Mailman 3 May 2001 - Mailman-Users

Mailman rules
by Cyberdude Murli May 27, 2001

May 27, 2001

This is too good. I feel stupid that I was not using it since day 1. An addition to the INSTALL is required. I had to remark # include <linux/errno.h> in /usr/include/..errno.h wrapper does not compile otherwise. rgrds, Cyberdude Murli The Earth

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Creating an announcement list?
by Matt Staroscik May 27, 2001

May 27, 2001

I'm trying to create a read-only list, where people can sign up to receive announcements and *can not post*, but I am not seeing an easy way to do this with mailman. At least not gracefully. I have read the sections of the manual regarding the "reply_goes_to_list" and "hide sender" config options, but that looks like a kludge; someone can still address a message to the list manually. It looks like the only way to set up a read-only list is to require approval for all posts, and then just … [View More]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Error sending new owner mail
by Mike T. Gholson May 27, 2001

May 27, 2001

And, nothing in my mail logs. -----Original Message----- From: Mike T. Gholson Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 11:46 PM To: Juha Saarinen Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Error sending new owner mail Yes, Sendmail. It's working great.... Just not with this program for some reason. -----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha@saarinen.org] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 11:45 PM To: Mike T. Gholson Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-… [View More]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Error sending new owner mail
by Mike T. Gholson May 27, 2001

May 27, 2001

Yes, Sendmail. It's working great.... Just not with this program for some reason. -----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha@saarinen.org] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 11:45 PM To: Mike T. Gholson Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Error sending new owner mail On Sat, 26 May 2001, Mike T. Gholson wrote: > ----------------------------- > File: /home/mailman/logs/smtp > ----------------------------- > May 26 23:33:00 2001 (1150) All … [View More]

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Error sending new owner mail
by Mike T. Gholson May 27, 2001

May 27, 2001

I just completed my installation of Mailman. I'm using a Redhat 7.1 on a PIII 600 - 128mb. Sendmail is working and I've got Python 1.5.2. I walked through the INSTALL, README.LINUX, and FAQ. Now, here's the prob. I run the bin/newlist and it attempts to create the list just fine. Here's the syntax: -------------------------------------------------------------------- >[root@fairlady logs]# /home/mailman/bin/newlist >Enter the name of the list: test8 >Enter the email of the person … [View More]running the list: mike(a)mgdesign.net >Initial test8 password: >Entry for aliases file: > >## test8 mailing list >## created: 26-May-2001 root >test8: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post test8" >test8-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test8" >test8-request: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd test8" >test8-owner: test8-admin > >Hit enter to continue with test8 owner notification... -------------------------------------------------------------------- And...... The owner (me) never receive the message. My error logs look like this: ----------------------------- File: /home/mailman/logs/post ----------------------------- May 26 23:33:15 2001 (1151) post to test8 from mailman-owner(a)240z.org, size=1303, 1 failures May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) post to test6 from mailman-owner(a)fairlady.240z.org, size=1319, 1 failures May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) post to test8 from mailman-owner(a)240z.org, size=1303, 1 failures ----------------------------- File: /home/mailman/logs/smtp ----------------------------- May 26 23:33:00 2001 (1150) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 26 23:33:00 2001 (1150) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.003 seconds May 26 23:33:15 2001 (1151) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 26 23:33:15 2001 (1151) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.004 seconds May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.004 seconds May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.003 seconds May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused') May 26 23:34:00 2001 (1175) smtp for 1 recips, completed in 0.003 seconds ------------------------------------- File: /home/mailman/logs/smtp-failure ------------------------------------- May 26 22:51:01 2001 (4969) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:51:01 2001 (4969) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:51:01 2001 (4969) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:51:01 2001 (4969) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:51:01 2001 (4969) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:52:01 2001 (4982) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:52:01 2001 (4982) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:52:01 2001 (4982) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) May 26 22:52:01 2001 (4982) -1 mike(a)mgdesign.net (ignore) What could be the problem? -- Mike [View Less]

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Questions about mailpasswds
by Sarah K. Miller May 27, 2001

May 27, 2001

I have a couple of questions about the mailpasswds. First is about the section; # constrain to specified lists, if any confined_to = sys.argv[1:] Does this mean I can specify which lists to send passwords for? If so, how do I include or exclude specific lists? My second questions is about: # Use this list for message delivery only a_public_list = None Does this mean that I can specify which list on my system the monthly reminders appear to be coming from? If so, how? … [View More]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Vhosts with Mailman 2.05
by JC Dill May 26, 2001

