Mailman 3 November 2001 - Mailman-Users

RE: [Mailman-Users] Dissapearing messages
by David Ball Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

> Most likely there's a spam filter on the receiving mailserver. > Some of them just discard spam messages without sending a bounce; > this is nasty is the case of false positives. I thought this too, but what I can't understand is why mail sent from the console gets delivered correctly. Is there any part of the headers sent by mailman that might trigger a spam trap? I'm really stuck for what to try next :/ DaveB

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Problem with archiver after updating server.
by Paul Rubin Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

I very recently upgraded my server, in the process I went from exim to sendmail, I went from redhat 7.0 to redhat 7.2 I re-formatted the drive and restored the mailman files from the backup. I appear to have a problem of some sort with the archiving. can someone tell me how to diagnose this problem further, so that I can fix it? Thank you. admin(10855): [----- Traceback ------] admin(10855): Traceback (innermost last): admin(10855): File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main admin(10855): main() admin(10855): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 152, in main admin(10855): ChangeOptions(mlist, category, cgidata, doc) admin(10855): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 940, in ChangeOptions admin(10855): mlist.DeleteMember(user) admin(10855): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1184, in DeleteMember admin(10855): self.Save() admin(10855): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 861, in Save admin(10855): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() admin(10855): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 256, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir admin(10855): makelink(privdir, pubdir) admin(10855): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 42, in makelink admin(10855): os.symlink(old, new) admin(10855): OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory admin(10855): [----- Python Information -----] admin(10855): sys.version = 1.5.2 (#1, Jul 5 2001, 03:02:19) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2 admin(10855): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(10855): sys.prefix = /usr admin(10855): sys.exec_prefix= /usr admin(10855): sys.path = /usr admin(10855): sys.platform = linux-i386 admin(10855): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(10855): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(10855): SERVER_ADDR: 216.27.160.51 admin(10855): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip admin(10855): CONTENT_LENGTH: 3166 admin(10855): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(10855): PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/html/dialingdave/members admin(10855): REMOTE_ADDR: 199.34.24.169 admin(10855): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.2 PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.24_01 admin(10855): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(10855): HTTP_COOKIE: dialingdave:admin=280200000069487f013c73280000006334316636656136386238616539 6433643835633531343263323665303335373264393130346232 admin(10855): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en admin(10855): REMOTE_PORT: 1450 admin(10855): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(10855): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(10855): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.77 [en] (Win98; U) admin(10855): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 admin(10855): HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* admin(10855): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin/dialingdave/members admin(10855): QUERY_STRING: admin(10855): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.0 admin(10855): PATH_INFO: /dialingdave/members admin(10855): HTTP_HOST: www1.rubinsoftware.com admin(10855): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(10855): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.20 Server at www1.rubinsoftware.com Port 80</ADDRESS> admin(10855): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin admin(10855): SERVER_ADMIN: root@localhost admin(10855): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin admin(10855): PYTHONPATH: /var/mailman admin(10855): HTTP_REFERER: http://www1.rubinsoftware.com/mailman/admin/dialingdave/members admin(10855): SERVER_NAME: www1.rubinsoftware.com

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Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert'
by Pavel Chytil Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

Hello, I am new to mailman, so bear with me. I have downloaded mailman-2.0.7 which works fine, than I have tried mailman 2.1 (also from cvs), and getting error message below in error log whenever I try to send email to mailman-request(a)asp.ogi.edu with word help in Subject line (I have tried also word help in body of message without any luck). Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Uncaught runner exception: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' Nov 25 16:24:47 2001 (11789) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 104, in __oneloop self.__onefile(msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 152, in __onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py", line 61, in _dispose mlist.ParseMailCommands(msg, msgdata) File "/work/mailman/Mailman/MailCommandHandler.py", line 198, in ParseMailCommands lines.insert(0, SPACE.join(subjcmd)) AttributeError: 'generator' object has no attribute 'insert' What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Pavel

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qrunner error
by John Kostash Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

I am getting EOF errors from qrunner (specifically from marshal.load). It looks like I have some empty .db files in the qfiles directory. I ran out of disk space a while ago and that may have caused the problem. Is there any way to re-generate the .db files from the .msg files in the qfiles directory? Thanks. John Kostash Gennum Corporation

