Mailman 3 May 2000 - Mailman-Users

forwarded message from Guido van Rossum
by bwarsaw＠python.org 31 May '00

31 May '00

Hi folks, I'm forwarding Guido's announcement to these lists. It's relevant here because part of what I am doing officially for BeOpen is work on Mailman. This is a very exciting move for all of us, and should be good for the Mailman community. As it relates to Mailman, nothing really changes. Mailman is and will remain GPL'd open source software. I'm concentrating on finishing up the 2.0 release and expect that to happen over the next several weeks. Currently, I'm sipping through a slow dialup, but expect to get upgraded to DSL as soon as the local phone company gets their act together. This should quicken the pace of my responses and checkins. Cheers, -Barry ------- start of forwarded message (RFC 934 encapsulation) ------- From: Guido van Rossum <guido(a)python.org> Sender: psa-members-announce-admin(a)python.org To: python-list(a)python.org (Python mailing list), python-announce(a)python.org, psa-members-announce(a)python.org Subject: [PSA MEMBERS ANNOUNCE] ANNOUNCEMENT: Python Development Team Moves to BeOpen.com Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:05:43 -0500 X-BeenThere: psa-members-announce(a)python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta3 To all Python users and developers: Python is growing rapidly. In order to take it to the next level, I've moved with my core development group to a new employer, BeOpen.com. BeOpen.com is a startup company with a focus on open source communities, and an interest in facilitating next generation application development. It is a natural fit for Python. At BeOpen.com I am the director of a new development team named PythonLabs. The team includes three of my former colleagues at CNRI: Fred Drake, Jeremy Hylton, and Barry Warsaw. Another familiar face will joins us shortly: Tim Peters. We have our own website (www.pythonlabs.com) where you can read more about us, our plans and our activities. We've also posted a FAQ there specifically about PythonLabs, our transition to BeOpen.com, and what it means for the Python community. What will change, and what will stay the same? First of all, Python will remain Open Source. In fact, everything we produce at PythonLabs will be released with an Open Source license. Also, www.python.org will remain the number one website for the Python community. CNRI will continue to host it, and we'll maintain it as a community project. What changes is how much time we have for Python. Previously, Python was a hobby or side project, which had to compete with our day jobs; at BeOpen.com we will be focused full time on Python development! This means that we'll be able to spend much more time on exciting new projects like Python 3000. We'll also get support for website management from BeOpen.com's professional web developers, and we'll work with their marketing department. Marketing for Python, you ask? Sure, why not! We want to grow the size of the Python user and developer community at an even faster pace than today. This should benefit everyone: the larger the community, the more resources will be available to all, and the easier it will be to find Python expertise when you need it. We're also planning to make commercial offerings (within the Open Source guidelines!) to help Python find its way into the hands of more programmers, especially in large enterprises where adoption is still lagging. There's one piece of bad news: Python 1.6 won't be released by June 1st. There's simply too much left to be done. We promise that we'll get it out of the door as soon as possible. By the way, Python 1.6 will be the last release from CNRI; after that, we'll issue Python releases from BeOpen.com. Oh, and to top it all off, I'm going on vacation. I'm getting married and will be relaxing on my honeymoon. For all questions about PythonLabs, write to pythonlabs-info(a)beopen.com. - --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________________________________________ PSA-Members-Announce mailing list PSA-Members-Announce(a)python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psa-members-announce ------- end -------

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mailman + cgatepro
by rrobino＠netgranite.net 31 May '00

31 May '00

Anyone already done the legwork to make Stalker's Communigate Pro work with mailman lists? Please email me privately as well as posting to the list if you have any information. If I don't hear from anyone I'll figure it out myself and post it back if I get a request to do so. TIA, -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Rick Robino mailto:rrobino@netgranite.net Sr. Development Engineer v. (503) 222-7706 NetGranite, Inc. http://www.netgranite.com/

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive conversion?
by Nigel Metheringham 30 May '00

30 May '00

lynnd(a)techangle.com said: > Does anyone know of any tools that can be used to: 1) integrate a > Majordomo archive into Mailman, 2) convert a Netscape mailbox into a > Mailman archive? the arch tool (in ~mailman/bin) should do both of these. Nigel. -- [ - Opinions expressed are personal and may not be shared by VData - ] [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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Archive conversion?
by Lynn Danielson 30 May '00

30 May '00

I'm moving some existing Majordomo lists to Mailman. One list has an archive, another does not. Does anyone know of any tools that can be used to: 1) integrate a Majordomo archive into Mailman, 2) convert a Netscape mailbox into a Mailman archive? Lynn Danielson

