Mailman 3 August 2000 - Mailman-Users

mailman and qmail
by Phil Barnett 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Is anyone here using Mailman with Qmail? -- Phil Barnett mailto:midnight@the-oasis.net WWW http://www.the-oasis.net/ FTP Site ftp://ftp.the-oasis.net

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Install headache
by paz 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Installing 2.0b5 on FreeBSD 3.4. Apache 1.3.9. Python installed and apparently happy. I've tried a few different install attempts based on prior notes and the install instructions. Also tried the package from the FreeBSD site; no joy. I grabbed the source and began... As root: Created user mailman. FreeBSD adduser created group mailman at the same time. Default shell is tcsh. Switched to user mailman. Copied mailman-2.0beta5 into /home/mailman/mailman-2.0beta5.tgz. tar xvzf mailman-2.0beta5.tgz. Saw much stuff created. su - root chmod -R g+s /home/mailman drop back to user mailman cd to /home/mailman/mailman-2.0beta5 ./configure --with-mail-gid=1 --with-cgi-gid=65534 make make install bin/check_perms Console displays: mailman @ harpo:~/mailman/mailman-2.0beta5[114] bin/check_perms Traceback (innermost last): File "bin/check_perms", line 35, in ? import paths ImportError: No module named paths mailman @ harpo:~/mailman/mailman-2.0beta5[115] cat /etc/group The same display occurs for bin/check_perms -f. I tried ignoring this and plowing on anyway. I edited the apache.conf file to provide the pipermail alias and the cgi ScriptAlias and restarted the server. I tried creating a list to test things out. Here's what I got: mailman @ harpo:~/mailman/mailman-2.0beta5[106] ./bin/newlist Traceback (innermost last): File "./bin/newlist", line 37, in ? import paths ImportError: No module named paths I went back a couple of times and did make clean and tried variations on the theme of ./configure (various options tried here) make make install No joy... Any help appreciated. cheers - -- Philip.

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Can't change list configs
by Meredith, Robert 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Ok, Upgrading to 2.0b5 helped some of my issues but I still have one. If I dump the config.db files (for backup reasons) I can see that there are two incorrect entries ('host_name': 'lists.mydomain.com' AND 'web_page_url': 'http://lists.mydomain.com/private'). How do I change these with "withlist"? I looked at the help for this, and can get into the ">>>" prompt. What should I type from here? Am I in the right place to change this? -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Leblanc [mailto:GLeblanc@cu-portland.edu] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:35 AM To: Meredith, Robert; mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Can't change list configs > -----Original Message----- > From: Meredith, Robert [mailto:robert.meredith@neonsoft.com] > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:32 AM > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Can't change list configs > > Okay, I recently moved approximately 20 lists from an old Mailman v1.1 > server to a new Mailman v2.0b4 server. On the old server, [snip] > I have tried changing these entries to "dnindns1.neonsoft.com" and > "http://dnindns1.mydomain.com/mailman" respectively. Once I > hit the "Submit > Your Changes" button, I am then once again challenged for a > password. When > I enter it, it takes me back to the General Options page and > the entries are > NOT changed... Why can't I change this? Is there a way to edit this > manually instead of using the web-based interface? Upgrade to beta 5, the cookie code has been re-done, and should fix that problem (at least it did for me). > Is there a per-list config file that can be edited by hand? > Or do I have to > use Python? Thanks. There is no plain text file, but you can use the with_list command to get access to the list config. Later, Greg ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Mailman 2.0 beta 5 / RedHat 6.1
by Kevin of Thornbury 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Hello! This weekend I upgraded my Mailman 1.0 to Mailman 2.0 beta 5 on my RedHat 6.1 server. What I've found so far is one mailing list is unreachable. While I can get to the admin pages of other mailing lists fine, this one won't display. Netscape just says, "Connect: Host X contacted. Waiting for reply" and hangs there. Eventually I think it gives a "document contains no data" error. I've tried to rmlist -a <list> and then newlist <list> but it doesn't solve my problem, I can't get to it. I've even created a "test" list since the upgrade, and it seems to work fine. (Of course, I still get internal server errors sometimes and /var/log/messages tells me nothing.) Also, I'm getting the following errors mailied to me, which make no sense at all: *** /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner Exception exceptions.AttributeError: '_Lggger__fp' in <method Logger.__del__ of StampedLogger instance at 80e6578> ignored Exception exceptions.AttributeError: '_Lggger__fp' in <method _Syslog.__del__ of _Syslog instance at 81461a0> ignored Exception exceptions.AttributeError: '_Lggger__fp' in <method Logger.__del__ of StampedLogger instance at 811b0f8> ignored *** /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 85, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 46, in ? from Mailman.Bouncer import Bouncer ValueError: bad marshal data *** /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 85, in ? from Mailman import MailList File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 42, in ? from Mailman.HTMLFormatter import HTMLFormatter File "/home/mailman/Mailman/HTMLFormatter.py", line 27, in ? from htmlformat import * ValueError: bad marshal data *** I have no idea what's going on, and I don't know Python. Can anyone offer help? _____ |_|_| Kevin Maxson (Lord Kevin of Thornbury) | | | Electronic Publications Manager, SCA, Inc. \|/ kevin(a)maxson.com http://www.sca.org

