Mailman 3 July 2001 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] How Mailman related to...
by J C Lawrence July 5, 2001

July 5, 2001

On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:41:46 -0700 Charles Iliya Krempeaux <tnt(a)linux.ca> wrote: > Specifically, how it relates to other pieces of software. For > example, how does Mailman relate to pieces of software like > Sendmail, Qmail, exim, and PostFix? Sendmail, QMail, exim, postfix et al are MTAs, Mail Transfer Agents. Mailman is an MLM Mailing List Manager. Mailman takes a message delivered to it by and MTA, proceses it, generates some number of messages addressed to the … [View More]members of the list, and hands those messages back to the MTA. The MTA then arranges delivery of those messages as applicable. > In my (probably naive) understanding, these are the actual Mail > Servers. They are MTAs. The term "mail server" is imprecise at best and actively ambiguous at worst. > They are the SMTP server, and the POP3 or IMAP server. No, they are the MTAs and they are responsible for processing and generating SMTP connections. POP3 and IMAP servers are quite unrelated both architecturally and in function. POP3 and IMAP servers process a mail store -- a place mail is stored for retrieval and use (not transport) -- and represent/present that mail store out to client systems via a defined protocol (POP3 or IMPA). POP3 and IMAP servers are not responsible for or active in the transfer or receipt of messages either between users or systems. > Does Mailman work with these?... as an add-on? Mailman is a mail processing system. It received messages from an MTA, processes them, and may (or not) generate new messages which it hands back to an MTA. Very simple really. > Or does it replace these? There's no functional overlap between Mailman and the other applications you've mentioned. > Also, how does Mailman relate to something like Procmail. Procmail is two things: Procmail is an example of a Local Delivery Agent (LDA), which is the tool/process/program responsible for delivering a message received by an MTA to a local user acount or process. LDAs are run by an MTA when it realises that a given message has arrived at its destination system and needs to be handled locally somehow. Procmail is a mail filtering tool. It can do this as part of its LDA duties, but many also use this as part of mail automation systems after the LDA has processed a message and "sent" it to the appropriate local mail store. Procmail has the ability to extract various data from messages, compare them, and make decisions based on those comparisons. It also has the ability to run external programs against a given message. > (Not that I completely understand how Procmail works. But I > believe it is an add-on to Sendmail, that does various kinds of > filtering.) Procmail is not an add-on to sendmail. Procmail can be used with sendmail as the LDA but does not need to be. Sendmail also comes packaged with a default small-featured LDA. Many people muddy the waters here by using their MTA's default LDA to pass messages to procmail for final delivery/handling. ie: (message)--->MTA--->LDA--->procmail This is usually done through a ".forward" file in their home directory which the MTA's LDA looks for, recognises, and processes the contents of to deliver a message. A sample .forward might contain: "| procmail -f -" Which instructs the LDA to pass the current message to procmail on stdin. -- J C Lawrence claw(a)kanga.nu ---------(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ I never claimed to be human. [View Less]

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Help Needed
by designs_creatorsdesign_com July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

If I manually subscribe someone to my mailing list, they do not have an opportunity to choose a password. How, then, can they unsubscribe themselves? Is there a way to configure the list so that people can enter their email address WITHOUT NEEDING A PASSWORD AT ALL, and have Mailman unsubscribe them automatically? Thanks... Deana Van Fleet CreatorsDesign designs(a)creatorsdesign.com

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machine lockups anyone ?
by David Ball July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

First time poster, long time reader.... I haven't determined the exact cause, but since I've started using mailman 2.0.3 on my RedHat 6.2/Sendmail 8.9.3 machine, I've had at least 3 machine lockups in as many months. /var/log/messages says very little, except for VM killing all my daemons gradually, assumedly because the machine is short on resources. The most prominent processes being killed are python processes. Below I've included the mailman log entry that most closely matches the time … [View More]

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attachments
by Donald Grant July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

Hi, I'm an administrator on Hibsmail(a)hibs-online.net and we are using mailman to run the list. We have a problem in so far as we need to be able to ban attachments being sent with emails but don't seem to be able to do it. This is required primarily to prevent the possible spread of viruses and also to comply with list members employers LAN mailing rules. Can you advise as to how we may resolve this problem. yours Donald Grant

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Installing mailman
by Mariela Rocha July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

Hi, I´m Mariela Rocha of Universidad Tecnológica Nacional (Argentina) and I have a problem when I run the command ./configure with the version of the Python program. This is the response of the command: castor:/usr/local/bin/mailman-2.0.5# ./configure --with-python=/usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2 loading cache ./config.cache checking for --with-python... /usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2 checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2 checking Python version... ./configure: /usr/local/bin/… [View More]

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Please help with this error message
by Ww4477＠aol.com July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

I am running Mailman from my web site it was working OK until yesterday, I cant send any messages to any of my 4 mailing list I get the same error message, if anyone can please give me detailed instructions on how to fix the problem. This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/… [View More]

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Error decoding authorization cookie
by Christian Billette July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

Hi ! When I go the authentification page of a list, this error appear on top of the page, Error decoding authorization cookie. Thank you ! Christian B. Network Administrator Visuaide, inc.

