Mailman 3 December 2000 - Mailman-Users

changing addy
by Meff Blake Dec. 31, 2000

Dec. 31, 2000

Hi Folks: Happy New Year. Hey, I've been trying to get my addy changed through the list, but it hasn't happened. I finally got the Christianlists page, but I still can't get it to change the mailbox. I don't want to unsub/resub, nor do I need to change passwords. Can you help me? Thanks Meff Blake I want to change from c_blake(a)email.msn.com to meffblake(a)hotmail.com Again, Thanks

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Mandrake 7.2 install problem
by Roger Buck Dec. 31, 2000

Dec. 31, 2000

Mailman 2.0 installation hangs during conftest (using Mailman tarball v2.0 and from mailman-2.0-1mdk.rpm binaries/source). The rpm will install but will hang when run. The src.rpm hangs on the conftest - same problem as install from source. Running the command: # python reports python 1.5.2 (#1 Sept 30 2000 GCC 2.95.3 on linux 386) I have tried re-intsalling python-1.5.2-12mdk.i586.rpm and associated packages but with no luck. Any hints gratefully accepted. Does anyone have Mailman installed and working on Mandrake 7.2? R.

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install trouble on Mac OS X PB...
by Tom Moore Dec. 31, 2000

Dec. 31, 2000

Well, after finally wrestling my OS X Server system into running the very useful Mailman program, I've dumped it in favor of the Mac OS X Public Beta, and the fun is starting all over. I'm running into an odd error, one that most likely has a very simple fix. I get the following: -------------------- [rock:OpenUp/mailman_0/mailman-2.0] root# ./configure loading cache ./config.cache checking for --with-python... no checking for python... (cached) /usr/local/bin/python checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python version... 2.0 checking for a BSD compatible install... (cached) /usr/bin/install -c checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes checking for true... (cached) /usr/bin/true checking for --without-gcc... no checking for gcc... (cached) cc checking whether the C compiler (cc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (cc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether cc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking whether #! works in shell scripts... (cached) yes checking for --with-var-prefix... no checking for --with-username... mailman checking for mailman UID... ./configure: permission denied: conftest.py [1152] /usr/local/bin/python: can't open file 'conftest.py' cat: conftest.out: No such file or directory configure: error: ***** No "mailman" user found! ***** Your system must have a "mailman" user defined ***** (usually in your /etc/passwd file). Please see the INSTALL ***** file for details. [rock:OpenUp/mailman_0/mailman-2.0] root# -------------------- I do indeed have a "mailman" user... I'm guessing that it's a file permission thing rather than a username problem, but God knows I'm no expert. When I take out that section from the configure file, it skips down to the next section, has apparent trouble opening conftest.py, and tells me that I don't, for example, have a group named "mailman,' which I do. Oddly, when I try to install with-username=root, it actually works. Any other user name fails. Many thanks for your help. Tom Moore -- Tom Moore President, Landslide Design tom.moore(a)landslidedesign.com 11 Forest Ave., Rockville, MD 20850 phone: 301.762.0627 fax: 301.762.5156

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mandrake 7.2 install problem
by Roger Buck Dec. 31, 2000

Dec. 31, 2000

Thanks to all those who responded to the python hang problem (see below) when using Mandrake 7.2 - here's a quick solution, but no explanation of why it works <grin> Firstly, the openwall secure kernel patches do NOT cause the problem per se - I have installed multiple clean kernels and headers (source) and tested with various levels of security to confirm that. The Mailman install-time gid and cgi ownership settings have no affect omn the outcome. Also, this is NOT the "restricted hardlinks" problem (see Mailman README.LINUX) using secure kernel). The problem only seems to occur when a user chooses an "expert" or some other non minimalist option (including an elevated security option) at time of installing Mandrake. If you run into the problem described below (python hangs indefinitley) then the solution may be to run: /usr/share/msec/custom.sh and turn off (just say "no") the "libsafe stack ovberflow protection" option. Turning the option on/off is sufficient to reproduce/solve the problem in our case. Does anyone know a link for bug report to Mandrake on this (I couldn't find an obvious link at http://linuxmandrake.com/ )? Happy New Year and thanks to Mailman team for some great code, R. > Roger Buck wrote: > > Mailman 2.0 installation hangs during conftest (using Mailman tarball > > v2.0 and from mailman-2.0-1mdk.rpm binaries/source). The rpm will > > install but will hang when run. The src.rpm hangs on the conftest - same > > problem as install from source. > > > > Running the command: > > > > # python > > > > reports python 1.5.2 (#1 Sept 30 2000 GCC 2.95.3 on linux 386) > > > > I have tried re-intsalling python-1.5.2-12mdk.i586.rpm and associated > > packages but with no luck. > > > > Any hints gratefully accepted. > > > > Does anyone have Mailman installed and working on Mandrake 7.2?

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Re: config_list
by Kenneth Jacker Dec. 31, 2000

Dec. 31, 2000

marc> On Tue, Dec 26, 2000 at 02:11:25PM -0500, Kenneth Jacker marc> wrote: >> I'd like to use "config_list" to transfer list ALPHA's >> configuration to a new list BETA. Is this the recommended >> procedure? >> >> >> 1) bin/config_list -o config.ALPHA ALPHA >> >> 2) cp config.ALPHA config.BETA >> >> 3) Use an editor to change all occurrences of "ALPHA" in >> "config.BETA" to "BETA" >> >> 4) bin/newlist BETA >> >> 5) bin/config_list -i config.BETA BETA marc> You will lose your list membership if you do that. Hmmm ... you mean that the members in ALPHA will not be automatically added to BETA? If that is the problem, I'll be OK since the BETA list membership is independent of ALPHA's. Any other advice/suggestions? Thanks for your reply, -Kenneth

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Attachments
by J.D.K. Chipps Dec. 31, 2000

Dec. 31, 2000

Is there anyway to strip attachments from posts?

