Mailman 3 October 2002 - Mailman-Users

bouncing not detected?
by Greg Westin 03 Oct '02

03 Oct '02

On one of our lists, posters receive bounce messages from some users that apparently don't exist, but Mailman doesn't pick it up. Those e-mail addresses aren't subscribed to the list, so I assume someone is forwarding their e-mail, but I don't know of any way to figure out which user that might be. Any ideas? Thanks, Greg -- greg(a)gregwestin.com http://www.gregwestin.com Contact info: http://www.gregwestin.com/contact.php

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International headers.
by Dmitri Gofmekler 03 Oct '02

03 Oct '02

Hello Dear Mailman Users and authors, I have a small problem with an archived messages with international headers. Is it possible to see normal (decoded) subject instead this one: =?koi8-r?B?8MXS18HRINfF0tPJ0SDMydPUwSDHz9TP18Eu?= Thanks, Dmitri.

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[Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Re: One Button Direct Subscription
by Pankaj K Garg 03 Oct '02

03 Oct '02

Yes, indeed this is the situation I am also in. I have an application, somewhat like SourceForge, where we embed Mailman as the list manager. The user is already logged in to the main application, and we know the user's email address, etc. So, its not very nice to have: (1) separate passwords for each mailing list, and (2) require the user to type in their identity and password for subscription, options editing, and un-subscribe requests. I'm in the process of changing some of the Cgi scripts and making a few changes to Mailman 2.0.9 to remove these aspects for an already authenticated user. If others are interested, I can put a patch together with the latest Mailman code. Regards Pankaj P.S. I am resending this message to mailman-users as my previous reply to the original message from Jim did not make it to this list. That reply was cc'd to Jim, Will, and the mailman-developers list. > -----Original Message----- > From: mailman-users-admin(a)python.org > [mailto:mailman-users-admin@python.org]On Behalf Of Jim Popovitch > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:24 AM > To: Will Yardley; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Re: One Button Direct Subscription > > > Hi Will, > > That is not entirely true. Sometimes you already have the person > authenticated via another fashion (think: online banking > software), and all > that you want to do is have the user subscribe for banking notices by > pressing one button. > > -Jim P. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Will Yardley > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:11 AM > > > > Well in any event, you should confirm the subscription; > otherwise anyone > > can subscribe anyone else to your list. > > > > This is known as confirmed opt-in, and if you don't use a > system like > > this, you're very likely to get booted by your ISP for spamming. > > > > -- > > Will Yardley > > input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers(a)python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman-21/listinfo/mailman-developers

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Can I get messages that I have to approve forwarded to my mail?
by Angel Gabriel 02 Oct '02

02 Oct '02

I think the subject says it all. I'd like to get mesages that I need to approve forwarded to me, because it's possible that I may but five or six of them together in one message, and post that out instead. *** Not everyone is touched by an Angel......and those that are, never forget the experience. *** If you want guest list for bare club nights.....http://raw-talent.bounceme.net/mailman/clubnights *** Can you sing, dance, MC, DJ, do you have talent?Send an email to sign-me(a)raw-talent.bounceme.net ***

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Problem Approving Messages
by Ken Carson 02 Oct '02

02 Oct '02

I have been using mailman for a while now about 1 year or so. I have never had any problems except about 1 week ago. I went to approve some messages on our system (was 2.0.05) and when I clicked on the "Tend to pending administrative requests" link, I get the "Were sorry we hit a bug message". I checked the error logs and I am getting "bad marshal data" errors on the Hold.py and ListAdmin.py. I updated to versio 2.0.13 because I saw some people fixed this problem by doing this, but still get the same error. I also rebuild the offending database. Here is the messages from the error logs: Oct 02 12:55:02 2002 (3429) Delivery exception: bad marshal data Oct 02 12:55:02 2002 (3429) Traceback (innermost last): File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py", line 159, in process hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, NotExplicitlyAllowed) File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py", line 218, in hold_for_approval mlist.HoldMessage(msg, reason, msgdata) File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 145, in HoldMessage self.__opendb() File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 69, in __opendb self.__db = marshal.load(fp) ValueError: bad marshal data This is a production system (redhat 7.1 with postfix) so, I need to get it back functioning properly ASAP. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thanks. -- Ken Carson Heavy

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"Members" vs. "Subscribers"
by Bob Weissman 02 Oct '02

