Mailman 3 November 2001 - Mailman-Users

NNTP and Message-Ids
by Simen E. Sandberg Nov. 28, 2001

Nov. 28, 2001

First: Sorry for my bad english. I'm not a native english-speaker, so please ignore my mistakes. :o) I'm running some lists with the NNTP-gateway enabled both ways. I've noticed that when mailman posts to the newsgroup, it changes the Message-Id. Or, I guess it's mailman and not INN. This generates problems with threading, since one message got two message ids. An example: test(a)lists.example.com both posts and collects messages from local.test at the news-server news.example.com. John and Anne are both subscribed to the list and Peter prefers to use the news-server. John posts a message to the list with subject "Hello". John's client generates the message id <john123.456(a)example.com> for that mail. Mailman will now forward that message correctly to Anne, with the right message id. But when Peter reads the message at the news-server, he will see the message id <mailman.345.987(a)lists.example.com>. So far, everything looks fine for the users. But now Anne wants to make a reply to John's post and posts a message to the list with subject "Re: Hello". This message has the In-Reply-To-header "<john123.456(a)example.com>", since this is the message id on the mail she recieved. Peter, who are still using NNTP, will not be able to find the message <john123.456(a)example.com>, since it has been renamed to <mailman.345.654(a)lists.example.com> on the news-server. Peter's newsreader will then create a new thread for the reply. Are there any way I can let all the users of my lists recieve the same message ids, so my news-reading users will be able to get the threads right? Thak you in advance. (I'm subscribed to the list, with the address mailman at senilix.net) -- Senilix - Simen E. Sandberg | Join the (r)evolution! http://www.senilix.net/ | www.nlc.no senilixágallerbyen.net, á=@ | Workplace: http://www.hvam.vgs.no/

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Stripping Attachments
by Ashley M. Kirchner Nov. 28, 2001

Nov. 28, 2001

Does anyone know of some type of module, or frontend for MM that functions similar to what the Listar (http://www.listar.org) program does with attachments? Listar will strip any MIME content off of the message and dump it to an URL accessible address and will then forward the message on through, with that URL in it. It puts this footer to the message when it forwards it: -- Attached file removed by Listar and put at URL below -- -- Type: application/zip -- Size: 41k (42529 bytes) -- URL : http://blah.blah/<file>.zip (above example was for a zip file) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +-------------------------------------------------------------------- Ashley M. Kirchner <mailto:ashley@pcraft.com> . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / WebSmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Laboratories, Inc. . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com ..... . . . Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Supressing those "List*" headers
by Jonathan Andrew Sheen Nov. 28, 2001

Nov. 28, 2001

At 01:45 AM 11/28/01 -0500, Jon Carnes wrote: >On Tuesday 27 November 2001 19:36, Paul Tomblin wrote: >> Is there any way to suppress those "List*" >> headers. One of the people on my mailing lists is >> complaining that they seem to be forcing his >> email to be HTML. (He uses Eudora.) > >Its quite easy to do. You edit one file - please >backup the file before you edit it!: > > ~mailman/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py > > headers = { > 'List-Id' : listid, > 'List-Help' : '<mailto:%s?subject=help>' % requestaddr, > 'List-Unsubscribe': subfieldfmt % (listinfo, requestaddr, 'un'), > 'List-Subscribe' : subfieldfmt % (listinfo, requestaddr, ''), > 'List-Post' : '<mailto:%s>' % mlist.GetListEmail(), > } > > >Feel free to delete any of the lines inside the >"headers" clause, but I would recommend that you >leave 'List-Id'. Is there any way this can be used to either move these headers above the "subject:" line, or get it to reiterate the "Subject:" line below the list headers but above the date? Jonathan Andrew Sheen http://www.leviathanstudios.com Leviathan of the GEI (Detached.) jsheen(a)leviathanstudios.com "What'dya expect? I'm a New Yorker!" -Anonymous New York Firefighter, 9/12/01

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Mailman Admin Request Error?
by spynote＠earthlink.net Nov. 28, 2001