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(no subject)
by roger＠ninthave.net Dec. 30, 2000

Dec. 30, 2000

Hi, Is it possible, or will it ever be possible to download attachments from the archives instead of seeing the encoding stuff? thanks, Roger

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Buglet or Bozo? Problems with the /mailman/admin/(listname)/members (ie, membership management admin) page
by Scott Brown Dec. 30, 2000

Dec. 30, 2000

Yes, it does seem to be my localhost proxy that is getting around the SUEXEC... It's not passing the "?...." off to the proxy request for some reason (anyone know why???) > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Mick [mailto:Dan.Mick@west.sun.com] > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 4:47 PM > To: scott-brown(a)home.com > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Buglet or Bozo? Problems with the > /mailman/admin/(listname)/members (ie, membership management > admin) page > > > Can you get it to log what it passes in the environment to > the CGI, to make certain > Mailman is getting the right info? If not, you could > instrument the Python code to > log some things without too much effort... > > Scott Brown wrote: > > > > My server works just peachy with other routines which pass > data on the url. > > My own site runs PHP for most of it's pages, and passes > info on the URL > > fine. UBB is set up on the domain which is experiencing > this mailman > > problem, and it uses data on the URL for cgi requests extensively. > > > > The only unique thing about the mailman setup is that it's > proxied (but not > > cached - There's a "NoCache *" directive in the httpd.conf) > in order to get > > around SUEXEC. (This also means that mailman loses track > of which domain > > it's working under, so there's a few references to > localhost in there, but > > to my mind, that shouldnt cause havok with passing of, or > interpretation of > > cgi parameters) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dan Mick [mailto:Dan.Mick@west.sun.com] > > > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 3:22 PM > > > To: scott-brown(a)home.com > > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Buglet or Bozo? Problems with the > > > /mailman/admin/(listname)/members (ie, membership management > > > admin) page > > > > > > > > > That's pretty weird. I'd test the web server with a telnet > > > to port 80 and a manual > > > request; something very strange is going on. > > > > > > Scott Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > Not for me...it's like it ignores anything after the ? in > > > the URL when > > > > Mailman is parsing it. This is also happening when I click > > > on the "details" > > > > links inside the admin forms... a the page comes back with > > > a new url in the > > > > browser window - but no difference in the information shown. > > > > > > > > > Does "shift-reload" (or whatever makes your particular > > > > > browser ignore its cache > > > > > and issue a "please really reget this page" request) make any > > > > > difference? > > > > > > > > > > Bek Oberin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott Brown wrote: > > > > > > > When the list admin (or I, with the site password) go > > > > > into this page, and > > > > > > > try to select a different chunk of users to display on > > > > > the page, the chunk > > > > > > > never changes, it's always the first 30 addresses > > > that are shown. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had this problem off and on. Clearing out the > cookies and > > > > > > the cache and going back again the next morning has > > > helped, but I > > > > > > don't actually know how to fix it or anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > At least it's not just you :-/. > > > > > > > > > > > > bekj > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > : > --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- > > > > > > : gossamer(a)tertius.net.au http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ > > > > > : I was just taken to wondering about why we, in this culture, > > > > > : think that we can tame people completely and not leave them > > > > > : broken. Maybe that's why we have so many broken people and > > > > > : broken relationships - and why many of us are simply wild > > > > > : women. -- Callahan, boychicks-l > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > > > > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > >

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Abnormal problem with mailman.
by Jason Dec. 30, 2000

Dec. 30, 2000

Yeh I installed mailman via rpm on my slackware system (really really long explanation... because it wouldn't compile on the box... something about ginstall) anyhow... Now I'm getting errors with the GID I was wondering how I would go abouts changing the GID of either Mailman or Of the cgi user? If anyone would know how to do that. Because I can't recompile it with --cgi-gid.... because it won't compile... thats why I installed it via rpm (slackware package manager actually)... Any ideas on how to help me out would be appreciated ... Thanks again :)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Buglet or Bozo? Problems with the /mailman/admin/(listname)/members (ie, membership management admin) page
by Scott Brown Dec. 29, 2000

Dec. 29, 2000

Not for me...it's like it ignores anything after the ? in the URL when Mailman is parsing it. This is also happening when I click on the "details" links inside the admin forms... a the page comes back with a new url in the browser window - but no difference in the information shown. > Does "shift-reload" (or whatever makes your particular > browser ignore its cache > and issue a "please really reget this page" request) make any > difference? > > Bek Oberin wrote: > > > > Scott Brown wrote: > > > When the list admin (or I, with the site password) go > into this page, and > > > try to select a different chunk of users to display on > the page, the chunk > > > never changes, it's always the first 30 addresses that are shown. > > > > I've had this problem off and on. Clearing out the cookies and > > the cache and going back again the next morning has helped, but I > > don't actually know how to fix it or anything. > > > > At least it's not just you :-/. > > > > bekj > > > > -- > > : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- > > : gossamer(a)tertius.net.au http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ > > : I was just taken to wondering about why we, in this culture, > > : think that we can tame people completely and not leave them > > : broken. Maybe that's why we have so many broken people and > > : broken relationships - and why many of us are simply wild > > : women. -- Callahan, boychicks-l > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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