Mailman 3 August 1999 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Exim] Exim and mailman - HOWTO
by Nigel Metheringham 26 Aug '99

26 Aug '99

NM> ## List existence checks are done by seeing if the file NM> ## /home/mailman/lists/<list>/listinfo.html NM> ## exists. Harald.Meland(a)usit.uio.no said: > First, a warning: This relies on internal Mailman directory > structures, which is liable to change in future versions (e.g. to > avoid collision problems with several lists having the same > (localpart) name when housing multiple mail domains in one Mailman > installation). That is very much the case. However when that happens all MTA configs are likely to need changing anyhow - in general aliases don't carry domain information either :-) So people need to be aware of it, but I can't generalise to cater for it yet. > Next, wouldn't checking for the existence of config.db be better? The > Mailman code goes to great lengths to ensure that a valid config.db is > present at all times -- I'm not sure (haven't checked) that the same > is true for listinfo.html. Besides, internal parts of Mailman (like > the listinfo overview page) uses existance of config.db as a (first) > test of whether the list is present or not. I'll modify my checks to do that. > I believe Barry mentioned some plans for a grand bounce detection > overhaul post Mailman-1.0. I'm aware that this has been mentioned. I've also got some comments in the bug tracking system on bounce recognition. I'll take this up with Barry and consider getting my hands properly dirty with code too - although with Python I'm going to need someone else to check what I'm doing until I really get the hang of it :-) Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Re: [Exim] Exim and mailman - HOWTO
by Harald Meland 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

[Nigel Metheringham] > ## List existence checks are done by seeing if the file > ## /home/mailman/lists/<list>/listinfo.html > ## exists. First, a warning: This relies on internal Mailman directory structures, which is liable to change in future versions (e.g. to avoid collision problems with several lists having the same (localpart) name when housing multiple mail domains in one Mailman installation). Next, wouldn't checking for the existence of config.db be better? The Mailman code goes to great lengths to ensure that a valid config.db is present at all times -- I'm not sure (haven't checked) that the same is true for listinfo.html. Besides, internal parts of Mailman (like the listinfo overview page) uses existance of config.db as a (first) test of whether the list is present or not. There also is a potential problem with this configuration that ought to be mentioned: If you are housing several mail domains (e.g. foo.domain and bar.domain) within the same Mailman installation, creating a list which should only be reachable at <gazonk(a)foo.domain> is impossible. The list will also be reachable as <gazonk(a)bar.domain> as only the localpart of the mailinglist address is used for the file existance test. Other than that, it is a nice hack. Thanks :) > - Mailman's detection of exim bounces needs improving - it really > should make use of the extra header information that exim > provides. It also should recognise and deal with or ignore > delay warning messages. I believe Barry mentioned some plans for a grand bounce detection overhaul post Mailman-1.0. > Hope this stuff helps, and it would be nice if it could be > integrated into the exim and/or mailman FAQs. I'll try to whip something up. -- Harald

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FW: Cron <mailman@s1> /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
by Tauren Mills 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

And here is another error. We have plenty of memory on this server (0.5GB RAM, 182MB free, 60MB free cache). Any clues? Thanks, Tauren -----Original Message----- From: Cron Daemon [mailto:root@s1.servlets.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 10:56 AM To: mailman(a)servlets.net Subject: Cron <mailman@s1> /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/gate_news Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 27, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 37, in ? from MailCommandHandler import MailCommandHandler MemoryError

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Cron error
by Tauren Mills 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

I just got an email sent to the "mailman" email address with this subject: Subject: Cron <mailman@s1> /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/run_queue And this was in the body: Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/run_queue", line 46, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/cron/run_queue", line 41, in main OutgoingQueue.processQueue() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/OutgoingQueue.py", line 114, in processQueue Utils.TrySMTPDelivery(recip,sender,text,full_fname) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py", line 273, in TrySMTPDelivery l.write("To %s:\n" % recipient) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Logging/StampedLogger.py", line 59, in write stamp = time.strftime("%b %d %H:%M:%S %Y ", MemoryError Any ideas what is wrong? Thanks, Tauren

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make test error on fcntl
by Ryan Thomas 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

