix it? I know that the cron >daemon is being asked to run this via mailman, but is this just a >permissions issue, or possibly a bad install? I'll also attach an >emailed error that I used to get, but no longer get anymore for some >reason... > > >mailman (04/15-11:12:00-5473) CMD (/usr/bin/python >/home/mailman/cron/run_queue) >mailman (04/15-11:42:00-5481) CMD (/usr/bin/python >/home/mailman/cron/run_queue) [...] Hello Adam, i have a trick for solving this. It's a permission problem in some mailman's subdirectories. These are the steps: (as root) 1- cd ~mailman 2- chown -R mailman.root lists locks logs 3- chmod g+s lists locks logs This must solve your problem (i think :-) NOTE: For "untruster" admins: mailman needs you to enable the cookies to change the configuration of any list. Thanks to all for such a good pieze of software. Omar. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centro de Calculo Departamento Ingenieria Telematica (ETSIT) e-mail: omar(a)dit.upm.es Universidad Politecnica de Madrid Tel:(+34) 913367366-Ext.328 Ciudad Universitaria, s/n 28040 Madrid (Spain) Fax:(+34) 913367333 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Bouncing on Mailman
by Richard Ellerbrock April 19, 1999

April 19, 1999

Here is a copy of my modified Bouncer.py python script that I use with mailman 1b11. I have modified it to catch a couple more bounces, including your instance #1 on jitterbug report #34. Try it if you wish. Addresses failing from you instance #1 will be removed. No 2 I cannot help you with. Sorry. The file must go in ~mailman/Mailman. Make a copy of the old one first in case it does not work for you! Richard Ellerbrock richarde(a)eskom.co.za

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bizzarre; disregard previous
by Corbett J. Klempay April 19, 1999

April 19, 1999

Ok, disregard that last message...I just upped to b11, and everything is kosher now (I had to fix some permissions that were apparently wrong in the archives to get the install to go totally cleanly...but they have apparently been that way the whole time it has been working to date)...weird. Anyway, it's working now :) One question: in the 'make update', is there a reason why it asks you to manually copy the new options.html file for each list (or should this be done as part of make update)? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Corbett J. Klempay Quote of the Week: http://www.acm.jhu.edu/~cklempay "A commune is where people join together to share their lack of wealth." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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CRAP
by Corbett J. Klempay April 19, 1999

April 19, 1999

Hey all...I have no idea why (I have emails out to see if any of the other admins were playing around), but my Mailman installation just pretty much choked. I got a mention of a post requiring approval, and I went to the page to approve/deny...and instead of the page, I got an Internal Server Error. I started investigating further, and any kind of Mailman-generated page (admin, listinfo pages) gives an Internal Server Error. I tried sending a message to one of the lists as a test; it never made it out (so I'm assuming all of the lists are down)...and I've also started getting the below message.....anyone know what's up? (Note: this is 1.0b6...yeah, I need to upgrade it, but it was working fine, so I'm wondering what's up) -- Subject: Cron <mailman@chimera> /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/run_queue Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/run_queue", line 25, in ? from Mailman import OutgoingQueue File "/home/mailman/Mailman/OutgoingQueue.py", line 39, in ? import os, stat, tempfile, marshal, errno, mm_cfg File "/home/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py", line 44, in ? from Defaults import * File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py", line 265, in ? PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_FILE_DIR = os.path.join(PREFIX, 'archives/public') AttributeError: USE_CRYPT

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Filtering out mail headers
by joe vaughan April 18, 1999

April 18, 1999

Hi there, If this question is answered anywhere, I haven't been able to find it. :) I have a few mailman lists, with several subscribers that have Delivery reciepts request turned on. I'd like to have mailman automatically strip out the relevant headers if possible. Q1. Is this possible. I'm running exim, and could impose a system filter to trap them, but that means either stripping them from all mail messages to my domain or checking explicitly for the list addresses and then stripping them, which in turn means adding each new list created into the exim filter. I'd like, if possible to do it in mailman. Q2. If it is possible, would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to start? I'm a complete python newbie and reading the mailman source helps a little, but doesn't really teach me enough python to implement such a filter from scratch :) Any help would be appreciated. regards joev -- joe vaughan project coordinator Project Mnemonic joev(a)mnemonic.org http://www.mnemonic.org/