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Can't change list configs
by Gregory Leblanc 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

> -----Original Message----- > From: Meredith, Robert [mailto:robert.meredith@neonsoft.com] > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:32 AM > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Can't change list configs > > Okay, I recently moved approximately 20 lists from an old Mailman v1.1 > server to a new Mailman v2.0b4 server. On the old server, [snip] > I have tried changing these entries to "dnindns1.neonsoft.com" and > "http://dnindns1.mydomain.com/mailman" respectively. Once I > hit the "Submit > Your Changes" button, I am then once again challenged for a > password. When > I enter it, it takes me back to the General Options page and > the entries are > NOT changed... Why can't I change this? Is there a way to edit this > manually instead of using the web-based interface? Upgrade to beta 5, the cookie code has been re-done, and should fix that problem (at least it did for me). > Is there a per-list config file that can be edited by hand? > Or do I have to > use Python? Thanks. There is no plain text file, but you can use the with_list command to get access to the list config. Later, Greg

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Admin moderation and forwarding of rejection notice
by Malcolm Tobias 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Greetings All, I'm running Mailman 2.0b5 and co-administering a closed, moderated list. When rejecting posts, it would be nice if I could forward both the message and the reason for rejecting the message to the admins. Currently, the "additionally forward this message to" feature only includes the base message and not the reason for rejection. I'm not sure if this falls in the bug or feature request category. Cheers, Malcolm -- Malcolm Tobias mtobias(a)wugrav.wustl.edu

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Can't change list configs
by Meredith, Robert 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Okay, I recently moved approximately 20 lists from an old Mailman v1.1 server to a new Mailman v2.0b4 server. On the old server, the lists were at http://lists.mydomain.com/private/, now they are at http://dnindns1.mydomain.com/mailman. If I go to http://dnindns1.mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo, then to the "list admin overview page", then select the list, then enter the List Administrative Password I get to a page where I can change the General Options of this particular list. If I scroll down, there is a blank for the "Host name this list prefers". In this blank, it currently says "lists.mydomain.com". There is also a blank for the "Base URL for Mailman web interface". In this blank, it currently says "http://lists.mydomain.com/private. I have tried changing these entries to "dnindns1.neonsoft.com" and "http://dnindns1.mydomain.com/mailman" respectively. Once I hit the "Submit Your Changes" button, I am then once again challenged for a password. When I enter it, it takes me back to the General Options page and the entries are NOT changed... Why can't I change this? Is there a way to edit this manually instead of using the web-based interface? Is there a per-list config file that can be edited by hand? Or do I have to use Python? Thanks. -robert

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Help, please.
by Phil Barnett 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