May 26, 2001

On 11:02 PM 5/19/01, Darron Froese wrote: >On 5/17/01 2:20 AM, "N6REJ" <n6rej(a)tcsn.net> wrote: > >> Hello all. >> Pardon me for really sounding lame, but I'm having a heck of a time finding >> any documentation that explains how to modify mailman so that it will answer >> for vhosts also. > >Everything you need has been posted to the list multiple times. Apparently you assume the person is subscribed to the list, which isn't necessarily … [View More]true (and if you have been subscribed for any length of time you would obviously know this because the open nature of this list has been a hot topic of discussion in the not-too-distant-past). Then you assume the person has been subscribed for long enough to have seen the question pass by, which is pretty likely to be false (or else, why ask the question at all?). Finally, if you think saying "go search the list archives before posting" is a good rebuttal to my 2 items above, why don't you try doing it yourself and then see if it's an answer? (Note, the search function has been fixed somewhat since I wrote this, but is still flawed in that you need specific instructions on how to search to get good results.) (And then think about how a *non-subscriber* is supposed to even know of the existence or location of the archives in the first place...) This list has a lot of traffic problems created by "how people find and post to the list". The first problem is that it's regularly used in place of a FAQ because no one has made a FAQ readily available (in the way the list posting address is readily available). Solution? Link to the FAQ pages before giving out the list email address on the mailman website (give out the email address only at the bottom of a FAQ TOC page) and link to the FAQ in the readme, instead of giving out this address. <jc waves her hand and offers to help compile an official FAQ if using the unofficial FAQs that already exist isn't acceptable> The second problem is that the list archives are not easily or readily searchable (recently fixed, somewhat), so if the question isn't a "frequently asked" one, but the answer *is* somewhere in the archives, it isn't easily found, so we get the question here again. Solution? Better archive search feature. Again, link to the "search the archives" page first, before giving out the "post to the list" address. The third problem is that the software itself doesn't clearly encourage people to read the FAQs and webpages that already exist before posting to this list. For instance, the excellent website at: <http://www.aurora.edu/~ckolar/mailman/> is found in the readme, but not on the mailman website, while the email address for posting to this list is found on the website, in fact it's on the website's homepage. When you install mailman you may install it in a different location from where you uncompressed it. If so, the readme will remain where you uncompressed it and NOT be included in the install directory, so you will have a harder time *finding* the readme when you are poking around in your installed mailman files looking for answers. Solution? The readme needs to be put with the install files when the program is installed, and needs to point to web-accessible solutions before giving people an email address to ask that which has already been asked, (and answered, and is readily available if we would just LINK TO IT and point people to it!). Finally, since I happen to have a local archive of posts to this list since I subscribed, I quickly searched my archive and forwarded 2 posts to the OP (including one that was written by Darron and posted to this list a few days ago) that will hopefully help get him pointed in the correct direction. See how helpful and easy that was? jc [View Less]

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Vhosts with Mailman 2.05
by N6REJ May 26, 2001

May 26, 2001

Hello all. Pardon me for really sounding lame, but I'm having a heck of a time finding any documentation that explains how to modify mailman so that it will answer for vhosts also. for example, the servers domain is worldspecialt.net however, I want to be able to send emails to lists that reside at staff.worldspecialt.net, gcdb.org, etc.... I'm sure there must be a straightforward way to do this, and that I'm just overlooking the obvisous. I'm using apache 1.3.19 and postfix. Also, can we make … [View More]

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Members email addresses
by lkhst May 26, 2001

May 26, 2001

Hi, I got 'Show member addrs so they're not directly recognizable as email addrs?' as yes, and 'Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields)' as no in my list setup, yet the members addresses does not show in the archives. I did try the first one as no too, yet still members addresses do not show in the archives. Anything I should do so the addresses are visible in the archives? thanks, s

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Just a thought about read-only lists...
by Mike Cisar May 26, 2001

May 26, 2001

This is just a bit of a random thought about the topic of read-only mailing lists, and I may be off to left field if this is something that is already planned for 2.1 (I'll admit I only skim this list, and didn't really even know 2.1 was in the works until I happened to glance at a post today). Anyway... it seems that every few days there is a post from someone who is asking how to implement a read-only list (and now that I think about it about lists that users cannot unsubscribe from). Now I'… [View More]

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