Mailman 3 May 1999 - Mailman-Users

Newbie probs
by Dave Sill 28 May '99

28 May '99

Just installed 1.0rc1/Python 1.5.2 and created a test list called "mailman-test". (Never got a message from Mailman about it, but I guessed the URL would be: http://sws1/mailman/listinfo/mailman-test I got: Bug in Mailman version 1.0rc1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! If you would like to help us identify the problem, please email a copy of this page to the webmaster for this site with a description of what happened. Thanks! Traceback: Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 89, in run_main immediate=1) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 48, in __init__ Logger.__init__(self, category, nofail, immediate) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 40, in __init__ self.__get_f() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 63, in __get_f reraise() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Logging/Logger.py", line 55, in __get_f f = self.__fp = open(self.__filename, 'a+') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/logs/error' Environment variables: Variable Value DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/www/htdocs REMOTE_HOST sws5.ctd.ornl.gov SERVER_PORT 80 PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/www/htdocs/mailman-test GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 HTTP_PROXY_CONNECTION Keep-Alive REMOTE_ADDR 128.219.128.125 SERVER_NAME sws1.ctd.ornl.gov SCRIPT_FILENAME /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo HTTP_ACCEPT image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* REQUEST_URI /mailman/listinfo/mailman-test PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/etc:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/ucb:/sbin QUERY_STRING SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.0 PATH_INFO /mailman-test HTTP_HOST sws1 REQUEST_METHOD GET SERVER_SIGNATURE Apache/1.3.6 Server at sws1.ctd.ornl.gov Port 80 SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/listinfo SERVER_ADMIN ds-sws1-webmaster(a)sws5.ctd.ornl.gov SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) PYTHONPATH /usr/local/mailman REMOTE_PORT 4770 Any ideas what I did wrong? -Dave

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Patch against HyperArch.py
by Kadlecsik Jozsi 28 May '99

28 May '99

Hello, The patch below against HyperArch.py makes the archive.html template to work: the changes made on the web interface will have effect and HyperArch will use the template instead of the hardcoded page. *** HyperArch.py.orig Wed May 26 10:32:54 1999 --- HyperArch.py Fri May 28 12:30:09 1999 *************** *** 462,471 **** --- 462,481 ---- % (t, t)) return self.html_hdr_tmpl % d + def SnarfHTMLTemplate(self, file): + # XXX: hack, blech, yuk + filename = os.path.join(mm_cfg.LIST_DATA_DIR, + self.maillist._internal_name, + file) + f = open(filename,'r') + str = f.read() + f.close() + return str def html_TOC(self): d = {"listname": self.maillist.real_name, + "internalname": self.maillist._internal_name, "listinfo": self.maillist.GetAbsoluteScriptURL('listinfo') } listing = "" if not self.archives: *************** *** 521,526 **** --- 531,537 ---- {'archive' : a, 'textlink': textlink} d["archive_listing"] = listing + self.html_TOC_tmpl = self.SnarfHTMLTemplate('archives.html') return self.html_TOC_tmpl % d def __init__(self, maillist,unlock=1): The template must be based on the following version of archive.html: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <title>The %(listname)s Archives</title> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <h1>The %(listname)s Archives </h1> <p> <a href="%(listinfo)s">More info on this list...</a> </p> %(noarchive_msg)s %(archive_listing_start)s %(archive_listing)s %(archive_listing_end)s </BODY> </HTML> Regards, Jozsef -- E-mail : kadlec(a)sunserv.kfki.hu, kadlec(a)blackhole.kfki.hu PGP key: finger kadlec(a)sunserv.kfki.hu | WWW: http://www.kfki.hu/~kadlec Address: KFKI Research Institute for Particle and Nuclear Physics H-1525 Budapest 114, POB. 49, Hungary

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Problems interpreting addresses
by Tony Abbott 28 May '99

