Mailman 3 October 2000 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't go un-moderated
by Ken Bandy 29 Oct '00

29 Oct '00

Gee, Dan, I dunno. What do you think it means when I say that I sent it "To:" the list as named? And what do you think I mean when I say I don't want to open my list up to spammers? I didn't know this was a riddle list. Dan Mick wrote: > Ken Bandy wrote: > > > > Hi, I am trying to use Mailman, version 2.0, beta 6. This is installed > > on the server our web site is on. I am trying to set a list up to be > > un-moderated, however I can't. On the "Privacy Options" page, I have > > checked the "no" button on the question asking if posts must be approved > > by an administrator and submitted the change, however when I post to the > > list, the message is put in que with this message being sent to the > > poster: > > > > "Your mail to 'Test' with the subject > > blah-blah > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > > > The reason it is being held: > > > > Message has implicit destination > > This is a huge clue here. What do you think it means about the message > you sent? > > What do you think the two options below "Must posts be approved by an administrator" > control? > > > > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > > notification of the moderator's decision." > > > > Anyone have any clues as to how I can change this to an un-moderated > > list, or is there a problem with my server set up? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Ken Bandy > > IATSE Local 30 > > Indianapolis, IN > > http://iatse30.org > > webmaster(a)iatse30.org > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Ken Bandy IATSE Local 30 Indianapolis, IN http://iatse30.org webmaster(a)iatse30.org

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Mime in subject ... more ÄÅÖäåö
by Seppo Kallio 29 Oct '00

29 Oct '00

I think at www.python.org the "Letter List" is showing mime in subject line correctly, but not in "Next Message" link. I and www.python.org have pipermail 0.05 (Mailman version) Any European users? Hallo? Do you have this problem solved? -- Seppo Kallio kallio(a)cc.jyu.fi http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio 014 2603606

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I can't get "Welcom" msg.
by Xiao Bing 29 Oct '00

29 Oct '00

I have installed Mailman in my RedHat6.2 OS.I sent a subscription to the maillist with a testing email account. Then I receive a msg like "Listname-- confirmation of subscription -- request 770815". I reply the msg according to it's confirmation rules. But I can't get a response msg like "Welcome to the ListName mailing list!" What 's the matter?Anyone can help me? Jack

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Archiving failure
by tim＠maths.tcd.ie 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Our mailman system (running under FreeBSD) states (untruly) that every archives is empty, because -- I think -- it fails to write out the required index.html files. We get this (repeatedly) in ~mailman/logs/error =============================================== Oct 28 15:40:07 2000 (47279) Archive file access failure: /local/lib/mailman/archives/private/sf.mbox/sf.mbox (0, 'Error') Oct 28 15:40:07 2000 (47279) Delivery exception: (0, 'Error') Oct 28 15:40:07 2000 (47279) Traceback (innermost last): File "/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToArchive.py", line 47, in process mlist.ArchiveMail(msg, msgdata) File "/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 189, in ArchiveMail self.__archive_to_mbox(msg) File "/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 160, in __archive_to_mbox mbox.AppendMessage(post) File "/local/lib/mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py", line 41, in AppendMessage self.fp.seek(-1, 2) IOError: (0, 'Error') =============================================== Looking at ~mailman/Mailman/Mailbox.py the offending line seems to be the seek(-1,2) in the following, which appears to be an (odd) way of testing if the file is empty. =============================================== # msg should be an rfc822 message or a subclass. def AppendMessage(self, msg): # Check the last character of the file and write a newline if it isn't # a newline (but not at the beginning of an empty file. try: self.fp.seek(-1, 2) except IOError, e: if e.errno <> errno.EINVAL: raise # the file must be empty else: if self.fp.read(1) <> '\n': self.fp.write('\n') # seek to the last char of the mailbox self.fp.seek(1, 2) =============================================== I don't know anything about python -- maybe appearing in logs/error is not that bad? Any suggestions of advice gratefully received.

