Mailman 3 July 2001 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail server
by Chad＠Balius.com July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

At 12:01 PM 07/05/2001, Amanda wrote: >Karl, > >Most of the information you need is included in the documentation. :-) > > >From experience, I can tell you that Drake 8 doesn't (easily) install with a >lot of the stuff that, IMO, should've been included. Also some of the stuff >that comes with the distribution is a little out-of-date, has security issues, >etc. Save yourself a little work and ditch the Apache 1.3.19 that comes with >the distribution - get 1.3.20 … [View More]and set it up as standalone; get yourself an MTA >other than the evil version of sendmail that comes with Mandrake (I'm using >qmail, but other folks use other MTA's quite happily), and to avoid having one >hand tied behind your back when troubleshooting, you might want to set up >xinetd for telnet (and install telnet, if you don't have it). Suggestion - do not use telnet, better to have it disabled or not even installed on your machine. Use SSH instead, provides the same functionality but over an encrypted connection. Take a look at http://www.openssh.org/. As for MTA, the default sendmail that comes on RHL (as of 6.2) is good for basic stuff. Out of the box it configured not to be an open relay. Years ago the default configuration was that of an open relay and closing it down was very difficult, much easier now. Have fun and enjoy.... Regards, Chad >Beyond that, all I can say is read the instructions for everything three times >before you do anything. Linux documentation has rightfully earned its >reputation as being confusing at best; outdated and incorrect as its norm; and >at worst, far worse than useless as it leads you down a primrose path... > >=) >Amanda > > >Karl Carlile wrote: > > > I have downloaded mailman and hope to turn my p3 pc into a mailserver. What > > else will i need to accomplish this task in the form of software. I have > > linux mandrake 8 and have successfully installed it. > > > > The mailing list will be a low volumed list so this should make the demands > > even less. > > > > Karl > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users _\|/_ (o o) ----------------------------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------ Chad M Stewart cms(a)balius.com Packet filtering for Linux http://packetfilter.amotken.com/ IPChains mailing list http://packetfilter.amotken.com/ml/ "...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)." (By Matt Welsh) --------------------------------------------------------------- [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong email addresses leading to mail-loops
by J C Lawrence July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:18:52 +0200 Michael Dosser <mic(a)t0.or.at> wrote: >> Problem description: Whenever a members email address is wrong, >> e.g. bla@.bla.org or whenever a local email adress has no mailbox >> qrunner tries to deliver x-times to all members, which it has >> reached until the wrong email address. It obviously stops when we >> delete the files in $MAILMANHOME/qfiles. But this cannot be the > >> solution since nobody is sitting … [View More]

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How Mailman related to...
by Charles Iliya Krempeaux July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

Hello, (I am a newbie and) I have some questions about how Mailman works. Specifically, how it relates to other pieces of software. For example, how does Mailman relate to pieces of software like Sendmail, Qmail, exim, and PostFix? In my (probably naive) understanding, these are the actual Mail Servers. They are the SMTP server, and the POP3 or IMAP server. Does Mailman work with these?... as an add-on? Or does it replace these? Also, how does Mailman relate to something like Procmail. (… [View More]

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Adding a search function to archives...
by Jean-Sebastien Morisset July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

I'd like to add a search function to the mailing list archives. My plan is to simply edit the HTML template and add a form which points to google ("as_q" is the search string, and "as_sitesearch" limits the search to a URL like "http://lists.mvlan.net/pipermail/rcf-users/"). I've looked in the ./templates sub-directory, but couldn't find the appropriate file to edit. Does someone know which file I should edit? Thanks, js. -- Jean-Sebastien Morisset, Sr. UNIX Administrator <jsmoriss(a)… [View More]

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Wrong email addresses leading to mail-loops
by Michael Dosser July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

