Mailman 3 January 2001 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Implicit Destination
by Dan Mick Jan. 3, 2001

Jan. 3, 2001

> | > I think I found a solution, but wanted to check with the list to see if I am > | > correct. > | > I was poking around the excerpts and found that people were sending messages > | > to my list "resume(a)foo.bar" with addresses such as "resume(a)foo.bar; > | > resume(a)jobs.com; resume(a)frank.com; resume(a)blah.com; etc." > | > | I think there's information in here but I can't see it. What do you mean > | "with address such as resume(a)foo.bar; … [View More]resume(a)jobs.com; etc.", exactly? > | Do you mean messages that had > > No... if you move to clicks up the thread you will see: > (this is in the text that you qouted as well) > > To: Friends <mailaddr1; mailaddr2; mailaddr3; mailaddr4> > > This is flagged as implicit destinaion by mailman. "two clicks up" means nothing on a mailing list; I delete incoming mail after I've read it. But yes, I see that your problem is also buried far below in the quoted text. Your problem statement is clear, and may well be a bug. But I didn't respond to your problem statement, I responded to dmunoz's, and his statement was not clearly the same as yours; it's not yet clear whether his *problem* is the same as yours, either. That's why I asked for clarification. Since you've now posted your problem twice, though, and in case it's really what dmunoz means: Your problem address, namely: To: Friends <mailaddr1; mailaddr2; mailaddr3; mailaddr4> is a strange-looking address, so I tried to interpret it using RFC822, the "standard" for Internet mail addresses. The only thing it vaguely resembles is something I've never seen in practice, a "group" address. Given first the standard "phrase route-addr" parse, which calls "Friends" the "phrase" (ignored) and "<mailaddr1; mailaddr2; mailaddr3; mailaddr4>" the "route-addr" part, we could attempt to interpret route-addr as a "group", perhaps: group = phrase ":" [#mailbox] ";" But it's missing "phrase" and ":", and I don't see anything in RFC822 identifying those as optional. "phrase" must be at least one "word", and ":" is not optional. Also, it doesn't look like "group" addresses are legal inside "route-addr"s, so it's already got problems that it's inside the <>. So I don't know what that address is, but I claim it's not an RFC822 mail address. The program that generated it would be interesting to know. I also don't know for sure, but I don't think those are the kind of addresses that dmunoz was seeing. [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron question
by J C Lawrence Jan. 3, 2001

Jan. 3, 2001

On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 15:11:25 -0800 Dan Mick <Dan.Mick(a)west.sun.com> wrote: > As for "cron logs"...is this really a worry? I've got about a > megabyte in log and olog on Solaris. A megabyte is ignorable in > these days of "20GB is entry-level" disks. syslog-ng can be a good friend for cases like this as you can filter your logs with a much finer grain (and therefore rotate them more finely as well). -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ----… [View More]

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Adding a new filter
by Ian Clarke Jan. 3, 2001

Jan. 3, 2001

I have created a new filter in the style of bowa-strip and am unsure of how to use it for a mailing list. Could someone let me know? For your interest, I have copied the filter below - it is designed to spamproof email addresses in emails forwarded to Usenet. Ian. -- # import gnu_public_license import sys, __main__, string input = sys.stdin.readlines() for x in range(len(input)): if (string.find(input[x],"From") != -1): input[x] = string.replace(input[x], "@", "@nospam.") # … [View More]

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upgrading results in duplicate Python files ?
by Michael Dunston Jan. 2, 2001

Jan. 2, 2001

I recently upgraded both Python (1.52 -> 2.0) and Mailman (2.0b5 -> 2.0) and now appear to have duplicate python files in the 'Mailman' directory. (Mac OSXS 1.2) ex: aliases.py aliases.pyc Bouncer.py Bouncer.pyc etc. Does anyone know what the '.pyc' files are and if it is safe to simply remove them? THanks for any suggestions. . . . . . . . . . . . Michael Dunston Music and Technology http://www.music.vt.edu Virginia Tech School of the Arts

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Multiple Mailing Lists
by Christopher VanOosterhout Jan. 2, 2001

Jan. 2, 2001

I have just installed mailman (pretty painless even for a non-sys-admin like me). It looks like it will work well. Now I am looking for some hints on how I may manage multiple lists centrally. In other words I would like my users to have as painless as possible experience managing their subscriptions. Here are a couple of questions: 1) ABOUT MMSITEPASS COMMAND What if my some odd chance a user selects the password set using the mmsitepass command? Will they be allowed to use that … [View More]

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Buglet or Bozo? Problems with the /mailman/admin/(listname)/members (ie, membership management admin) page
by Scott Brown Jan. 2, 2001

Jan. 2, 2001

I've got a problem....I've got a large (600+ user) list When the list admin (or I, with the site password) go into this page, and try to select a different chunk of users to display on the page, the chunk never changes, it's always the first 30 addresses that are shown. The URL is changing, but the contents of the page are not. I dont believe this to be a proxy problem (I dont use one), or cache problem (shift-refresh under IE does not get the correct page).... Mailman version is 2.0 Python … [View More]

