Mailman 3 October 2000 - Mailman-Users

Message has implicit destination - ???
by Nate Amsden 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

searched the web, searched the sourcecode and can't find out what this means or how to fix it. most systems can send mail fine to the lists but one sun system that needs to cannot, and everytime it tries, I get that message from mailman: As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List: some(a)list.at.my.company From: someuser(a)somehost.com Subject: (no subject) Reason: Message has implicit destination the user is subscribed. what can i do to get around/fix this problem? this happens when doing : echo "testing" | mail some(a)list.at.my.company the client machine is a solaris 2.6(sparc) running sendmail 8.9.1 from sunfreeware.com, i have it masqerading as itself. if i don't masqerade it shows mails comming from user@hostname not user(a)hostname.domainname. and mailman doesnt want to let a subscriber subscribe as user@hostname. running mailman 2.0beta1 thanks! nate -- Nate Amsden System Administrator GraphOn http://www.graphon.com

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Different web and mail host names
by Mark Carroll 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Is there an easy way to set things so that mailman offers one host name in web URLs, and another in e-mail addresses? It seems to use the same for both at the moment. -- Mark

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Re: [Mailman-Users] weird problems; a cry for help
by Dan Mick 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Argh. The problem is that George's digest header had the string '% d' in it, and the 'string-mod' operation was trying to treat that as an integer format field. (the text was "10% discount"). Erk. I think this is a Python bug; I think it should not treat '% d' the same as '%d'; but I'm having a hard time discovering anything formally specifying the format of a 'printf-like string interpolation function of the % operator' in the Python documentation; any help appreciated. But in any event, if anyone sees anything similar, suspect '%' characters in your header/footer text. George, a workaround seems to be to change that to "10%% discount", but that only works out right if you *know* the '%' operator is going to be applied. In this case, you know it is, so it should be safe. But make no mistake: Python really blind-sided you on this one, IMO. > I feel like I'm talking to myself. :-) I guess that since no one has > responded, this must be too wacked out to diagnose. Should I delete > the list and re-create it? If I do that, is there any way to salvage > either the member list or the archived messages? > > Anxious for a reponse, > George > > > George Dinwiddie said: > > > > I'm a mailman newbie and hardly know where to begin. I've got a > > couple of lists running at www.alberg30.org in a virtual hosting > > environment where mailman is shared by all the domains hosted on > > the machine. Everything was hunky-dory until... > > > > Well, first the ISP had some sort of crash. Then they moved > > from RedHat 6.0 to 7.0. Somewhere along the line (maybe t > > the same time) they installed a newer version (or versions) > > of mailman. I know that it was beta 6 but is now 2.0rc1. > > > > First, I had problems with the "welcome" message being sent > > with the "Reply-to" header pointing to the list, instead of > > the admin address. Then all mail stopped. They got one > > list working again, but the other, the most important one, > > is really bollixed. > > > > logs/error is filling up with: > > Oct 25 18:04:00 2000 (32336) Delivery exception: __int__ > > Oct 25 18:04:00 2000 (32336) Traceback (innermost last): > > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline > > func(mlist, msg, msgdata) > > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 121, in process > > inject_digest(mlist, digestfile, topicsfile) > > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 170, in inject_digest > > msg = digest.asMIME() > > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 242, in asMIME > > return self.Present(mime=1) > > File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 279, in Present > > lines.append(self.__mlist.digest_header % self.TemplateRefs()) > > AttributeError: __int__ > > > > logs/digest is filling up with stuff like: > > Oct 25 18:09:00 2000 (20560) Public-list v 16 - 2035 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 18 text, 0 disabled) > > Oct 25 18:09:00 2000 (20560) Public-list v 16 - 2036 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 18 text, 0 disabled) > > Oct 25 18:09:01 2000 (20560) Public-list v 16 - 2037 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 18 text, 0 disabled) > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2038 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 18 text, 0 disabled) > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2039 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 18 text, 0 disabled) > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2040 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 18 text, 0 disabled) > > Oct 25 18:10:01 2000 (1315) Public-list v 16 - 2041 msgs, 22 recips (4 mime, 18 text, 0 disabled) > > > > logs/qrunner has stuff like: > > Oct 25 16:17:02 2000 (30248) Could not acquire qrunner lock > > Oct 25 16:18:02 2000 (7653) Could not acquire qrunner lock > > Oct 25 16:19:01 2000 (14921) Could not acquire qrunner lock > > Oct 25 16:20:01 2000 (24286) Could not acquire qrunner lock > > Oct 25 16:21:01 2000 (19783) Could not acquire qrunner lock > > but I'm not sure it's related to the stuff in logs/digest. > > > > lists/public-list/next-digest is filling up with many copies of a few messages. Likewise, > > lists/public-list/next-digest-topics is filling up with the same 4 topics in rotation. > > > > Any ideas on what the problem might be? Better yet, any ideas on the fix? > > > > Please copy me on the reply. > > > > Thanks, > > George Dinwiddie > > > > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > George Dinwiddie gdinwiddie(a)min.net > > The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span those hours spent in > > sailing. NEW URL => http://www.Alberg30.org/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > George Dinwiddie gdinwiddie(a)min.net > The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span those hours spent in > sailing. NEW URL => http://www.Alberg30.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Mailman basic questions
by Donald Pine 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

