Mailman 3 July 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] not able to clear pending admin requests.
by Nigel Metheringham July 19, 1999

July 19, 1999

This actually addresses a problem I have and a more general issue with the admin interface. It would be better for me if mailman did not pass me the whole message in the admin web page - the page gets huge if there are a number of these messages, and I appear to only be able to deal with one at a time. This means I can spend ages dealing with these things if I am on a low bandwidth link. Ideally the interface would give me a list of messages with basic information about them - sender, date, subject, why held etc. I would be able to select any or all of them for approval/rejection and then click the submit button and have them all fired off at once. A link on each message description would allow me to inspect a single message in more detail - basically giving the current interface but limited to a single message. There may be related race conditions with doing this if there is more than one admin. [actually there may be already and they may be as easy to fix with this method as the current] Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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not able to clear pending admin requests.
by Peter Jacob Slot July 19, 1999

July 19, 1999

Hi, I have a test site running mailman. Someone has send a large Email (with very large attachement) As I have setup, this posting is send to the administrator. ---- Pending posts: From: morten.thomsen(a)ld.dk on Tue Jun 29 18:36:21 1999: Cause: 'Message body too long (>100k)' --- My problem is that I am not able to remove this message because it will cause the (small) server into high load/memory use caused by python. After some time the browser get's a timeout and the load on the server disappears. Is there a way of manually removing these postings? Best regards, Peter J Slot L&D/TopNordic A/S

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Re: [Mailman-Users] sender/envelope addresses esp with mailed commands
by Nigel Metheringham July 19, 1999

July 19, 1999

bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us said: > However, if your ISP is inserting an unqualified Sender: address into > outgoing mail it is broken. You say fixing this is not really an > option, though I don't understand why that is (it what way does it > impact many other people's systems?). If that's really the case I > don't know what you can really do. The Netscape MTA (ugh - but it has its uses as a test bed) inserts an unqualified sender line into the message. I do not believe that an MTA should be trying to fix up ( NM> I tried just stripping the sender header (assuming that would probably wrongly) message headers broken like this, so the ISP has no chance to fix it. NM> I tried just stripping the sender header (assuming that would NM> cause a drop back to From: headers as is implied in the FAQ NM> etc), and managed to completely break list posting :-( bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us said: > I don't understand this part. Where did you strip the Sender: header? > Look at IncomingMessages.GetSender() in Mailman/Message.py. It > definitely falls back to using From: if Sender: doesn't exist. I stripped the sender within my MTA (deleting a header is easy - fixing it in this case is close to impossible). I think the posting breaking was a side effect of trying to many experiements at once and misunderstanding some of the config trade offs in Mailman. I'll come back on this when I finally work out exactly what I broke. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Mailman ready for prime time?
by Lance A. Brown July 18, 1999

July 18, 1999

I realize that mailman isn't at a "finished" 1.0 version yet but I need to explore whether it is ready to handle a site with about 160 lists varying from 1-2 msgs/month to over 100 msgs/day. This site is currently using lsitproc 8.2 and suffering various difficulties which I think mailman would fix. So, what is the consensus of the list? --[Lance]

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problem installing on FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE, Python 1.5.1, Apache, sendmail
by james＠perforce.com July 18, 1999

July 18, 1999

First of all, let me say that I think Mailman (and Python!) are the greatest things since sliced bread. I do, however, have a 1.0rc3 install problem which I'm at a loss to solve. The web interface works fine but I just can't send email to a test list - I have the dreaded "unknown mailer error 2" blues. Before you say "check the gid used by sendmail", well, I have. To prove what it's using I added an alias gidtest: "|/usr/bin/id >/tmp/gidtest" then sent mail to gidtest. The result is: cat /tmp/gidtest uid=1(daemon) gid=1(daemon) groups=1(daemon) I've checked /var/log/messages and I see nothing pertinent there. Note that for some reason when I first installed mailman daemon was in group "guest" with gid 31. I changed the passwd entry to put daemon in group daemon (gid 1). I then tried the email, but it bounced as before. I tried reinstalling (make clean, configure, make install) Mailman specifying --with-mail-gid=1 but I still got bounces. I tried completely deleting everything, starting over with 'tar xvfz mailman.tar.gz' and installing, again with --with-mail-gid=1 but I still get bounces. I have installed Mailman successfully on another FreeBSD machine using Apache and sendmail and have been using it for quite a while (it's 1.0b6 vintage, or thereabouts). That makes it all the more frustrating that I can't get it to work on this other machine. They're both running FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE, although the other machine was running 2.2 when I installed Mailman. I think both machines are running sendmail 8.9.1 I noticed a couple of glitches during the install. The INSTALL instructions mention 'owner-mailman' at one point but 'mailman-owner' everywhere else. There is a paragraph 'Note: Do *not* change HOME_DIR or MAILMAN_DIR ...' which doesn't seem to apply any more (I couldn't find MAILMAN_DIR anywhere). I could not find any .gif files anywhere - the misc directory doesn't seem to have been installed (should it have been, or should the instructions be different?). Lastly, and most importantly, bin/check_perms fails with a stack traceback: Traceback (innermost last): File "bin/check_perms", line 160, in ? checkall() File "bin/check_perms", line 76, in checkall os.path.walk(mm_cfg.PREFIX, checkwalk, STATE) File "/usr/local/lib/python1.5/posixpath.py", line 253, in walk walk(name, func, arg) File "/usr/local/lib/python1.5/posixpath.py", line 253, in walk walk(name, func, arg) File "/usr/local/lib/python1.5/posixpath.py", line 247, in walk func(arg, top, names) File "bin/check_perms", line 52, in checkwalk except OSError, (code, msg): NameError: OSError I tried copying the misc directory over and rerunning check_perms and I got: Traceback (innermost last): File "bin/check_perms", line 164, in ? checkadminpw() File "bin/check_perms", line 128, in checkadminpw mode = statmode(adminpw) File "bin/check_perms", line 39, in statmode return os.stat(path)[ST_MODE] os.error: (2, 'No such file or directory') Any help appreciated! -- James Strickland Perforce Software Technical Support support(a)perforce.com 510 864-7400