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Intermittent error message: FW: Cron <mailman@trotter> /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner
by Raphael Crawford-Marks Jan. 2, 2001

Jan. 2, 2001

Anyone seen this error message before? It's mailed to the list admin occasionally, but nothing appears to be broken. -----Original Message----- From: CronDaemon [mailto:mailman@user-error.net]On Behalf Of Cron Daemon Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 2:34 AM To: mailman(a)user-error.net Subject: Cron <mailman@trotter> /usr/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 84, in ? from Mailman import Utils File "/home/… [View More]

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Upgrading and templates
by Jesse Chan-Norris Jan. 2, 2001

Jan. 2, 2001

The UPGRADING file tells me Mailman will NOT upgrade the template files for existing lists. Chuq Von Rospach gives some useful advice in this message to the users mailing list: http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2000-September/007523.html This url appears to be 404 (there was just a rebuild of the archives or something similar, correct?). As I'm not even sure what I should be looking for in the archives, could someone point me at the correct url, or at least to a … [View More]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Newlist from a webpage?
by Scott Brown Jan. 2, 2001

Jan. 2, 2001

Bob, thats interesting... but lets modify this a bit to make it more multi-user... the virtual domains's "controlpanel" writes to a (hidden) file (in the root of each virtual domain) the necessary info for the newlist routine, after checking that the list doesnt exist yet... Then, every couple minutes (say every 5... but that *could* be too long if you have a large number of virtual domains on the box - but being a cron job, thats configurable on a box by box basis) the cron job wakes up, as … [View More]root, and processes through the list of domains on the box, looking for new trigger files. When found it processes the newlist (capturing any error that might occur), and either updates the /etc/aliases and the virtual domains redirection, or barfs back a message to the intended list owner indicating they were >< that close to getting a list with that name... Lets complicate things a little more - and add rmlist processing as well - that way complete control is within the virtual domain owner's hands... and I dont have to deal with as many support requests ;-) This should be pretty simple this way... it's not instantaneous - but it should serve most people well enough, and since it's all driven from inside the virtual domains's diskspace, the possibilty of multiple people thrashing the same file is minimized. (currently) I'm not worried about wasting cycles - my server rarely breaks 5% CPU usage - and I already have another job that runs at 5 minute intervals that I can tack this on to the end of... I've got a site design/build to complete by the end of the year, so I'll look at this sometime in the new year. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Puff@NLE [mailto:bob@nleaudio.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 10:31 PM > To: scott-brown(a)home.com > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist from a webpage? > > > Hi Scott, > > I have another idea for you. Something I think was done at > the old ISP I used to use. > > Have your cgi script build some sort of shell script to do > what you need. Stuff it in some directory. > Now set up a cron job that runs every hour (or more often if > you want) that checks to see if this script is present, and > if so, run it with root priveleges. Then delete it after it is done. > > Yes, it does waste some processor time, but you can do just > about anything. Been thinking about implementing that in my system. > > Please keep me posted on your progress. > > Bob > > > Scott Brown wrote: > > > > Know whats really funny here Bob? > > > > People want the ability. People discuss it. A few of us > even fiddle with > > it, write a little code, run into roadblocks... and in the > end, nothing > > useful gets done and the thread dies off. > > > > I dont want this to happen this time. > > > > Personally - I've looked through the source to newlist - > there's not much > > there really - and what is there *could* be turned into a > CGI - once I > > figure out the PHP CGI wrapper that Barry (et al) used - > but I ran into a > > roadblock where the security of my server's config (all > user CGI's are > > SUEXEC'd) makes it impossible for newlist to complete > successfully (see my > > other thread about newlist dying with an error trying to > unlink a lock > > file). > > > > So - I think I'm going to have to do what someone else > suggested - and > > create an email address to which the required info gets > posted, intercept it > > via a "wrapper" like functionality, and then process things > as the mail > > user. > > > > The next stage (updating the /etc/aliases and virtual > domain tables files), > > requries root priv on my box, so I'm still trying to figure > out how to do > > that one. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bob Puff@NLE [mailto:bob@nleaudio.com] > > > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:31 PM > > > To: scott-brown(a)home.com > > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Newlist from a webpage? > > > > > > > > > Hi Scott, > > > > > > I've been following your thread. Let me know if you come up > > > with a cgi (or other) script - I'm trying to do the same > > > thing here - let users create mailing lists. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > [View Less]

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2.0final bin/withlist patch for -r and -l available
by Dan Mick Jan. 2, 2001

Jan. 2, 2001

Users of bin/withlist may have noticed that the -r and -l options were broken in 2.0final; I just uploaded a SourceForge patch to fix that (and I've asked Barry what he wants to do process-wise with little nitty fixes like this). http://sourceforge.net/patch/?func=detailpatch&patch_id=102974&group_id=103

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