Can someone answer the following basic questions? (I couldn't find them in admin manual.) (Note: I am new to list management.) Can Mailman do "announcement" only emails? Can Mailman use an existing Oracle database? Can Mailman send both text and html emails? Tnx for any help. Sincerely, Donald W. Pine Manager, News Operations APBnews.com - Crime, Justice, Safety (sm) 65 Broadway, 17th Floor New York, NY 10006-2503 PHONE: 212-430-6024 FAX: 212-658-9492 E-MAIL: Donald.Pine(a)APBnews.com

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forwarded message from Guido van Rossum
by barry＠wooz.org 31 Oct '00

31 Oct '00

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Sendmail says "Data format error"
by Rainer Strobel 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Hi Anybody who knows what's wrong when sendmail says: "DSN:Data format error" while mailman is trying to deliver the mail to the list-members ? So long Rainer Strobel

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I can't get subscription response mail.
by Xiao Bing 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

I have installed a mailman system on RedHat6.2 OS. I want to test it.So I sent a subscription request to it. Then I receive a msg like "Listname-- confirmation of subscription -- request 770815". I reply the msg according to it's confirmation rules. But I received a response msg like this: ____________________________________________________ This is the Postfix program at host dev.oztime.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please contact <postmaster(a)dev_oztime.com> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program <oztime_tech-request(a)dev.oztime.com>: Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd oztime_tech". Command output: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 500, GOT gid 99. (Reconfigure to take 99?) ______________________________________________________ I have reconfigured mailman since I have read some advice from install manual. % python -c'import os; print os.getgid()' ->I got user "mailman"'s gid(500). This should print out the group id that mailman should be configured to expect when the mail wrapper programs are run. Call it "thegid". Rebuild mailman with % ./configure --with-mail-gid=thegid ->I thegid should be user "mailman"'s gid(500). ->99 is nobody. But still no use.What 's the reason?Who can help me? Jack

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Re: RC1 Seems to work but incoming mails are ignored
by Michael Radziej 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

On Fri, Oct 27, mailman-users-request(a)python.org wrote: > Andreas Gruener wrote: > > > cool answer - am I supposed to grep for cron (I suppose you're talking > > about the schedule daemon) in all faqs, readme, and docs, or is this > > some kind of riddle. > > > > I'd really appreciate a little bit more details... > > So, let me give you a bit more detail about this mysterious 'cron' Dan Mick > suggested: READ THE FINE MANUAL! (I prefer not to be rude folks) Andreas, play it cool, man. You're right, but I've seen discussions like this a lot. Sometimes a poor soul is really just confused and missed one particular sentence in an INSTALL or FAQ. Let's assume this is the case. Let's be userfriendly. The INSTALL (mine is from beta6, yours may differ) file says: - Set up the crontab entries. Mailman runs a number of cron jobs for its basic functionality. You need to be user `mailman' (or whatever you specified as --with-ownername) to perform this step. Add $prefix/cron/crontab.in as a crontab entry by executing these commands: % su - mailman % cd $prefix/cron % crontab crontab.in If you've just missed that paragraph, well, go ahead. If you missed the whole INSTALL file, read it carefully. It's not very long and contains a lot of essential information. You will make a lot of people angry if you don't read it and expect the list members to read it for you. All the CAPITAL LETTERS documentation files are interesting. Say, are you used to install software on Unix boxes? > matter, put yourself in their shoes. You write an instructions page, and > people just ignore it. How would that make you feel? Andreas, you are still perfectly right. Cheers, Michael-reads-documentation-files-for-you -- ============================================================================= Michael Radziej - currently in Oakland - SuSE GmbH, Interne EDV Phone +1 510 628 3380 extension 5071 Michael.Radziej(a)suse.de Cellular ("Handy") +1 49 1795977810 ============================================================================= reply goes to list | reply goes to sender -------------------+--------------------- oaktech | oakland profserv | users custserv-talk | suna supporters | talk | ----------------------------------------- SuSE.com mailing list truth table Not subject to modifications whatsoever.

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Can't go un-moderated
by Ken Bandy 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

Hi, I am trying to use Mailman, version 2.0, beta 6. This is installed on the server our web site is on. I am trying to set a list up to be un-moderated, however I can't. On the "Privacy Options" page, I have checked the "no" button on the question asking if posts must be approved by an administrator and submitted the change, however when I post to the list, the message is put in que with this message being sent to the poster: "Your mail to 'Test' with the subject blah-blah Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message has implicit destination Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision." Anyone have any clues as to how I can change this to an un-moderated list, or is there a problem with my server set up? Thanks. -- Ken Bandy IATSE Local 30 Indianapolis, IN http://iatse30.org webmaster(a)iatse30.org

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Adding Messages to the Archives
by Sarah K. Miller 30 Oct '00

30 Oct '00

We are transitioning several lists from Egroups and other places to one centralized location using Mailman. Is there a way to add additional messages to the archives without having to send them to the list itself? -- Sarah

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