28 May '99

Hi all, A problem & a general question for you: 1) I'm testing mailman here and everything went smoothly up until I tried to confirm my subscription to a test list. I don't have this problem with the mailman lists, so I was wondering if anyone else has had this or if I'm just being daft :) It seems to have trouble interpreting my From: field (which is "Tony Abbott <tabbott(a)intekom.com>"), because in logs/smtp-failures I get: May 28 07:56:35 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: To tony: May 28 07:56:35 1999 TrySMTPDelivery: Mailman.pythonlib.smtplib.SMTPRecipientsRefused / {'tony': (501, '<tony>: recipient address must contain a domain')} (dequeued) so it looks to me like it is just taking the first word of the address when trying to reply instead of the actual email address. It sends the first message fine when I subscribe via the web page, so the mail does work, it just seems to grok this address incorrectly. I'm running mailman v1.0rc1, Python 1.5.2 & Exim 3.01 on Irix 6.2. Any ideas? 2) How ready is Mailman for production use? From the fact that it's for all intents and purposes reached version 1.0 I assume it's stable. How well does it scale? thanks -t -- Tony Abbott tabbott(a)intekom.co.za Systems Administrator, Intekom Tel: +27-11-266-7800 http://www.intekom.co.za Fax: +27-11-315-0707 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This information may be subject to attorney and client or other privilege. It must not be disclosed to any person without Intekom's permission.

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MajorDomo > Mailman
by B. Friday 26 May '99

26 May '99

Hello all, I've not been able to find any information regarding this topic in the archives although I'm almost sure that their is information available... If anyone has experience with this type of upgrade I would appreciate any insight. I'd like to be able to merge my majordomo archives (secondary concern) into mailman archives as well as transfer my lists over(primary concern). I'll summarize to the list for later inclusion in a faq... Thanks Brian Friday SysAdmin La Sierra Unversity

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Reply-problems
by arety＠dolphinics.no 26 May '99

26 May '99

The list is up and running, but some users have strange mailers which replies with 'Ad: ' or 'SV: ' instead of 'Re: '. Mailman is good in not adding [listname] on replies, as long they use the 'Re: '. Is there any way of adding support for 'Ad: ', 'SV: ' or anything like that? I see the same problem when the subject-line is mime-encoded because some use non-ascii characters (which also is ugly in the archive). Are -@-

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Mail wrapper and GID error
by Mark 26 May '99

26 May '99

I set up a test mailing list and I Can go to the webpage and fill in everything and I get the confirmation email just fine. When I reply to confirm I get the following errors. Syslog shows May 25 22:34:08 emily Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. (Reconfigure to take 2?) And the email says: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test" (expanded from: <test-request(a)mystic.nu>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test"... unknown mailer error 2 When I run configure, it automatically picks 12 as the GID for mail but if I try any other GID including 2 with ./configure --with-mail-gid it says configure: error: ***** No existing group found for the mail_wrapper program. I've tried every GID I have! :) None of them work though. SO I guess what I need to know is how the heck do I find (or make) the proper group/GID that sendmail uses? I'm running Linux 3.6 with kernel 2.2.5 and sendmail-8.9.1 if this makes any difference. Thanks in advance for any help!

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Problems with approval
by arety＠bigfoot.com 25 May '99

25 May '99

Hi, I've installed Mailman two weeks ago and have been playing around with it for a while before I put it to serious work. After a second install I got the archive working (don't know why though). Well, now I'm stuck at the message approval. The problem is that the message is always held for approval even if the config say it should not and the list is restricted to members. The same problem occur if I set up to just allow some posters. It seems to me that if there are some place in the config which hold messages for approval, all messages are held with the message "Postings from member addresses only". The sender /is/ a member. Is it somewhing I've done wrong or is the installation incorrect? Any clues? Are Tysland -@-

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smrsh + mailman = "unknown mailer error 2", but not always...
by Luca Polo 24 May '99