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archives
by Sally Duros 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Hello - I am not a techie, but I am using MailMan. I have been trying to set things up on my list-serve so that members can view the archives. I would also like to be able to collect actual names of individuals using the list - I am collecting this info for a reunion. I donb't know how to do either of these things. I have perused FAQs and archives manual and am still lost. Any advice? Should I move to a different program like Topica to get this going? ______________________________________________________________ Sally Duros Executive Communication (vox) 773. 327. 9377 (fax) 773. 327. 9395 You can view my qualifications at http://www.SDuros.com

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members cannot change their preferences
by Johnny Fuerst 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Hello, I was wondering if anyone may know how to rsolve the following problem: When at the http address for a user to change their settings, I can't save changes I make, and I *do use the password that I have specified. And the web site form will respond saying: Macosx-users Results You must supply a password to change options. Macosx-users list run by johnny(a)cathat.net Thanks for any help that can be provided! Sincerely, Johnny -- On Behalf Of: Johnny Fuerst, Governor ................ governor(a)cathat.net Opinions stated in this message are mine and mine alone, and do not necessarily represent those of my ISP/employer! .period. ------------------------------------------------------------ 'I Desire Compassion, and not a Sacrifice.' 'La Vida E Bella' ____________________________ Random Quote: A student who changes the course of history is probably taking an exam. johnny(a)cathat.net

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request
by Dan Mick 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

> Attachment stripping, for when stupid twits send images through > the list (Yup, I know about the size limiting, it'd still be a > nice feature by itself). This is really really effective for me, added to "hold posts with header..." Content-type:.*multipart/.* :.*text/html.* :.*text/enriched.* :.*text/x-vcard.* Content-Disposition:.*attachment I think I've seen 2 attachments get through in about 10000 messages. And we have some idiots and some persistent attachment posters. (it stops HTML attachments too.)

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Greetings
by Robert Lee 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

I am attempting to get my new list up and functioning. Everything was set up as described in the INSTALL. Things seem to be headed in the right direction. The /var/log/maillog shows: Oct 27 17:11:52 host sendmail[74138]: e9S0BqP74138: from=<root(a)host.domain>, size=277, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<Pine.BSF.4.21.0010271711470.74136-100000(a)host.domain>, proto=ESMTP, relay=root@localhost Oct 27 17:11:53 host sendmail[74139]: e9S0BqP74138: to="|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post leefam", ctladdr=<leefam(a)leefam.org> (1/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30023, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent And the /usr/local/mailman/logs/error is empty. My problem is that no messages are being delivered to the members of the list. When I looked at /usr/local/mailman/qfiles, I noticed that that's where all of my emails were. Why are they being queue'd instead of sent out? I appologize if this is a common problem, or even if it's a problem on my part. I'd love to RTFM if there is documentation that applies to this scenario. I have read the FAQ, and other docs I could see on list.org Thanks ahead of time, Robert

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Re: [Mailman-Users] problems installing
by Dan Mick 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

> > Have either of you checked other logs, like error? > > > /var/log/maillog shows this: > > Oct 26 15:47:00 www sendmail[9366]: PAA09366: to=<mdeza(a)tesora.com>, delay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, stat=queued > > several times, one for each member of the list. stat=queued? Does this have > something to do with the SMTP config? I believe that just means that, rather than connecting immediately, your sendmail has put the mail request on its queue (visible with mailq). I'm not 100% sure what all the reasons are for this; perhaps "max number of sendmails already running" or something. But it's worth checking to see if your sendmail ever sends those; do something like "grep PAA09366" in /var/log/maillog to see what the disposition of that message was, and/or look at the mailq output. Perhaps your sendmail is gagging. But either way, it looks like that message has been handed over to sendmail; if it was a Mailman message, the problem's outside of Mailman, most likely. > /var/log/cron: > > mailman (10/27-22:07:00-14628) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/share/mailman/cron/qrunner) > mailman (10/27-22:08:01-14630) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/share/mailman/cron/qrunner) > mailman (10/27-22:09:00-14633) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /usr/share/mailman/cron/qrunner) looks like qrunner is indeed running every minute, again pointing away from Mailman. > > Can either of you run qrunner under something like truss or strace? > > (on Solaris, truss python ~mailman/cron/qrunner will run qrunner once under > > system-call tracing, so you can see what it's doing) > > > > Running python -v ~mailman/cron/qrunner might be worth a try too > > > in my case, it seems normal, isn't it? Yes, looks fine. It should be noted, of course, that all qrunner does is clean out ~mailman/qfiles; if nothing is there, the mail has left Mailman's hands.

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Can I alter list configs "by hand"?
by tim＠maths.tcd.ie 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

Is it possible eg for the list-owner to accept postings wihtout going through a browser? I own a large number of lists, and although I have set open posting I am still asked to verify that I accept postings. Basically I would like to be able to write a short Perl script which would say "Yes" to them all. There are other places too where a text interface might be an advantage.

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