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Addressing
by Lynn Danielson 30 May '00

30 May '00

I'd like to get mailman/sendmail to use an alternate address in the the To: header. If I have a listserver on machine-A.com with a cname of machine-B.com and perhaps an alternate DNS of myhost.org, how can I configure mailman or sendmail to address messages to one of these alternate names? When I set up Mailman, I specified machine-B.com. This shows up on all of the Mailman web page interfaces. But when I receive mail from the list, it's always addressed "To: listname(a)machine-a.com" instead of "To: listname(a)machine-b.com". Any suggestions for how to fix this? Lynn Danielson

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Re: listname.mbox file missing From lines, archiving doesn't work
by KORN Andras 30 May '00

30 May '00

Hi, It seems we've been able to solve the problem: apparently it does have to do with qmail. Simply include preline in the mail alias of the list. I hacked up a small script to set up the mail aliases for new lists: --------------- #!/bin/sh cd /var/qmail/alias echo "|/usr/bin/preline /var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper post $1" >.qmail-$1 echo "|/usr/bin/preline /var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner $1" >.qmail-$1-admin echo "|/usr/bin/preline /var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd $1" >.qmail-$1-request ln .qmail-$1-admin .qmail-$1-owner ln .qmail-$1-admin .qmail-owner-$1 ---------------- Thanks to Gergely Madarasz for the idea. Andrew -- Andrew Korn (Korn Andras) <korn(a)chardonnay.math.bme.hu> Finger korn(a)chardonnay.math.bme.hu for pgp key. QOTD: Everyone is of some use - they can always serve as a negative example.

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listname.mbox file missing From lines, archiving doesn't work
by KORN Andras 30 May '00

30 May '00

Hi, I'm not subscribed to the list, so please cc: all messages to me at <korn(a)math.bme.hu>. Thanks. My problem is that all my lists' archive index.html files only contain the text 'currently, there are no archives'. Archiving is turned on and switched to public. The permissions are right (timestamps do change). I believe this may have to do with the fact that _all_ messages in the mbox file lack the preceding From line (they start with Received: lines). Using the perl script Doug Hughes posted earlier to add missing From lines is not an option (I'd have to run it each time a new message arrives). I use qmail. Maybe that has something to do with the problem? What can I do to remedy the situation? My mailman version is 2.0beta2, but as I've been having these difficulties since 0.99 or so, the version number does seem to be irrelevant. A similar problem was reported to the list in March 1999, but no one was able to come up with a solution that I could see. Andrew -- Andrew Korn (Korn Andras) <korn(a)chardonnay.math.bme.hu> Finger korn(a)chardonnay.math.bme.hu for pgp key. QOTD: Don't send any money, send priceless antiques.

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(no subject)
by sharmistha11＠123india.com 30 May '00

30 May '00

Hello I have installed zope on NT 4.0. I started the stand-alone Zserver, but everytime I give the password, it pops up the password input window again. In the /doc/webserver.txt file, I couldn't find any remedy for the (only PCGI and FastCgi are given there) stanalone Zserver. Can you help me out ? Regards sharmistha ______________________________________________________ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] bulk mailing gone in 2.0?
by Nigel Metheringham 30 May '00

30 May '00

Todd.Miller(a)courtesan.com said: > The NEWS file in 2.0beta states that "Mailman no longer contains a > bundled bulk-mailer" yet there is still the "Number of outgoing > connections to open at once" option available. Does mailman still > support splitting message submission up into multiple batches? First cut or so of the 2.0betas had a very simple straight injection interface to the MTA (choice of SMTP or sendmail CLI). As things have moved on this approach has caused problems (ie max number of recipients per MTA injection, need to queue messages under some circumstances, prevention of a deadly embrace with the MTA etc), and most of the old bulk mailer functionality is moving back in... There was quite a long discussion on this on the developers list last week - see the "Huge lists" thread. Nigel. -- [ - Opinions expressed are personal and may not be shared by VData - ] [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)VData.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ]

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time.mktime
by David Smead 30 May '00

30 May '00

I upgraded to Python 1.6a2 from 1.5.1 to use Mailman, and now I have a problem with an older program that calls time.mktime. It used to take a time tuple, but now I get an error that says it only takes a single argument. Does anyone know about this? Is there a better list to ask this question? Sincerely, David Smead http://www.amplepower.com. http://www.ampletech.com.

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