24 May '99

Hallo everyone, this is my first post on this forum, and although I find Mailman a very good piece of software, I already have a puzzling question (puzzling for me, at least...). I've just installed mailman 1.0rc1 under Solaris 7 + sendmail 8.9.3 + python 1.5.2, and I've experienced the same behaviour John-David Childs has described a while ago (thread "Desperation Time! :)", which I've found in the May archive). Strangely enough, I got this error after the first install, but mailman al- so reported an error in the mail GID I had chosen, so I reinstalled it from scratch with the right GID, and it worked fine. For a while. Today, mail delivering stopped working again, with the same error. I've made some tests, and at last I recompiled the wrapper with the GID_MISMATCH macro in src/common.h redefined to "99" instead of the default "2" (I cho- osed "99" randomly, just to see if "mailer error 2" would have been trans- formed in "mailer error 99", or something more interesting :-); BTW, smrsh *is* correctly configured, with a symlink to ~mailman/mail/wrapper in /usr/adm/sm.bin, etc.). I then just copied only the "wrapper" binary to ~mailman/mail and restored its permissions to -rwx-r-sr-x, leaving everything else untouched (I double checked that owner, group and permission were the same before and after the test; I also saved a backup copy of the old executable). Well, I didn't expect it to work, but it worked, and this is quite a nonsense, since it looked "obvious" that there was no relationship between GID_MISMATCH and the error code returned by smrsh (at least, not after having correctly confiugred the mail GID). I also recompiled smrsh, expli- citly adding /usr/local/bin in its internal PATH, just to see if it was a problem of finding python, but nothing changed... Looking at smrsh code shows nothing interesting: it just performs a few "sanity checks" on the command string passed by sendmail and if it's all OK, it just spawns a real shell which in turn executes the wrapper, etc.; and the wrapper is not much more complex than smrsh... So, I just returned to the old wrapper (GID_MISMATCH = 2) and the old smrsh, and everything keeps working fine, but I'm still wondering *what* caused this strange behaviour... At a first glance, it seems that just replacing the "old" wrapper with a "new" (identical!) one, is enough to "unblock" something somewhere, but the Big Question is "what and where?". Any hint? Best regards, Luca Polo. -- / Luca Polo : Luca.Polo(a)gest.unipd.it || Dipartimento di Tecnica e \ | System & network administrator || Gestione dei Sistemi Industriali | \ http://www.gest.unipd.it/~jake || Universita` di Padova -- Italy /

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Exception in ScanMessage for MIME messages with missing boundary
by Ian Jackson 24 May '99

24 May '99

(Is this the right place to report bugs ?) One of the lists on my system received a bounce with an empty body, but with Content-Type: multipart/report. When Mailman tried to parse it it got an exception because it couldn't find the message boundary. Below you'll find the relevant part from the Mailman error log, and a copy of the Exim queue file (the -H file; since there was no body the -D file is not interesting) in which you can see the message headers. Ian. May 24 10:42:48 1999 post: Traceback (innermost last): post: File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 46, in ? post: if not current_list.bounce_processing or not current_list.ScanMessage (msg): post: File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Bouncer.py", line 335, in ScanMessage post: relevant_text = string.split(msg.body, '--%s' % boundry)[1] post: IndexError : list index out of range 10ksp7-0003rT-00-H mail 8 8 <> 927306665 0 -host_address 195.89.137.2 -host_name maildns.fsbdial.co.uk -helo_name maildns.FSBDial.co.uk -ident -received_protocol esmtp -body_linecount 0 -frozen 927538968 -manual_thaw XX 1 rocksoc-announce-admin(a)DOMAIN.REMOVED.IN.CASE.OF.SPAM 169P Received: from maildns.fsbdial.co.uk [195.89.137.2] by DOMAIN.REMOVED.IN.CASE.OF.SPAM with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10ksp7-0003rT-00 (Debian); Fri, 21 May 1999 18:16:05 +0100 060F From: "postmaster(a)freenet.co.uk" <postmaster(a)freenet.co.uk> 100T To: "rocksoc-announce-admin(a)DOMAIN.REMOVED.IN.CASE.OF.SPAM" <rocksoc-announce-admin(a)DOMAIN.REMOVED.IN.CASE.OF.SPAM> 061 Subject: Failed mail: exceeded maximum incoming message size 038 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:30:35 +0100 043I Message-Id: <15303513975959(a)freenet.co.uk> 028 X-Mailer: NTMail v4.30.0008 016* Return-Path: <> 018 Mime-Version: 1.0 107 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="==_15303513975961(a)freenet.co.uk==_"

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman rc1 and zmailer doesn't cooperate?
by J C Lawrence 24 May '99

24 May '99

On Mon, 17 May 1999 16:00:43 +0200 Tomaz Borstnar <tomaz.borstnar(a)over.net> wrote: > As you can see it's Mailman sending extra space after command - > which is not good and which is why Zmailer rejects the message > thus making Mailman unusable for me. Per my reading its legal per the RFC. ZMailer needs to be fixed. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Linux/IA64 - Work: claw(a)varesearch.com ... Beware of cromagnons wearing chewing gum and palm pilots ...

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