Mailman 3 August 2000 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to set clobber_date = 1 by default?
by Dan Mick Aug. 29, 2000

Aug. 29, 2000

> While I find it very regretable that clobber_date isn't set to 1 by default > (i.e. mailman trusts whatever date is thrown at it by the MUA, which often > causes completely ludicrous pages in web archives (Oct 2004 or 1990)), it's > only a misguided default and I should be able to change it, right? :-) > > Well, actually I didn't find anything in Defaults.py that would let me set > clobber_date to 1 by default. > > Did I miss anything or is that option absent?… [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] re: list admin server doesn't always respond?
by Dan Mick Aug. 29, 2000

Aug. 29, 2000

> >... Consider enabling lock debugging. > > ...how is this done, and what does it do? Add LIST_LOCK_DEBUGGING = 1 to mm_cfg.py, and you'll get messages to logs/locks about lock operations that can help diagnose the problem This diff to LockFile.py can provide even more info if that proves insufficient (adds a process name and args to the log entry): Index: Mailman/LockFile.py =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/mailman/mailman/… [View More]

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re: list admin server doesn't always respond?
by Tom Moore Aug. 29, 2000

Aug. 29, 2000

I was having the same trouble. I happen to know that at least one of Michael's servers is an OS X Server box, as is mine, and I wonder how much that has to do with the problem. I couldn't get a list to respond from the admin links (or after submitting from the "subscribe" page). I deleted the list, downgraded to beta 4, reinstalled beta 5, and so forth, and nothing worked. But then the problem just mysteriously went away, and new lists are working just fine. Thanks for this reply: >… [View More]

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how to set clobber_date = 1 by default?
by Marc MERLIN Aug. 29, 2000

Aug. 29, 2000

While I find it very regretable that clobber_date isn't set to 1 by default (i.e. mailman trusts whatever date is thrown at it by the MUA, which often causes completely ludicrous pages in web archives (Oct 2004 or 1990)), it's only a misguided default and I should be able to change it, right? :-) Well, actually I didn't find anything in Defaults.py that would let me set clobber_date to 1 by default. Did I miss anything or is that option absent? Can we please have mm 2.0 not trust the … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list admin server doesn't always respond?
by Ron Jarrell Aug. 29, 2000

Aug. 29, 2000

>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:09:50 -0400 >From: Michael Dunston <mdunston(a)music.vt.edu> >Anyone else have problems with the admin pages randomly not responding >for some lists? For some reason, every so often the admin page link does >not work for various lists. The problem floats around from list to list >and usually goes away after a day or so. At first I thought the list had >been corrupted, but this does not appear to be the case. I can remove >the list … [View More]

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Restricted-posting lists
by H. Wade Minter Aug. 29, 2000

Aug. 29, 2000

What's the easiest way to set up a mailman list for one-way, restricted posting only (for example, an announcements list). The "restrict posting to list members" option seems to allow either anyone in the world or anyone on the list, depending on how it's toggled, to post, and the welcome message says "To post to this list, etc....". I need to set up a list so that only 2-3 people can post to it, but anyone can subscribe to read it. I'm running 2.0b5. Ideas? Thanks, Wade

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list admin server doesn't always respond?
by Dan Mick Aug. 29, 2000

Aug. 29, 2000

> Anyone else have problems with the admin pages randomly not responding > for some lists? For some reason, every so often the admin page link does > not work for various lists. The problem floats around from list to list > and usually goes away after a day or so. At first I thought the list had > been corrupted, but this does not appear to be the case. I can remove > the list entirely, restart the computer, create a new list with the same > name an the problem persists.… [View More]

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by Libert'zone Aug. 28, 2000

Aug. 28, 2000

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Archiving errors & lock files
by Tim Pepper Aug. 28, 2000

Aug. 28, 2000

I have a Mailman install (2.0beta2) running on a Debian linux machine with python 1.5.2 (debian's 1.5.2-10 python-base package) which is giving me untold grief right now. Messages coming into lists are getting sent on to the list properly as best I can tell. Quite often though, the user sending a message will also recieve an error message back from the server, similar to the following (this one pulled from the $prefix/logs/error file): Aug 28 09:09:39 2000 post(3233): Traceback (innermost … [View More]last): post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/scripts/post", line 86, in ? post(3233): main() post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/scripts/post", line 62, in main post(3233): mlist.Post(msg) post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1293, in Post post(3233): Mailman.Handlers.HandlerAPI.DeliverToList(self, msg) post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 61, in DeliverToList post(3233): pipeline_delivery(mlist, msg, pipeline) post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 37, in pipeline_delivery post(3233): func(mlist, msg) post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToArchive.py", line 32, in process post(3233): mlist.ArchiveMail(msg) post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 200, in ArchiveMail post(3233): lock.lock() post(3233): File "/www/sites/lists/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 286, in lock post(3233): raise StaleLockFileError( post(3233): Mailman.LockFile . StaleLockFileError : Stale lock file found linked to file: /www/sites/lists/mailman/locks/devel.archiver.lock (requires manual intervention) The $prefix/locks directory usually then upon inspection has some entries like: -rw-rw-r-- 1 nobody mailman 86 Aug 25 14:41 devel.archiver.lock -rw-rw-r-- 16 mailman mailman 86 Aug 24 08:07 devel.archiver.lock.lists.10521 -rw-rw-r-- 16 mailman mailman 86 Aug 24 08:07 devel.archiver.lock.lists.11821 -rw-rw-r-- 16 mailman mailman 86 Aug 24 08:07 devel.archiver.lock.lists.12474 If I delete all of these and then 'touch devel.archiver.lock' things seem to work for a while again. I don't know if the lock file needs to exist, but it seemed like functioning lists had them even when the ...lock.lists.##### files weren't there, so I thought I'd recreate the file after killing it. The existing ones usually appear to contain a textual reference to the ...lock.lists.##### type files. I also came across files in the locks directory such as: devel<.lock devel=20.lock docs<br.lock docs=20.lock which almost look like they've got bits of html or something injected in the name (which is bit disturbing to me). This is a very low traffic machine with very capable hardware (dual pentiums with a bunch of memory server upwards of a dosen messages a day). If it matters the mailer is exim and the web server is apache. So...a couple questions: Anybody know what could be wrong here? How do these lock files work? Am I messing stuff up simply deleting them? I read through some mailman-devel archives and found some discussion of lockfiles which don't contain any text (races in writing to them) but use ctime/mtime offsets. The sample of python in that discussion was definitely not what is in my copy of LockFile.py, so either I've got an older version or else those changes weren't commited/accepted or something? And...Is there any solid documentation on mailman for the sysadmin? Tim -- ********************************************************* * tim.pepper@opensales dot com * Venimus, Vidimus, * * http://www.opensales.com * Dolavimus * ********************************************************* [View Less]

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Moving from mailman 1.1
by Kory Wheatley Aug. 28, 2000

Aug. 28, 2000

What would be the major advantage I would gain from converting from Mailman 1.1 to the latest version, and also could you point me to the upgrade procedure to do this. I have a production machine that contains over 100 Mailman lists at our University and I can't have much down time. Mailman 1.1 has really been running smoothly for me here, but I thought I would see what the advantages of the latest versions are.

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