./configure # went fine make # went fine except "make[1]: [add2lib] Error 1 (ignored)" make install # went fine (no errors) Later ran into a problem with fcntl. So, I ran make test and get this: test test_fcntl crashed -- exceptions.IOError : [Errno 22] Invalid argument Advice? This is Mac OS X Server. -Ryan

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mass password send?
by J C Lawrence 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Barry A Warsaw <bwarsaw(a)cnri.reston.va.us> wrote: >>>>>> "FF" == Fish Flowers <fish(a)bsd.uchicago.edu> writes: > Yikes, no! Just run cron/mailpasswds from the command line. A more simple question: Somehow I'm in the curious state of having members that are not subscribed, don't appear on the members list, don't receive list posts, but do receive the monthly password reminders... Is there a way to export the subscriber list from a mailman list? Then I could recreate the config.db and re-add the members (sans the ghost). -- J C Lawrence Life: http://www.kanga.nu/ Home: claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) Work (Linux/IA64): claw(a)varesearch.com ... Beware of cromagnons wearing chewing gum and palm pilots ...

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WANTED gid 80, GOT gid 2108.
by Riho Kurg 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

Hi there: I'm trying to run Mailman list processor a few days here already, but no luck yet. Below is short description on operations. First off: our site is running qmail and I am not intended to change this. Right now I'm running ezmlm for list, it works very well, but management just hurts :) Inventory here: # rpm -q python python-1.5.1-5 # uname -a Linux jenka.asosise 2.0.36 #1 Tue Dec 29 13:11:13 EST 1998 i686 unknown OK, downloaded Mailman from www.list.org, untarred, RTFM and go! I need to set mail-gid and cgi-gid # id -g alias 80 # ./configure --with-mail-gid=80 --with-cgi-gid=99 # make; make install Perfect, new-list works just well, as does CGI-interface. # cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-info |preline /home/mailman/mail/wrapper post info OK, let's try to send mail.. oops, no action. Quick look to qmail and mail.* logfiles: qmail: 935501275.051940 new msg 10187 935501275.051960 info msg 10187: bytes 214 from <riho(a)we.aso.ee> qp 26804 uid 0935501275.116318 starting delivery 16013: msg 10187 to local info(a)aso.ee 935501275.116348 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 mail.*: Aug 24 13:15:59 jenka Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 80, GOT gid 2108. (Reconfigure to take 2108?) Hmm, there's no gid 2108 on system at all. Even no uid. I'm lost! What's wrong? Thanks in advance, Rx.

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Mass password send?
by Fish Flowers 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

Hmm... I seem to have mass-subscribed a whole bunch of users, but asked mailman not to send new-subscriber emails. Now it becomes apparent that we need those passwords... what's the best way of getting them out to the users? There doesn't seem to be an option to send a monthly email reminder early... Is the only way to resolve this problem to unsubscribe everyone and then manually resubscribe them? Sigh... Thanks -- Fish Flowers.

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*UN*subscribing in bulk
by Craig Kelley 25 Aug '99

25 Aug '99

We have custom user setup scripts to setup groups, netscape and other miscellaneous items. Any user can belong to any mailing list, which creates a problem when we remove users from the system. We used to use SmartList which would keep e-mail addresses in a plain text file and when any user was deleted it was simple to grep for them and unsubscribe them. I have adapted the user deletion scripts to use `list_members` to enummerate the users in a group and then `remove_members` to take them out. This takes *forever*; every time we remove a user (and we have hundreds to do in bulk plus the occasional dozen which are done by hand) it must perform `list_members` on every list (we have close to 40). Is there another way to do this? Can I count on grep <email> listpath/config.db to work in future versions, or is list_members the only guaranteed way?

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Re: make test error on fcntl
by Ryan Thomas 24 Aug '99

24 Aug '99

Oops. This was Python compile problem, not mailman. Sorry. -Ryan ./configure # went fine make # went fine except "make[1]: [add2lib] Error 1 (ignored)" make install # went fine (no errors) Later ran into a problem with fcntl. So, I ran make test and get this: test test_fcntl crashed -- exceptions.IOError : [Errno 22] Invalid argument Advice? This is Mac OS X Server. -Ryan

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