Mailman 3 July 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Question
by Christopher Schulte July 22, 1999

July 22, 1999

At 06:17 PM 7/21/99 +0000, you wrote: >Below is what I got when I sent to my test list. > >I am using sendmail 8.9.1 on freebsd 3.2 with mailman-1.0rc3. > >Any suggestions?? I have looked through the email archive with no such >luck althought it has been a long day and I am tired. > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 2 This looks to me like you did not configure the wrapper with the correct mail gid. From the INSTALL: "--with-mail-gid=<group-or-groups> Specify an alternative group for running scripts via the mail wrapper. <group-or-groups> can be a list of one or more integer group ids or symbolic group names. The first value in the list that resolves to an existing group is used. By default, the value is the list `other daemon'. This is highly system dependent and you must get this right, because the group id is compiled into the mail wrapper program for added security. On systems using sendmail, the sendmail.cf configuration file designates the group id of sendmail processes using the "DefaultUser" option. (If commented out, it still may be indicating the default...)" Take a look at the sendmail.cf and look for "DefaultUser" and compile accordingly. If nothing is specified, you need to know how sendmail operates for the default. I got this explanation from Darren Henderson about 2 months ago: "Sendmail's algorithm for picking the default user is to take the first existing user of mailnull, sendmail, or daemon. If none of those are found it defaults to 1:1. FreeBSD does have a daemon user (uid 1) and a deamon group (gid 1), but for some reason its primary group is set to 31 instead of 1 (so default user 1:31 was being used by sendmail). For some reason that was a problem for mailman. So, I forced it to 1:1. And no, I haven't noticed any difficulties because of this." -- NAME: Christopher Schulte LOVE: techno crap, pizza SITE: http://www.schulte.org/ MAIL: christopher(a)schulte.org "Six o clock in the morning, my head is ready to explode. I can't believe I made it home alive. I don't remember where I went, or what I was drinking..." --Stabbing Westward Darkest Days

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Virus detection and filtering.
by nbecker＠fred.net July 22, 1999

July 22, 1999

If you really want it, put it in the MTA.

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8 bit headers causing bounces...
by Nigel Metheringham July 22, 1999

July 22, 1999

I currently have one subscriber on the list whose From: line contains a load of 8 bit data. This goes through my MTA and mailman quite happily, but is being bounced by a number of other remote mailers. I am talking to the subscriber concerned, however I am a tad concerned that this has the potential to be a bigger problem. Howabout a denial of service attack - I send a pile of messages of this type to the list, which get bounced by various MTAs and cause the recipients behind the picky MTAs to be unsubscribed.... Should mailman be looking at tampering with the basic headers to make them more acceptable to all MTAs? For example should mailman convert all 8 bit chars in From/To/Reply-To/Subject etc to be QP encoded? Or should these mails be identifiable by mailman and held for moderating - in which case the list owner needs a way of fixing them up. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Performance question
by Jeff Barger July 21, 1999

July 21, 1999

Hi all, Just wondering, what are the biggest lists that anyone is running though mailman? I've got a non-profit group I'm getting ready to set a list up for and their current sub list is approx. 100,000 but with pretty light traffic (2-3 messages/day). No archiving or anything, just message delivery. Should mailman handle this ok or am I asking for trouble? -Jeff

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Performance question
by J C Lawrence July 21, 1999

July 21, 1999

On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:03:26 -0400 Jeff Barger <jeff(a)look.net> wrote: > Hi all, Just wondering, what are the biggest lists that anyone is > running though mailman? I've got a non-profit group I'm getting > ready to set a list up for and their current sub list is > approx. 100,000 but with pretty light traffic (2-3 > messages/day). No archiving or anything, just message > delivery. Should mailman handle this ok or am I asking for > trouble? While I haven't gone that big, I've gotten close. Your biggest concern is going to be tuning the MTA that MailMan delivers to, not MailMan itself. -- J C Lawrence Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Linux/IA64 - Work: claw(a)varesearch.com ... Beware of cromagnons wearing chewing gum and palm pilots ...

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Exception in OngoingQueue.py
by Thomas Ackermann July 21, 1999

July 21, 1999

Hi! Anybody ever got such an exception? --------------------------------------snip------------------------------------ From: root (Cron Daemon) To: mailman Subject: Cron <mailman@service> /usr/local/bin/python +/usr/local/mailman/cron/run_queue Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/run_queue", line 31, in ? OutgoingQueue.processQueue() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/OutgoingQueue.py", line 121, in processQueue Utils.TrySMTPDelivery(recip,sender,text,full_fname) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 217, in TrySMTPDelivery OutgoingQueue.dequeueMessage(queue_entry) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/OutgoingQueue.py", line 179, in +dequeueMessage os.unlink(q_entry) os.error: (2, 'No such file or directory') --------------------------------------snip------------------------------------ Just in case someone already made this experience ... Byebye, -- Thomas Ackermann | Tel. +49-(0)228/631369|73-7773 | <tgm(a)math.uni-bonn.de> finger tgm(a)rhein.math.uni-bonn.de for public key GNU LINUX Python gtk pygtk MySQL FUDGE GURPS