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Problems with archive
by Stig Petterson July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

I got Mailman 2.0b6 running on FreeBSD 4.2 / Sendmail If the archive-option is turned off via the web-interface, everything works just fine - all the subscribers gets their mail. But if I turn the archive-option on, all messages are being held in the /qfiles/ directory and the error-log gets filled up with text like: Jul 04 13:20:01 2001 (20761) Archive file access failure: /usr/local/mailman/archives/private/list.mbox/list.mbox (0, 'Error') Jul 04 13:20:01 2001 (20761) Delivery … [View More]

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RH 7.1, Mailman 2.0.5, Cron - qrunner+gate_news
by Josef Mikota July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

Hi folks, I've fixed it. What I did was to run the command % /home/mailman/cron/crontab crontab.in as root. Now everything seems to work fine. Thanks, Josef Josef Mikota Department of Foundations of Machine Design Johannes Kepler University of Linz mailto:mikota@mechatronik.uni-linz.ac.at ICQ: 17407140 www: http://aml.mechatronik.uni-linz.ac.at/josef/ TEL: +43 732 2468-9749 FAX: +43 732 2468-9753 postal: Altenbergerstr. 69, 4040 Linz, Austria

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mail-wrapper: GID_MISMATCH error *** again ***
by Oliver Egginger July 4, 2001

July 4, 2001

Many thanks for your help so far... Devdas Bhagat wrote: > Documented in the install document. Recompile mailman with the correct > mail-gid option. I did it. I set it to "mail", because this GID is compiled into my exim-MTA. If I execute a "su mail" and enter: "./wrapper mailcmd test-list" it seems to work, i.e. it caused no GID_MISMATCH Error. J C Lawrence wrote: > Have you read Nigel's Mailman/Exim HOWTO? back and forth... Here is the Exim-test-output for my first mailman list "… [View More]test-list": ------------------------------------------------------------ ~/$ exim -v -bt test-list test-list(a)mailserv2.dvz.fh-giessen.de deliver to test-list in domain mailserv2.dvz.fh-giessen.de director = list_director, transport = list_transport ~/$ exim -v -bt test-list-request test-list-request(a)mailserv2.dvz.fh-giessen.de deliver to test-list in domain mailserv2.dvz.fh-giessen.de director = list_request_director, transport = list_request_transport ~/$ exim -v -bt test-list-admin test-list-admin(a)mailserv2.dvz.fh-giessen.de deliver to test-list in domain mailserv2.dvz.fh-giessen.de director = list_admin_director, transport = list_admin_transport ------------------------------------------------------------ As you can see, exim works proper. But if I send a mail to the list, I see the following error-message in the exim-monitor: 09:35:35 15HmoZ-0003mQ-00 ** test-list-request(a)mailserv2.dvz.fh-giessen.de D=list_request_director T=list_request_transport: Child process of list_request_transport transport returned 2 from command: /home/mailman/mail/wrapper 09:35:36 15HmoZ-0003mV-00 <= <> R=15HmoZ-0003mQ-00 U=mail P=local S=2708 I supposed that returncode 2 means GID_MISMATCH, cause I found this in the sources: ------------------------------------------------------------ /* exit codes, so it's easier to distinguish what caused fatal errors when * looking at syslogs. */ #define GID_MISMATCH 2 #define SETREGID_FAILURE 3 #define EXECVE_FAILURE 4 #define MAIL_USAGE_ERROR 5 #define MAIL_ILLEGAL_COMMAND 6 #define ADDALIAS_USAGE_ERROR 7 ------------------------------------------------------------ My access rights for the relevant directory & file are shown in the following directory entries: drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 1024 Jul 3 17:10 mail/ -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 38814 Jul 3 17:10 wrapper* I changed them many times, tried almost every combination; group and ownership too. I have the sense that I am doing something very stupid, but the only chance I have by now, is to debug wrapper.c . :( Can anyone see my error and direct me to the right point ? regards Oliver -- Oliver Egginger FH Giessen-Friedberg DV-Zentrum Wiesenstrasse 14 35390 Giessen Tel. +49 641 309-1283 Fax +49 641 309-2908 Mail: Oliver.Egginger(a)dvz.fh-giessen.de **************************************************** Sprechzeiten des DV-Zentrums fuer E-Mail-Angelegenheiten: Mo 8:30 - 11:15 Uhr Di 11:30 - 13:30 Uhr Mi 11:30 - 13:30 Uhr Do 8:30 - 13:30 Uhr **************************************************** [View Less]

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