Mailman 3 November 2002 - Mailman-Users

Mailmain 2.1b5 archive link is wrong
by Listmom 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

There seems to be a problem with the link to list archives in Mailman 2.1b5 When I go to http://lists.travellercentral.com/mailman/listinfo/<listname> The lint to the archives on that page is http://lists.travellercentral.com/pipermail and not http://lists.travellercentral.com/pipermail/<listname> Any idea? I'm running 2.1b5 with the HTDIG patches. Tod -- listmom(a)travellercentral.com for list information see http://lists.travellercentral.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Permissions error
by David Gordon 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Danny Terweij danny(a)terweij.nl wrote on Wed 27 Nov 2002 at 20:31 +0100 >Try to run check_perms -f serveral times Done that >[mailman@epuk bin]$ /home/mailman/bin/check_perms -f >directory permissions must be at least 02775: /home/mailman/cgi-bin (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/admin must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/admindb must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/edithtml must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/options must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/subscribe must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/roster must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/handle_opts must be set-gid (fixing) >/home/mailman/cgi-bin/private must be set-gid (fixing) >Problems found: 10 >Re-run as mailman (or root) with -f flag to fix >You have mail in /var/spool/mail/admin >[mailman@epuk bin]$ /home/mailman/bin/check_perms -f >No problems found >[mailman@epuk bin]$ but still getting this Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 222, in ? main() File "/home/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 198, in main lock.lock(timeout=0.5) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock self.__write() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/locks/ gate_news.lock.epuk.thenexus.co.uk.6655' -- DG

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No Subject
by David Gordon 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

I've got no idea what this means... Anyone want to give me a clue? *** Traceback (innermost last): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 276, in ? lock.lock(timeout=0.5) File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock self.__write() File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w') IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/locks/ qrunner.lock.epuk.thenexus.co.uk.4399' *** I've got lots the same! Oh!, and the list I'm trying to set up doesn't work too well. I thought I was doing well setting up a test, the real thing's harder! -- DavidGordon

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Problems with the archive
by Ørjan Olsen 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Hi I have installed Mailman2.0.13 and everything seem to be working great except the archive. All mail sent to the list get sent to the members, and logged to the raw archive right away, but not the "real archive". I have been trying to run the command that is in the crontab manualy, but it dont create the archive or give any error message output or in the logs. I got a little compile error too, posted it here: http://home.no/knut3/mailman-error.txt Some system info: Linux 2.4 (Slackware) qmail with a own virtual host for the list(using contrib/qmail-to-mailman.py) mail-gid=mailman's group id prefix= /home/system/mailman compiled in /home/system/mailman/mailman-2.0.13 as user mailman with the "mailhost" and "wwwhost" options set. Any suggestion of what i can try to fix this problem? And does that compile error mean anything or is it normal?

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Cleaning out messages and archives
by Dennis Black 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

>===== Original Message From naboat_webmaster(a)naboat.org ===== >I am trying to learn how to maintain the message archives in Mailman. How can I remove a specific message, range of messages, or all messages? Is there a web interface to do this (would be very nice) or how does one maintain the amount of messages saved, etc. > >Thanks, >Capn. > "Capn," the way I clean up one year old archives at my site is with two scripts. The first warns the list owner about the deletion, the second deletes any archive over a year. Unfortunately, these scripts only look after the 'monthly-named' ones - not the yearly, quarterly, (2002q4) or daily ones. I haven't had/taken the time to put the name variations into the scripts. Watch the linewraps. Others may do it better, YMMV. #!/bin/sh # /usr/local/bin/mboxwarn # This script finds one year old archives and sends a warning message # to the list owner. Runs on the 15th of each month. Directory names # are like 2001-October. Crontab: 24 0 15 * * /usr/local/bin/mboxwarn # constants - BASEDIR=/usr/local/mail/archives/private FULLMNTH=`/usr/bin/date +"%B"` TYEAR=`/usr/bin/date +"%Y"` LYEAR=`expr $TYEAR - 1` cd /usr/local/mail/lists for LYST in `ls -1`; do if [ -d ${BASEDIR}/${LYST}/${LYEAR}-${FULLMNTH} ]; then TOBEMAILED=" The following YEAR-OLD archive will be deleted on the first of next month. Please either retrieve it and save it to a personal web space to make it available to your audience, or simply do nothing and let it expire. \n\t Mailing List:\t\t ${LYST} \n\t Archive for:\t\t ${LYEAR}-${FULLMNTH} \n " echo "${TOBEMAILED}" | /usr/bin/mailx -s "${LYST} archive" ${LYST}-owne r(a)mailman.srv.ualberta.ca fi # sleep 3 done exit ### delete script #!/bin/sh # /usr/local/bin/mboxdel # This script trims the 13th month off the *.mbox files for each list # then deletes the list archive directory, and re-creates it all with # bin/arch. Runs on the first of the month. # Directory names are /usr/local/mail/archives/private/listname.mbox. # Crontab: 24 0 1 * * /usr/local/bin/mboxdel #constants BASEDIR=/usr/local/mail/archives/private MNTH=`/usr/bin/date +"%m"` FULLMNTH=`/usr/bin/date +"%B"` DAYE=`/usr/bin/date +"%d"` TYEAR=`/usr/bin/date +"%Y"` LYEAR=`expr $TYEAR - 1` LMNTH=`expr $MNTH - 1` ##start in /usr/local/mail/archives/private cd ${BASEDIR} # list of /u/l/m/archives/private/*.mbox for DUR in `ls -d -1 *.mbox` do cd ${DUR} # cd to ./private/*.mbox/*.mbox ELES=`ls *.mbox` # should give one *.mbox file in DUR if [ -r ${ELES} ]; then echo " " > ${BASEDIR}/${DUR}/${ELES}.tmp LYST=`basename ${ELES} .mbox` /opt/freeware/bin/grepmail -h -M -d "after ${MNTH}/${DAYE}/${LYEAR}" ${E LES} >> ${BASEDIR}/${DUR}/${ELES}.tmp rm ${BASEDIR}/${DUR}/${ELES} mv ${BASEDIR}/${DUR}/${ELES}.tmp ${BASEDIR}/${DUR}/${ELES} mv ${BASEDIR}/${LYST} ${BASEDIR}/${LYST}.sav /home/mailman/bin/arch ${LYST} rm -r ${BASEDIR}/${LYST}.sav TOBEMAILED=" The following YEAR-OLD archive has been deleted. \n\t Mailing List:\t\t ${LYST} \n\t Archive for:\t\t ${LYEAR} ${LMNTH} \n " echo "${TOBEMAILED}" | /usr/bin/mailx -s "${LYST} archive" ${LYST}-owner @mailman.srv.ualberta.ca fi cd ${BASEDIR} sleep 3 done exit Dennis.Black(a)UAlberta.Ca Internet Applications, Computing and Network Services 352 General Services Building, U of A, Edmonton T6G 2H1 Ph: (780-)492-9329 Fx: (780-)492-1729 news.srv, majordomo.srv, mailman.srv