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Macintosh IE 4.5, cookie decoding problem status?
by Brett Dikeman July 21, 1999

July 21, 1999

Saw this mentioned in the archives, but no solution was posted. I'm running mailman-1.0rc3, and I can't do -squat- from IE 4.5 because mailman can't decode the cookies. The cookie is there, it has some data in it, it's enabled, I don't have any proxies, etc. Is this in the process of being fixed, fixed already, or what? It's a major problem if it can't be administered from any browser, particularly one of the most popular Macintosh browsers. In my application, if it won't work on IE 4.5, I can't use it...period. Brett ---- Brett Dikeman Network/System Administrator Artel Software 617-451-9900x119 381 Congress Street 617-451-9916(fax) Boston, MA 02210 brett(a)artelsoft.com http://www.borisfx.com PGP public key available at http://blitz.artelsoft.com/pgpkey

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Admin pages vs. Navigator 3 no good ?
by Andy McClements July 21, 1999

July 21, 1999

Hi, I have one of my list-owners trying to manage his list via the web-pages, and he's finding that with Navigator 3.01 (16-bit), nothing seems to be changed when he hits the "Submit changes" button. He's unable to subscribe any users for example. I've duplicated this problem on a different system also running Navigator 3. If this a known problem ? Is there a patch ? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Andy McClements | mailto: a.mcclements(a)linst.ac.uk Network Administrator | http: it.linst.ac.uk The London Institute HEC | phone: 0171 514 6051 -----------------------------------------------------------------

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install mailman error message
by Jack Tsai July 21, 1999

July 21, 1999

I found error message when installing mailman. Please help. >Here is the messge when I did ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mailman: > >wombat:/usr/local/src/mailman-1.0rc3> ./configure >--prefix=/usr/local/mailman >loading cache ./config.cache >checking for --with-python... >checking for python... (cached) /usr/local/bin/python >checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/python >checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/local/bin/ginstall >-c >checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes >checking for true... (cached) /bin/true >checking for --without-gcc... no >checking for gcc... (cached) gcc >checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes >checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no >checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes >checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes >checking whether #! works in shell scripts... (cached) yes >checking for mailman UID... Built-in exception class not found: >EnvironmentError. Library mismatch? >Warning! Falling back to string-based exceptions >mailman >checking for mailman GID... Built-in exception class not found: >EnvironmentError. Library mismatch? >Warning! Falling back to string-based exceptions >100 >checking permissions on /usr/local/mailman... Built-in exception class not >found: EnvironmentError. Library mismatch? >Warning! Falling back to string-based exceptions >okay >checking for mail wrapper GID... (cached) Built-in exception class not >found: EnvironmentError. Library mismatch? >Warning! Falling back to string-based exceptions >1 >checking for CGI wrapper GID... (cached) Built-in exception class not >found: EnvironmentError. Library mismatch? >Warning! Falling back to string-based exceptions >60001 >checking for CGI extensions... no >Built-in exception class not found: EnvironmentError. Library mismatch? >Warning! Falling back to string-based exceptions >checking for default fully qualified host name... wombat >checking for default URL host component... wombat >checking for strerror... (cached) yes >checking for setregid... (cached) yes >checking for syslog... (cached) yes >checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) gcc -E >checking for ANSI C header files... (cached) yes >checking for syslog.h... (cached) yes >checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... (cached) yes >checking type of array argument to getgroups... (cached) gid_t >creating ./config.status >creating misc/paths.py >creating Mailman/Defaults.py >creating Mailman/mm_cfg.py.dist >creating src/Makefile >creating misc/Makefile >creating bin/Makefile >creating Mailman/Makefile >creating Mailman/Cgi/Makefile >creating Mailman/Logging/Makefile >creating Mailman/Archiver/Makefile >creating Mailman/pythonlib/Makefile >creating mail/Makefile >creating templates/Makefile >creating cron/Makefile >creating filters/Makefile >creating scripts/Makefile >creating cron/crontab.in >creating Makefile >

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Feature Request: Strip 'return receipt'
by Dave Cinege July 20, 1999

July 20, 1999

Not only is a request for return reciept post annoying, it is also a way to fish for mailing list members. I feel proper action should be to strip this line from the header and pass on the post. I have already added disposition-notification-to: .* To my 'hold headers' regex, but would prefer the above. -- http://www.linuxrouter.org/ Linux Router Project "Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could." William F. Buckley, Jr

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