I've spent about 15 hours in the last two days trying to wind my way through the maze I'm dealing with. First, I have a Redhat 6.2 server running Plesk Server Administrator. Plesk creates a fairly secure environment, including using suexec for cgi-bin security. This is giving me fits, since it means I have to give special ownership and specific rights to the /home/mailman/cgi-bin directory. This means that once I get this directory set so that the cgi-bin files will execute that bin/check_perms returns a bunch of errors, ie: it thinks that most of it should be owned by mailman instead of the suexec group id. Also, bin/check_perms suggests that the cgi-bin directory should be chmod 02775, but suexec insists on 02755. Also, I had to chown a lot of files in the /home/mailman directory to the suexec id, ie: chown -R fiberhos.pleskcli instead of mailman.mailman. I'm wondering at this point if I can even get it to work at all... Am I beating a dead horse? What do I have so far? If I log into the server at: https://www.fiberhosting.com/mailman/admin, I get the admin page, but if I try to open https://www.fiberhosting.com/mailman/admin/test, it just locks up and waits several minutes until it times out. There is nothing written to the logs/error file or any other file in the logs directory. the suexec log shows that a cgi script ran without problems. There is nothing in the apache logs. After it timed out, the python process stopped. (ps aux) I'd really appreciate any help I can get from any of you. Thanks... Here is some information on the server (from an error I corrected during my getting permissions set) Redhat 6.2 Mailman version 2.0beta5 Python information: sys.version 1.5.2 (#1, Feb 1 2000, 16:32:16) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs- sys.executable /usr/bin/python sys.prefix /usr sys.exec_prefix /usr sys.path /usr sys.platform linux-i386 Environment variables: SSL_SERVER_I_DN /C=RU/O=BSG/CN=als.nsk.bsgdesign.com/CN=localhost HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING gzip, deflate SSL_SERVER_CN localhost HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE en-us SSL_SERVER_C RU GATEWAY_INTERFACE CGI/1.1 SSL_SERVER_O BSG HTTP_ACCEPT */* REQUEST_URI /mailman/admin/test SSL_SERVER_I_C RU SSL_SSLEAY_VERSION OpenSSL 0.9.4 09 Aug 1999 HTTPS on HTTP_HOST www.fiberhosting.com SSL_SERVER_I_O BSG SERVER_ADMIN admin(a)fiberhosting.com SCRIPT_FILENAME /home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin HTTPS_SECRETKEYSIZE 128 PYTHONPATH /home/mailman SSL_PROTOCOL_VERSION SSLv3 HTTP_USER_AGENT Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT) DOCUMENT_ROOT /usr/local/plesk/apache/vhosts/fiberhosting.com/httpsdocs SERVER_ADDR 206.132.232.94 SSL_SERVER_I_CN localhost SERVER_PORT 443 HTTPS_KEYSIZE 128 CHARSET_HTTP_METHOD https:// UNIQUE_ID OaXq286E6F4AAFS-DgE REMOTE_ADDR 207.30.74.40 SERVER_NAME www.fiberhosting.com HTTP_CONNECTION Keep-Alive CHARSET_SERVER_NAME www.fiberhosting.com:443 SSL_SERVER_DN /C=RU/O=BSG/CN=als.nsk.bsgdesign.com/CN=localhost CHARSET_SERVER_PORT 443 SSL_CIPHER RC4-MD5 PATH /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin QUERY_STRING SERVER_PROTOCOL HTTP/1.1 PATH_INFO /test REMOTE_PORT 2754 REQUEST_METHOD GET PATH_TRANSLATED /usr/local/plesk/apache/vhosts/fiberhosting.com/httpsdocs/test SCRIPT_NAME /mailman/admin SERVER_SOFTWARE Apache/1.3.12 Ben-SSL/1.38 (Unix) PHP/3.0.15 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 rus/PL29.4 HTTPS_CIPHER RC4-MD5 -- Phil Barnett mailto:midnight@the-oasis.net WWW http://www.the-oasis.net/ FTP Site ftp://ftp.the-oasis.net

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Mailman & Qmail... looping mail problem?
by Branden Hall 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