02 Oct '02

This is a linguistic subtlety in the English version of Mailman. Maliman refers to list subscribers as "members," for example when rejecting a post from a "non-member" to a "members-only" list. This terminology is confusing in some circumstances. Here's why. I run lists for a professional, non-profit, organization which has dues-paying members. Not all paying members subscribe to all lists, and not all subscribers are paying members. If a dues-paying member has a posting rejected to what Mailman calls a "members-only" list, he will promptly complain to me that he is, in fact, a "member." And he's right. He's just not a *subscriber* to the list in question. In my own Mailman 2.0.11 installation, I've scoured the sources for user-visible strings and changed "member" to "subscriber" everywhere I thought it was important. I would like to suggest this become an official terminology change for future versions of Mailman. - Bob

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Problems trying to make mailman work
by Mariano Liceaga 02 Oct '02

02 Oct '02

I downloaded the last version from the list.org site, installed it with no problem, configured the cron job and created a test list. The notification to the owner of the list was correctly sent. The problem is when I try to suscribe or ask for help to the list (sending a mail to test-request@myhost with the subjects 'subscribe' or 'help') never receive a confirmation message or any answer at all. The mailman queue directory is empty, so I guess that mailman is not receiving the mails. Mailman is configured in SMTPDirect mode (the default mode).The host in which is running has a web server, firewall and a basic sendmail config where everything that comes from the inner network is relayed to our ISP smtp server. Can somebody explain me how the SMTPDirect mode works? It´s only for the outgoing mail? What can be my problem?? Please give me stuff to try, I've spended more than 2 days and still nothing, even worse, no more ideas. Somebody help me please!! Ahora podés usar Yahoo! Messenger desde tu celular. Aprendé cómo hacerlo en Yahoo! Móvil: http://ar.mobile.yahoo.com/sms.html

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailto Link? 2nd time
by Detlef Neubauer 02 Oct '02

02 Oct '02

"Sparklez Grrl" <innocence_wasted(a)hotmail.com> writes: > I was wondering if there was a way for me to .. make a mailto link to > a request_to_join(a)domainname.com (for example).. that goes directly to > the mailman database and submits them as a subscriber and don't have > to go to the general list info page? Thanks.. ? You can make <a href="mailto:list-request@domain.tld?subject=subcribe;body=subscribe">foobar</a> If this not work, try , not ;. Or <a href="http://host.domain.tld/mailman/listinfo/list">foobar</a> Please send no Cc. Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://www.keyserver.net/ Oo.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] HTML welcome messages
by Detlef Neubauer 02 Oct '02

02 Oct '02

"Angel Gabriel" <badmangabriel(a)lycos.co.uk> writes: > Is it possible to have a HTML welcome message sent out to my subscribers, > instead of text based ones? I mean in get mails from Tech Republic, and they > are CRISP! It's just a thought! HTML Mail ist bad. If you want it, edit your $MAILMANHOME/templates/subscribeack.txt. Please send no Cc. Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://www.keyserver.net/ Oo.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Beta upgrade FAQ or How-To?
by G. Armour Van Horn 02 Oct '02

02 Oct '02

Larry Rosenman wrote: > On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 14:46, G. Armour Van Horn wrote: > > I've decided that it's time to make the jump to the beta, and I'm wondering if anyone is maintaining > > any guides for the process. I have a new list to setup, which will be my first with a virtual domain, > > but I also have a dozen current lists to preserve. > > > > I assume that this is touched on in the docs with the package, but would like to at least look at > > anything else out there before I actually tackle the change. > > it was a no brainer. just make sure that you have Python 2.2.1, and do > the right scripting to start it. Okay, I've spent four or five hours trying to figure out how to get Python 2.2.1 installed with no success at all. Every attempt is met with a long string of unmet dependencies. If I have to upgrade the blasted machine from RedHat 6.2, which works perfectly well in this context, in order to move forware with MailMan I'm going to have to rethink the whole idea. I did find a RedHat 6.2 RPM for Python, but reports: error: failed dependencies: libcrypto.so.2 is needed by python2-2.2.1-1 libexpat.so.0 is needed by python2-2.2.1-1 libssl.so.2 is needed by python2-2.2.1-1 Are those likely to be in one of the other Python RPMs, like python2-devel or python2-tools? Or will those just expose six hundred more dependencies? Van -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sign up now for Quotes of the Day, a handful of quotations on a theme delivered every morning. Enlightenment! Daily, for free! mailto:twisted@whidbey.com?subject=Subscribe_QOTD For web hosting and maintenance, visit Van's home page: http://www.domainvanhorn.com/van/ ----------------------------------------------------------

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