Mailman 3 May 2001 - Mailman-Users

help
by nilesh_cne＠yahoo.com 02 May '01

02 May '01

Can someone help me... Can I send an HTML mail to the mail list. Will they receive the mail in HTML format. Kindly help. Nilesh --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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by Nilesh Patil 02 May '01

02 May '01

Hi, Can someone help if i want to send HTML pages to subscription list how should i go Nilesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Big problems with stale lockfiles on large list...
by Nigel Metheringham 02 May '01

02 May '01

Someone wrote (I got completely lost with the attributions in this and can't find the original):- > I ran into a strange little problem today -- I'm using time() to > generate a filename for a temporary directory. Works great; until > you start running multiple processes on a 2 CPU machine. I started > having two processes get the same time() value (which is > impossible on a single CPU system) and fight over the same > directory. I'm now doing a random() based sleep to get away from > this. claw(a)kanga.nu said: > Bad bad bad bad. You've just decreased the incidence of collisions, > not their fact or possibility. The standard *nix approach is to use > the process ID which is guaranteed unique. If you're not running an > *ix, just have one process use numerically even tempfile names, and > the other odd. Actually you would be better advised to go the Maildir filename approach - the filename is made up of the time(), the pid and a machine specifier of some form. That won't have clashes unless you can wind through your pids in under a second (although the current proposals for random pids worries me somewhat). Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham(a)InTechnology.co.uk ] [ Phone: +44 1423 850000 Fax +44 1423 858866 ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ]

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Big problems with stale lockfiles on large list...
by J C Lawrence 02 May '01

02 May '01

On Tue, 01 May 2001 21:28:03 -0700 Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui(a)plaidworks.com> wrote: > On 5/1/01 8:52 PM, "Barry A. Warsaw" <barry(a)digicool.com> wrote: >> I've avoid that because of NFS issues, i.e. if you've got >> multiple Mailman installations sharing an NFS partition, the pids >> aren't relevant. > If you have that, don't you have chaos anyway? Is the create&link > lock style reliable over NFS in the first place? Isn't putting > locks from multiple machiens in the same directory just a plain > old bad idea? The only operation guaranteed as unique under NFS is creat(). That pretty well limits the options. > I ran into a strange little problem today -- I'm using time() to > generate a filename for a temporary directory. Works great; until > you start running multiple processes on a 2 CPU machine. I started > having two processes get the same time() value (which is > impossible on a single CPU system) and fight over the same > directory. I'm now doing a random() based sleep to get away from > this. Bad bad bad bad. You've just decreased the incidence of collisions, not their fact or possibility. The standard *nix approach is to use the process ID which is guaranteed unique. If you're not running an *ix, just have one process use numerically even tempfile names, and the other odd. -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ --=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--

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Administrators subscribing via email...
by Pug Bainter 02 May '01

02 May '01

Good Morning, Okay. I've done a number of searches and I've done a lot of different attempts, and I can't figure this out for the life of me. How can a list administrator use the email interface to subscribe and/or unsubscribe users without a confirmation going out to the user? They can do this via the webpage, but I can't figure out how to do it via the email interface. I found an odd page in German which refered to something in mailman (new or old I don't know) that would let them do: approve <listpasswd> subscribe <emailaddress> but this didn't work at all. I tried to put the Approved: header in, but this didn't work. Is it possible or do I need to start coding? Ciao, -- Pug Bainter | AMD, Inc. System Engineer, MTS | Mail Stop 625 Pug.Bainter(a)amd.com | pug(a)pug.net | 5900 E. Ben White Blvd Phone: (512) 602-0364 | Fax: (512) 602-6970 | Austin, TX 78741 Note: The views may not reflect my employers, or even my own for that matter.

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(no subject)
by Nilesh Patil 02 May '01

02 May '01

hi everyone i want to know how can insert a mailing list into mailaman database. i have email address in text file. thanx Nilesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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Setting up
by steve＠vision-games.com 01 May '01

01 May '01

I'm trying to set up a news list where only admins can post. I want to be able to change the welcome email messages in order to remove the prompt about where to post messages. How can I set this list up as a non-discussion list? -Steve White Co-Founder Vision Games

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RaQ3
by Phil Taylor 01 May '01

01 May '01

Is anyone running MailMan on a Cobalt Raq3 server? Any things I should know?? Any problems? Phil.

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Re: Prohibiting Local Access to Archives
by Kenneth Jacker 01 May '01

01 May '01

Just a quick note to thank all of those who replied to my query. A lot of good ideas! Once I get through final exams, I'll try your suggestions. In addition, I'll send a summary to the mailing list. Thanks again, -- Prof Kenneth H Jacker khj(a)cs.appstate.edu Computer Science Dept www.cs.appstate.edu/~khj Appalachian State Univ Boone, NC 28608 USA

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Admin pages horribly slow...
by Graham TerMarsch 01 May '01

01 May '01

Well, sorta managed to solve the problem that I was having with the stale lockfiles. General consensus on responses seemed to be "erase the stale lockfiles", rather than helping provide any information on how to prevent them in the first place. SO, I ended up setting up a script to watch for stale locks and remove them as soon as it finds any. HOWEVER, I'm now running into another situation that I'm looking for suggestions on. With Mailman-2.0.1 and a 65k subscriber list, _all_ of the administrative pages are horribly slow to load. Even the initial "subscribe" pages that people post to when adding themselves to the list are slow. I ended up having to crank up the webserver timeouts to 20 minutes to try to avoid the dangling lockfile problem, and quite frequently I can sit there waiting over a minute for one of the administrative pages to generate. Isn't a high traffic list, though; only gets at most one posting a day. Any suggestions on how to fine-tune the lockfile timeouts or other internal Mailman settings to try to increase the performance of the admin scripts? -- Graham TerMarsch

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Mailman-Users May 2001