Hello everyone! I just joined this list, and may I first thank the developers of this great program! I got it up and working in *no* time! As for my question... I have Mailman working with Qmail, and it seems to work just fine, except that everytime someone sends an email to my lists they get an email back with the following info in it. This only occurs if someone is mailing to my lists, and not if they are emailing a user on my system directly. If anyone has any insight into why this is happening, it would be greatly appreciated!! Hi. This is the qmail-send program at chattyfig.figleaf.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com>: This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <bhall(a)figleaf.com> Received: (qmail 23870 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2000 13:50:56 -0000 Received: from gate.v3.com (HELO dpi.nl) (213.156.3.162) by chattyfig.figleaf.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2000 13:50:56 -0000 Received: from Pending... [213.196.23.6] by dpi.nl [] with DomainPOP (MDaemon.v3.0.4.R) for <flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com>; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:48:20 +0200 Return-Path: <flashcoders-admin(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com> Received: from chattyfig.figleaf.com ([146.145.88.77]) by anne.caveo.nl (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-67856U1000L100S0V35) with SMTP id nl for <PaulH(a)dpi.nl>; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:50:09 +0200 Received: (qmail 23624 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2000 13:50:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Aug 2000 13:50:02 -0000 Return-Path: <bhall(a)figleaf.com> Delivered-To: flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com Received: (qmail 23599 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2000 13:49:26 -0000 Received: from figdcaexc1.figleaf.com (146.145.88.79) by chattyfig.figleaf.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2000 13:49:26 -0000 Received: by figdcaexc1.figleaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <RS9RG8ZD>; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:47:01 -0400 Message-ID: <77CE3E0C3A79D4119D5B0008C7D3820D131E90(a)figdcaexc1.figleaf.com> From: Branden Hall <bhall(a)figleaf.com> To: "'flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com'" <flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Code will not update itself Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:46:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: flashcoders-admin(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com Errors-To: flashcoders-admin(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com X-BeenThere: flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com List-Id: Flash 5 Programming-centeric Mailing List <flashcoders.chattyfig.figleaf.com> X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: flashcoders(a)chattyfig.figleaf.com X-MDRemoteIP: 213.196.23.6 <actual message went here> -= Branden J. Hall -= Senior Interactive Developer/Instructor -= Fig Leaf Software - "We've got you covered!"

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Complaint: My E-mail address appears on this site without my permission
by John A. Martin 28 Aug '00

28 Aug '00

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 How do folks respond to complaints like the one below? In this example with mailman 1.1 using default options the mail addresses in the archives are not obfuscated. Do mailing list archives commonly obfuscate mail headers? My position has been not to _rewrite history_ by modifying mail archives. In this instance the complainer evidently gave permission for someone to put his mail to the list and so may have been unaware that the list was archived. However I receive similar complaints from folk that have themselves posted to lists where they could hardly have been unaware of the archives. jam - ------- Forwarded Message -- Identifiable info obfuscated Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:44:28 -0700 From: John Q. Doe <jqd(a)home.com> To: mailman-owner(a)lists.none-such.org Subject: My E-mail address appears on this site without my permission Dear owner, I've noticed that some E-mail I agreed to have forwarded to a list managed by you has appeared on your web site with my e-mail address included. Had I know this would happen, I would have refused to have it forwarded. It is well know that Spammers tend to harvest E-mail address from the web. At the very least, some sort of device to hinder the "spam-bots" should be employed here. Could you please either delete my E-mail address or alter it so that spammers would be foiled? Here's one of the URLs" http://lists.none-such.org/pipermail/big-bytes/2000q1/999999.html Thank-you John Q. Doe - ------- End of Forwarded Message -- Identifiable info obfuscated -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: OpenPGP encrypted mail preferred. See <http://www.gnupg.org/> iEYEARECAAYFAjmoHlIACgkQUEvv1b/iXy/MLgCfeSn9/XTasSXOzkJ2Rwj4/mtu N9oAoI7Q5mRPaTxugn758tlScHBEG3Jw =B0pb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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