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: feature request?
by J C Lawrence Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:58:28 -0700 Ashley M Kirchner <ashley(a)pcraft.com> wrote: > J C Lawrence wrote: >> I would prefer it didn't log me out (actually that would both >> annoy me and destroy the utility of the feature). > As a site administrator, I can see this worthwhile. After all, > hitting /admin by itself gets me all the lists. However, as a > list admin, going back to /admin isn't going to do you much good > if you can't access anyone else's list anyways. Who said I can't access any other lists? > Now, if I was hitting /admin/<list>, that's different, and logging > people out would become annoying yes - but that link is already > there. I admin multiple lists. Most of them are moderated. I log a browser into the admin interface for each list once, and then from there on skip back and forth among the various lists and their moderation interfaces freely. Typically I'll keep the cookie for such administration around for two or three months until the next time I restart my browser. Desktop security is not a concern. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: feature request?
by J C Lawrence Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:48:12 -0700 Ashley M Kirchner <ashley(a)pcraft.com> wrote: > That would mean having to log you out on that page (or upon > clicking on those links). I would prefer it didn't log me out (actually that would both annoy me and destroy the utility of the feature). -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: feature request?
by J C Lawrence Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:30:35 -0700 Ashley M Kirchner <ashley(a)pcraft.com> wrote: > J C Lawrence wrote: >> However there is no link back to the /admin or /listinfo pages, >> which is unfortunate. > Hrm, maybe it's just me then, but after I'm done with whatever > administrative tasks needed to be done (/mailman/admindb/<list>), > I get a page back that looks like this: ... > That last line is a link back to /admin/<list> - is that not > what you want? Nope. I want a link back to .../listinfo/ and/or .../admin/ -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: feature request?
by J C Lawrence Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:35:27 -0700 Ashley M Kirchner <ashley(a)pcraft.com> wrote: > "J. Barnes" wrote: >> When I login to the administrative mode for a mailing list and >> click on "tend to pendingadministrative requests", after I click >> the submit changes button, I'm at a dead-end type screen. >> Shouldn't this screen have the standard set of links for >> Configuration Categories and Other Administrative Tasks? I tend >> to click the back button twice to return to where I want to be. > You're not at a dead-end page. Follow the link at the bottom > that takes you back to the administrative page. However there is no link back to the /admin or /listinfo pages, which is unfortunate. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Hitting a bug in 2.0.6
by Gregory Leblanc Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

Hi folks! I've got mailman throwing up the "we've hit a bug page" on a set of archives for me pretty consistently. The python traceback says something about "OverflowError: integer multiplication" (I've included the whole output below). It's showing up in gzip.py, but these archives aren't especially large or anything like that. I'm pretty stumped as to what's causing it, or how to go about fixing it. Thanks for any hints, Greg P.S. I'm set to nomail from this list at the moment, so I'd appreciate copying me on replies. Nov 26 00:26:49 2001 admin(22671): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(22671): [----- Mailman Version: 2.0.6 -----] admin(22671): [----- Traceback ------] admin(22671): Traceback (innermost last): admin(22671): File "/home/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main admin(22671): main() admin(22671): File "/var/tmp/mailman-2.0.6-2-build/home/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/private.py", line 209, in main admin(22671): File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/gzip.py", line 151, in read admin(22671): readsize = readsize * 2 admin(22671): OverflowError: integer multiplication admin(22671): [----- Python Information -----] admin(22671): sys.version = 1.5.2 (#1, Jul 5 2001, 03:02:19) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2 admin(22671): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(22671): sys.prefix = /usr admin(22671): sys.exec_prefix= /usr admin(22671): sys.path = /usr admin(22671): sys.platform = linux-i386 admin(22671): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(22671): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(22671): SERVER_ADDR: 209.116.70.73 admin(22671): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip,deflate,compress,identity admin(22671): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(22671): PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/html/vote/2001-November.txt.gz admin(22671): REMOTE_ADDR: 216.99.218.48 admin(22671): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.2 PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.24_01 admin(22671): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(22671): HTTP_COOKIE: vote:archive=28020000006970d2013c732800000063366532623233376231366665616361663762613433623362623239363537306362353739613535 admin(22671): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en admin(22671): REMOTE_PORT: 10624 admin(22671): SERVER_NAME: mail.example.com admin(22671): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(22671): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; Galeon) Gecko/20010901 admin(22671): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1, utf-8;q=0.66, *;q=0.66 admin(22671): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/xml, application/xml, application/xhtml+xml, text/html;q=0.9, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif;q=0.2, text/plain;q=0.8, text/css, */*;q=0.1 admin(22671): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/private/vote/2001-November.txt.gz admin(22671): HTTP_CACHE_CONTROL: max-age=0 admin(22671): QUERY_STRING: admin(22671): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(22671): HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300 admin(22671): HTTP_HOST: mail.gnome.org admin(22671): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(22671): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.20 Server at mail.example.com Port 80</ADDRESS> admin(22671): HTTP_IF_MODIFIED_SINCE: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 05:26:10 GMT admin(22671): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/private admin(22671): SERVER_ADMIN: root(a)example.com admin(22671): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /home/mailman/cgi-bin/private admin(22671): PYTHONPATH: /home/mailman admin(22671): PATH_INFO: /vote/2001-November.txt.gz admin(22671): HTTP_REFERER: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/private/vote/

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feature request?
by J. Barnes Nov. 26, 2001

Nov. 26, 2001

I keep bumping into the same annoying thing with Mailman and was wondering how I go about suggesting a feature. I'll describe the situation here, and perhaps someone can tell me if I'm doing something wrong or whatever. When I login to the administrative mode for a mailing list and click on "tend to pendingadministrative requests", after I click the submit changes button, I'm at a dead-end type screen. Shouldn't this screen have the standard set of links for Configuration Categories and Other Administrative Tasks? I tend to click the back button twice to return to where I want to be. Thanks for any suggestions, etc. Jason

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