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Converting LISTSERV archives to something arch can understand
by Moacir July 18, 1999

July 18, 1999

I'm having a bit of trouble updating the three years of listserv files I have to mbox format--or any format that arch can understand. I receive the files as body text of an email, that looks basically like this: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 00:12:51 -0500 Reply-To: Moacir <mpdesape(a)MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> Sender: foo-l <foo-l(a)UICVM.UIC.EDU> From: Moacir <mpdesape(a)MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> Subject: Problems with St Stephen and the brown-eyed woman Comments: To: foo-l(a)uic.edu the first series of messages. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 00:13:51 -0500 Reply-To: Moacir <mpdesape(a)MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> Sender: foo-l <foo-l(a)UICVM.UIC.EDU> From: Moacir <mpdesape(a)MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> Subject: I'll send this out again, about St Stephen Comments: To: foo-l(a)uic.edu The second message, etc. ---------------- all the way to the end. Now, we've managed to convert those lines of "=" into what looks like a normal email "From" line, but it still doesn't seem to be working out right. Any quick hints on how to mboxify (or anything arch can read) this file format? tia, --m

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Installation Problem.
by Han, SangBeom July 18, 1999

July 18, 1999

I compiled the mailman 1.0rc3. When I try installing it using "make install" command, it failed with following message. -------- Undefined first referenced symbol in file vsnprintf common.o ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to admin *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `admin' Current working directory /tmp/mailman-1.0rc3/src *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install' -------- So I look into the "configure" file. In "configure" file, following line is comment out. -------- # Checks for library functions. # TBD: what to do if vsnprintf /doesn't/ exist? #AC_CHECK_FUNCS(vsnprintf) -------- What should i do?? My Platform: Sun Sparc Ultra 1 Solaris 2.5.1 ko gcc 2.8.1 Thanks for my letter. Have a good time. -- OOOOOOOpen Mind! OOOOOOO OO OO sbhan(a)os.korea.ac.kr, handdol(a)nownuri.net OO OO Operating System Lab. in Korea University OO OO (lab) 02-3290-3573 (private) 017-282-8968 OOOOOOO OOOOOOOpen World! # Everything is illusion. # From Kring, the Fantasy World.

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Virtual Domains?
by Joe Keenan July 17, 1999

July 17, 1999

Does Mailman have any specific support for Virtual Domains, or do I have to resort to the same sort of hackery I used for Majordomo? Specifically, I want the lists to appear to be on different hosts, as well as the web interfaces. Thanks! joe

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Newbie Question: Is Sub Confirmation Required?
by Darrin Wortlehock July 17, 1999

July 17, 1999

Hi all, Sorry if this is a FAQ, but the documentation seems sparse atm... :) I run a small, business centric ISP in regional Western Australia. I have a customer who wants to establish an announce-only list service, with subscription from a simple form on their remotely hosted web site. The customer's site is running qmail for an MTA and we have tried using ezmlm for the list. The problem is that the customer is absolutely definitely adament (beyond persuasion otherwise) that they do NOT want list subscribers to have to reply to a confirmation message before being added to the list. I have tried to convince the customer on the technical and security merit of subscription confirmation, but he will not budge. My question therefore is: Is it possible to configure a mailman list to not require return confirmation messages for subscription from a web form? Thanks. Darrin.

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Non-Latin characters?
by Glen Malley July 17, 1999

July 17, 1999

I'm curious as to whether or not anyone has gotten Mailman to work well with messages containing non-Latin characters. In my particular case, Japanese. I did a few tests on my test-box and found that while Japanese messages do get sent perfectly to the mailing list recipients, archiving somehow mangles the encoding and produces gibberish. Obviously this is not a good thing... Does anyone have any experience/comments about this? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Glen Malley Systems Developer | | glen(a)interq.or.jp interQ Corporation - System Division | | (cell)090-4398-7951 Shibuya Infoss Tower 10F | | Tokyo, Japan | | http://www.interq.ad.jp 150-0031 | -----------------------------------------------------------------

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