Hello dear list members! We were running mailman 2.02beta and moved to new a new server (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, sendmail 8.11.4 and mailman 2.03). all lists are working fine. Problem description: Whenever a members email address is wrong, e.g. bla@.bla.org or whenever a local email adress has no mailbox qrunner tries to deliver x-times to all members, which it has reached until the wrong email address. It obviously stops when we delete the files in $MAILMANHOME/qfiles. But this cannot be the … [View More]solution since nobody is sitting there watching postmaster mails every second ;) Anyway: this is very annoying since lots of members unsubscribed after this has happened ... uhm, and: yes, we have bounce options activated on every list with the options: "5","3","5","disable and notify me". Secound uhm: yes, I searched the archive, but have not found anything similar. Question: Is this a bug in mailman 2.03 or did i make some configuration errors? If the latter is the case, I added the servers configuration below, hope that's not to much ... Settings: mm_cfg.py: DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'mailman.domain.bla' DEFAULT_URL = 'http://mailman.domain.bla/mailman/' MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner(a)xxx.xxx' PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = '/pipermail' PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/private' MAX_SPAWNS = 100 SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 100 DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail' SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/sbin/sendmail' Sendmail: First looks up the virtusertable and maps then to aliases. All local users have a virtusertable entry and for every domain we have we put a @domain.bla error:nouser User unknown We have cyrus as the local delivery agent. config.mc: divert(-1) VERSIONID(`$Id: generic-bsd4.4.mc,v 8.11 2001/04/04 16:26:02 mic Exp $')dnl OSTYPE(bsd4.4)dnl DOMAIN(generic)dnl define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw')dnl define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,needmailhelo,noexpn,novrfy')dnl define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', `4d')dnl define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `4h')dnl define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/mail/aliases')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_FLAGS', `SA5@w|')dnl define(`CYRUS_BB_MAILER_FLAGS', `S')dnl define(`confLOCAL_MAILER', `cyrus')dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/local/cyrus/bin/deliver')dnl define(`CERT_DIR', `MAIL_SETTINGS_DIR`'certs')dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH', `/etc/mail/certs/netbase')dnl define(`confCACERT', `CERT_DIR/netbase/CAcert.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT', `CERT_DIR/netbase/cert.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY', `CERT_DIR/netbase/key.pem')dnl define(`confCLIENT_CERT', `CERT_DIR/netbase/cert.pem')dnl define(`confCLIENT_KEY', `CERT_DIR/netbase/key.pem')dnl define(`confRUN_AS_USER',`root:mail')dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl FEATURE(`domaintable')dnl FEATURE(`genericstable')dnl FEATURE(`mailertable')dnl FEATURE(`redirect')dnl FEATURE(`use_cw_file')dnl FEATURE(`access_db')dnl FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl FEATURE(`virtusertable')dnl FEATURE(`dnsbl')dnl FEATURE(`delay_checks')dnl FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl MAILER(local)dnl MAILER(`smtp') MAILER(`cyrus') LOCAL_RULE_0 R$=N $: $#local $: $1 R$=N < @ $=w . > $: $#local $: $1 Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . > $#cyrusbb $: $1 Any help would be appreciated! Thx in advance,mic -- Michael Dosser http://org.netbase.org [View Less]

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail-wrapper: GID_MISMATCH error *** again ***
by Oliver Egginger July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

I wrote: > I have the sense that I am doing something very stupid, ... Yep, I can answer now to my own stupid question. I had set my exim-configuration to do a "su" for every delivery for the analogs user. (Exim runs under "root" rigths.) Thereby exim calls the mail-wrapper with mailman-rigths. After I have set the the "mail-gid" option to "mailman" it began to work. :-) But now I have an another problem... :-( regards Oliver

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how to use CSS style sheets for listinfo and archives
by mi.mailman＠alma.ch July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

I would like to customize the look of the mailman and pipermail pages. The easiest way would seem to be to use style sheets. Is there a way to specify a style sheet link to be added to the headers of pages? It may be have been discussed many times, but web searches don't work on "style sheets" + mailman or pipermail. :-( Thanks,

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How Mailman related to...
by J C Lawrence July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 22:24:20 -0700 Charles Iliya Krempeaux <tnt(a)linux.ca> wrote: > How exactly does a MLM (Mailing List Manager), like Mailman, get > messages from a MTA? The MTA hands the message to Mailman much as if it were an LDA. Typically LDAs work by having the message piped to them on stdin. In Mailman's case it receives the messages on the stdin of various programs and responds accordingly. > The way I am accustomed to seeing an MTA, like Sendmail work, is > … [View More]that it receives an e-mail, and then appends that e-mail to a > user's mbox file. Not quite. The MTA receives the message, likely from another MTA via SMTP. If the message is destined for a local address the MTA then pipes the message to whatever the local LDA is. That LDA then (commonly) appends the message to that user's mbox file (if that's the local configuration etc). > So, is there a special `user account' made for Mailman,... and > Mailman then looks at it's mbox file, and takes `care of business' > that way?... or does it get given the e-mail messages in another > manner. See above. > Also, how does an MLM, like Mailman, handle the e-mail addresses > used for the mailing lists? I would imagine that it is the MTA > that decides what happens for each e-mail address. Correct. > (For example, it could hand it off to the LDA because it knows the > e-mail address belongs to a local user of the system. Or it could > reject the email address because that email address does not > correspond to any user on the system.) Correct. > Do MLMs, like Mailman, simply provide some kind of `front end' or > `abstraction' to the e-mail address handling facilities of the > various different MTAs (like Sendmail, Qmail, exim, PostFix, etc, > that) it works with? Yup. This is commonly done via an alias file that maps email IDs to process pipes. In Mailman's case they map the various mailman-run email addresses to programs that know how to handle messages piped to them appropriately. > (Or am I missing something?) Some MTAs can be configured to work with mailman without use of an alias file to do the address mapping. This is not magic, what is really happening is that the MTA configuration is faking an alias file. IT is looking at the local system in some way and computing the result (eg pipe this message to that Mailman program) exactly as if there were an alias file. -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ I never claimed to be human. [View Less]

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by chdolls＠webtv.net July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

Hi, has there ever been an update on the Michelle Hammel case.Thanks,Sue Henderson

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Re: [Mailman-Users] How Mailman related to...
by Charles Iliya Krempeaux July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

Hello, (Thanks J C Lawrence) that clears up alot of things in my mind, about how all these different pieces of software work together. I do have couple more question though (down below).... J C Lawrence <claw(a)kanga.nu> wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:41:46 -0700 > Charles Iliya Krempeaux <tnt(a)linux.ca> wrote: > >> Specifically, how it relates to other pieces of software. For >> example, how does Mailman relate to pieces of software like >> … [View More]

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