Mailman 3 July 2001 - Mailman-Users

Not able to modify options
by Christian Billette July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

Hi, I just installed Mailman and tried to change options of a test list but after submitting the changes nothing append. I go back to the options pages and there is no changes. Merci ! Christian B.

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New user?
by Julie Bolshaw July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

I am a subscriber on a mail list that uses Mailman. I would like to get a mail list started for another group that I belong to. I have been all through your web site but it sounds incredibly complicated. I feel as though I am in over my head trying to figure out whether or not it is something we can utilize. Is it much more simple than I anticipate and I just don't understand the terminology? Please help. I have very much enjoyed being part of a list that uses your software and think it is a great product. Julie Bolshaw

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Why does Mailman have a queue?
by Greg Ward July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

Apologies if this is an FAQ, but I have checked the FAQ list and did some cursory scans of the (frighteningly voluminous!) list archives a while back. Anyways, I've been wondering for some time why Mailman is designed around a once-per-minute queue run. Seems to me that this is the MTA's job -- and in fact, if things are going well (ie. if you follow the advice of FAQ #2 and turn off Exim's receiver_verify option, as I recently did ;-), then qrunner simply transfers Mailman's queue en masse to the MTA, which in turn will add problem messages to its queue. So why the extra queue? Why not just pass messages off to the MTA as soon as they're received? If this has been thrashed out before, just point me at the old thread (or, better, documentation) and I'll shut up ... Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer gward(a)mems-exchange.org MEMS Exchange http://www.mems-exchange.org

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Tall Order - Photos
by J C Lawrence July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Brett Delmage <brett(a)cfsc.ottawa.on.ca> wrote: > I am curious about this too, as I would like to set up a specific > list that allows MIME and html, specifically so that photographic > information and drawings could be easily conveyed. Anyone > subscribing to this list would have the expectation that they > would receive these types of messages. It would be desirable to be > able to view messages and attachements in the web mail archive. Not a problem. > I am a big fan of plain text messages, but I do think that there > is an important need for something like a mail list and archiver > that handles messages with attachments well. Use an external archiver that properly handles MIME. I'm a fan of (and use) MHonArc: http://www.mhonarc.org/ As you can see here it handles such archiving quite nicely: http://www.kanga.nu/archives/Noted-L/2001Q3/msg00031.php (Yes, those are MHonArc based archives of a Mailman list) -- J C Lawrence )\._.,--....,'``. ---------(*) /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. claw(a)kanga.nu `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Oh Freddled Gruntbuggly

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Mail Not Delivered To List Members
by Travis Rail July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

I have a list called "domains-knet". When ever I send a test message to the list none of the members get the email. In my mail log I have the following line. Jul 30 10:08:16 tuttle sendmail[1234]: f6UF8FV01233: to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post domains-knet", ctladdr=<domains-knet(a)kansas.net> (2/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=30630, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent It looks like everything went ok, yet not delivery happened. Also, there are no errors reported in my mailman logs. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Travis Rail - Linux Admin / Technician - tarail(a)kansas.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Fox Business Systems / 531 Ft. Riley Blvd / Phone: (785) 776-1452 Kansas Net Internet / Manhattan, KS 66502 / +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ (o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ //\ //\ //\ //\ //\ //\ //\ //\ //\ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_ V_/_

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Tall Order - Photos
by Rob Brandt July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

Hi. I'm getting my mailman running nicely now - thanks to all of your help. The primary purpose of having a list manager is to manage lists relating to my business, but I've had a request from my high school alumni association to manage a mailing list for the alumni too. They want to do some "cool" stuff like allow html messages, and even handle attached photos. Despite my discouragement, they persist :'(. I guess rules we meant to be broken, huh? Actually, I'm pleased with how mailman is handling it. I've done some test posting of html formatted messages and some with photos, and they actually come through well. I'm especially impressed that the headers and footers are surviving html messages - I've used some other list managers and participated in other lists where you can guarantee that this won't work. What isn't working is the digests and archives. The html messages show all of the tags and the photos display as text - not as an actual photo. It seems to me that this is something that should work, in theory. Does it, and I just don't have something set correctly? Or has the issue not been addressed? Or is it planned for a future version? I know this is an issue that normally is off the radar because we don't want anything but pure text messages, but in this instance it does truly seem useful. TIA Rob

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Smrsh
by Gary de Montigny July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

I recently upgraded from Mandrake 8 to Slackware 8 and then to Mailman v2.0.6 and get the following errors when sending mail. > Too many errors encountered; the rest of the message is ignored: > Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. (Reconfigure to take 2?) > 554 5.3.0 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post nla"... unknown mailer error 2 The strange thing about the above is when I compiled mailman I added the following to configure before compiling. --with-mail-gid=mail --with-cgi-gid=nobody During compiling I could see that both the mail and cgi gid were included. With Mandrake I had an /etc/smrsh directory and this is when I placed the wrapper pointing to the mailman wrapper. With Slackware there is no directory. I found the Slackware smrsh in /usr/sbin/smrsh. Where should I now place the symlink to the mailman wrapper? Any idea? Thanks -- / Gary de Montigny / gjd(a)telesoft.ca / TeleSoft Systems / www.telesoft.ca

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How to not hold msgs for admin approval
by Michael Olivier July 31, 2001

July 31, 2001

At 11:28 AM 7/29/2001 -0400, David Ball wrote: > After turning up few results by searching the archives, thought >I'd ask here, as I'm sure umpteen others have run across the same thing. >I'm unable to locate any options which would cause mailman to immediately >discard any message not sent from someone already on the list. A few of >my lists get an inordinately large amount of spam, and they'd love to not >have to discard all of them every day or 2. Any ideas or help would be >much appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time. I have the very same problem & recently asked about this. Barry said he's added it back to the 2.1 feature list. It's not available as of right now. --Michael

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what DB format is config.db?
by Greg Schnippel July 30, 2001

July 30, 2001

I'm trying to hack config.db and was wondering if anyone knew what DB format the file was.. ? Thanx, -schnippy

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admin links wrong
by Ellen Spertus July 30, 2001

July 30, 2001

>> Conversely if you go to >> http://www.tertius.net.au/mailman/admin/ the link back to the >> regular overview page points to /listinfo instead of >> /mailman/listinfo > Yes, your web_page_url attribute doesn't end in a slash. This is a known > problem which should be fixed were you to upgrade. In lieu of that, > make sure all your list's web_page_url attributes end in a slash. I'm having the same problem and, as far as I can tell, my web_page_url attributes do end in a slash. Specifically, the Base URL (last item) on the admin page for the list is listed as: http://javamlm.mills.edu/mailman/. The following appears in Default.py: DEFAULT_URL = 'http://javamlm.mills.edu/mailman/' I'd be grateful for any clue as to what else I should check, or what I've got wrong. Ellen

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