Nov. 28, 2001

Mailman seems to be a little out of sync with my list. I keep getting messages to tend to subscription requests that have already been filled. I suspect that something went awry when I manually subbed the names (via "mass subscribe"), instead of going through the administrative request interface. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Or can shed any light on potential solutions? Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Can Mailman archives be used by Listproc lists?
by Mike Ewall Nov. 28, 2001

Nov. 28, 2001

Hi there, I'm running a bunch of Listproc lists and I'm looking for a decent program to archive the lists on a website. Can Mailman be used this way or do the archives work only for Mailman lists? Mike

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authentication
by Joe Wise Nov. 28, 2001

Nov. 28, 2001

My students and I keep getting a "user unknown" message back when I try to subscribe to my list-serve. The message goes out fine. It is in the reply that something gets fowled up. Is there something I have done wrong in the configuration? My main mail server is on a W2k box on the network. I have it set to relay mail for raven.newroads.org to the mailman box. I seem to be able to get mail to root(a)raven.newroads.org through. Joe

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Supressing those "List*" headers
by J C Lawrence Nov. 28, 2001

Nov. 28, 2001

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:36:31 -0500 Paul Tomblin <ptomblin(a)xcski.com> wrote: > Is there any way to suppress those "List*" headers. One of the > people on my mailing lists is complaining that they seem to be > forcing his email to be HTML. (He uses Eudora.) http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.001.htp -- J C Lawrence Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. ---------(*) He lived as a devil, eh? claw(a)kanga.nu Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Reviled did I live; evil I did deliver.

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Post by non-member to a members-only list
by Bill Moseley Nov. 27, 2001

Nov. 27, 2001

I checked the FAQ, and the other faqw-mm I'm looking for a way to just bounce non-member posts, saying that they are not a member and they need to subscribe if they want to post. These don't need admin action. The problem with the current setup is people post (often from a different email address), get a message back saying their message is awaiting approval, and then subscribe (or change email addresses) and resend. Then the admin approves and there is a duplicate message. Speaking of which, it would be a nice feature for subscribers to setup aliases so they can post from different accounts, but it looks like they are posting from their main email address. This is good for people that post from work or home with different addresses. Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Administrative Requests
by miket＠scitechsoft.com Nov. 27, 2001

Nov. 27, 2001

On 26 Nov 2001, at 16:38, Jon Carnes wrote: > I think you will have to edit the source and add whatever key words you want > to include. In general you can edit any of the files that end in .py and > later, when python runs the corresponding .pyc file, it will check the > source file and see that it has a newer date, and then recompile that file > before running it. Yea I ithink I have found the correct source: /home/mailman/Mailman/Utils.py The (admin_data =) section seems to hold the key words. Would you happen to know why some lists would treat this differntly. the list options are the same and it treats this differently, "Am I missing something?". Thanks MikeT > > The .py files are fairly will documented and readable. Be sure to save a > backup of any file you modify - just in case... > > Jon Carnes > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <miket(a)scitechsoft.com> > To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:47 PM > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Administrative Requests > > > > > > Administrative requests for mailing list: > > > > How can I add key words that will get flagged and put into this > > catagory. As of no I get messages her if a post contains help in > > the subject. I would also like to flag remove, unsubscribe, and > > take me off your list. > > > > Thanks for your help > > MikeT > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber names
by J C Lawrence Nov. 27, 2001

Nov. 27, 2001

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:54:16 -0500 Greg Ward <gward(a)mems-exchange.org> wrote: > I've just added a new entry to the FAQ Wizard: > 3.2. How can I track subscriber's real names? Nice. I've updated and extended it a bit. Umm, actually I updated and extended most of the current FAQ entries as well as adding a couple. Barry: Mind adding a "General Questions" section? The MTA/LDA/MDA Q and others should go in there. > In particular, can Mailman 2.1 track real names? Yes. Note that this is unreliable (The value of the GECOS field is neither controlled or auditable). -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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