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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman & sendmail 8.9.3 problem
by Chris Barnett April 17, 1999

April 17, 1999

Thanks!! That corrected the problem. Chris B. -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Lindsey To: Chris(a)ent.health.ufl.edu Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Sent: 4/17/99 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman & sendmail 8.9.3 problem > "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test02" > (expanded from: <test02-admin(a)uff-com.uff.ufl.edu>) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs > 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test02"... Service unavailable > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > > So instead of being a good sysadmin and actually checking to see what the > problem was, I decided "Ah, upgrading to mailman 1.0b11 will fix it". So I > upgraded and that went fine...but the error is still there. I don't know much about the new RedHat distribution, but it sounds as if it may be running smrsh -- sendmail restricted shell. smrsh limits what programs sendmail will run to a list of files within a certain directory, usually /var/adm/sm.bin. I'd do a 'man smrsh' and see what directory it uses (assuming that this is the problem), then go into that directory and do ln -s /home/mailman/mail/wrapper as root. Chris

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mailman & sendmail 8.9.3 problem
by Chris Barnett April 17, 1999

April 17, 1999

Hi, I've been using mailman 1.0b9 problem free for a good bit now without problem on a Redhat 5.2 system. Of course, last night I decided to get adventurous and I upgraded my box to the Redhat 5.9 Starbuck prerelease (or whatever it's called this week). Everything went fine, including the upgrade to Sendmail 8.9.3 or so I thought. now whenever I try to send mail to any of my lists I get the following back from the Mail Delivery Subsytem: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The original message was received at Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:44:05 -0400 from UFF-COM.UFF.UFL.EDU [128.227.33.150] (may be forged) ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test02" (expanded from: <test02-admin(a)uff-com.uff.ufl.edu>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test02"... Service unavailable ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've tried 3 different lists and I get the same sort of thing. So it looks like it's reading the /etc/aliases file properly, but somehow my rights got set incorrectly and sendmail can't access the wrapper. So instead of being a good sysadmin and actually checking to see what the problem was, I decided "Ah, upgrading to mailman 1.0b11 will fix it". So I upgraded and that went fine...but the error is still there. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. Chris Barnett Web Desinger & Programmer University of Florida Foundation, Inc.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Still need code info for privacy option
by Ken Manheimer April 16, 1999

April 16, 1999

Damn, i hit the wrong key. That's what i get (sorry you all do to) for trying to rush to get this out late on friday eve. I was saying: On thursday, Nicholson James D wrote: > I reported a problem previously that the privacy option to rewrite the mail > header to make it appear that it is coming from the list as opposed to an > individual user, is broken under IRIX 6.2 (or possibly just on my machine). > I REALLY need to take a look at the code responsible for this. However, I > just don't know mailman. > > Could someone please give me a pointer to the code responsible for the > rewrite as well as some way to check the settings to see if the web > interface to list administration is setting the switch correctly for this > feature? The variable name in the code is 'anonymous_list', and the relevant focus is in Mailman/MailList.py . There's a section where the setting is defined, and another setting in the Post() method where it is used. A common simple trick for investigating the setting would be to make calls to self.LogMsg(), e.g. self.LogMsg("debug", "anonymous_list: %s", self.anonymous_list) # DEBUG just before the conditional in Post() that uses it, and then you should see an entry in the logs/debug file with the message, each time your line is executed. If it is set but the lines within the conditional aren't doing their job, to ascertain exactly what's going on you'll have to get acquainted with the Mailman.Message.IncomingMessage class, at least enough to poke around one. Oh yeah, if you really want to have fun, and are comfortable with python, the README file describes interacting with a maillist from the python command prompt. You can also interact with message objects, etc. But it's not for the faint of heart. I hope this helps - sorry i don't have the time to help more with your investigation, let us know what you determine! Ken klm(a)digicool.com

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