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Searching arhives
by Chris 27 Nov '02

27 Nov '02

Don't want to sound like I'm beating a dead horse, but does anyone have any idea if/when there are plans to add archive searching capabilities to a new version anytime in the near future? I am with a hosting company that implements Mailman via CPanel control panel, so I'm not sure how much "customizing" I can do (ie: adding external searching capabilities, etc). Chris

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Creating a read only list
by Chris Ricard 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

Hello, Great program, I'm looking for something to communicate with my customers like a list management program, rather than a list where everyone can post. Your list "mailman announce" is a read only, but I couldn't find the read only option in the program. Checked out the FAQ and searchable archive and nothing came up. Thanks, Chris Ricard www.theweb-factory.com Providing Functional E-Business Solutions chris(a)theweb-factory.com

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Cobalt RaQ Mailman HOWTO (for the archives)
by Chris Hedemark 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This message is for the archives, as it seems every couple of days I get someone emailing me asking for a HOWTO I supposedly wrote on the subject (thanks to my good friend John Carnes who posted that back on Apr 23, 2002) I have not written a HOWTO on how to get Mailman to work on the Cobalt RaQ. I have gotten it to work, on a consulting basis, and it worked fine (though it does not install like a normal system). I'm happy to do it again on a consulting basis, but really don't have the time to write a book on the subject. Hopefully this message will come up in searches before the other one. For those of you considering PURCHASING a Cobalt RaQ for the purpose of running Mailman, please don't. I'm not referring to any fault of Mailman, but the RaQ can be thought of like a toaster. A toaster will apply heat to toast for a certain amount of time and eject the finished toast. That's all a toaster does, but it does it really well. Toasters make lousy coffee machines. IMHO, you'll save yourself some $$$ and aggravation if you purchase kit that runs a more standardized version of Linux, *BSD, Solaris, etc. For about $1,000 you can have a really stellar 1U rackmount machine running a more standardized OS flavor and move more mail in less time than the low performance RaQ hardware. If you're going to run really mondo huge high traffic mailing lists, the RaQ isn't going to keep up with your demands anyway. So no matter how you slice it, the RaQ is not a cost effective platform for deploying Mailman. I have other beefs with the platform that I won't get into here because they aren't Mailman specific. Yes, I can get it to work. No, I wouldn't promote this as a good platform for your mailing list server. Chris Hedemark Hillsborough, NC http://yonderway.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQE94w+SYPuF4Zq9lvYRAkqDAJ0b8KUCvAdy1QYmnAH8PRB+9si26QCffMPJ k+qjlaaFyDqLaS4gb9OaHGI= =c8Mr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Privacy Option: disguise email addresses
by Jim Popovitch 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

Hi all, I recently noticed that Mailman (even the version that hosts this list) doesn't remove email address in processed emails. The description: "Show member addrs so they're not directly recognizable as email addrs?" sort of implies that email addresses embedded in replies will be masked. Is this type of functionality incorporated in future MM versions? -Jim P.

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Cleaning out messages and archives
by naboat_webmaster＠naboat.org 26 Nov '02

26 Nov '02

I am trying to learn how to maintain the message archives in Mailman. How can I remove a specific message, range of messages, or all messages? Is there a web interface to do this (would be very nice) or how does one maintain the amount of messages saved, etc. Thanks, Capn.

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Mailman-Users November 2002