Mailman 3 December 2002 - Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] read-only mailing list?
by Lukas Ruf Dec. 31, 2002

Dec. 31, 2002

> Brian Read <brianr(a)bjsystems.co.uk> [2002-12-31 13:39]: > > Try here: > > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.011.htp thanks for the hint! wbr, Lukas -- Lukas Ruf http://www.lpr.ch Wanna know anything about raw ip? Join rawip(a)rawip.org on http://www.rawip.org

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read-only mailing list?
by Lukas Ruf Dec. 31, 2002

Dec. 31, 2002

Dear all, I do not understand how to configure a read only mailing list with 2.1rc1. Thanks for any hint! Lukas -- Lukas Ruf http://www.lpr.ch Wanna know anything about raw ip? Join rawip(a)rawip.org on http://www.rawip.org

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Re[2]: [Mailman-Users] Re: autorespond_requests in 2.1x
by Mark Geisinger Dec. 31, 2002

Dec. 31, 2002

On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 12:30:45 AM, you wrote: > And we've had in 2.0.x subscribers fail to confirm because (as of 2.0.6, > anyhow), the request could easily be misread as an acknowledgement. We hacked > the message a little to make it more obvious. (Old news now.) Darn pesky users. ;} I've taken some similar steps here. Even went to some lengths on the Web site to try to make it as obvious as possible without actually SHOUTING at them. I suppose the real problem is that some folks just don't read the stuff. Well, I'm guilty of that on occasion, too. In this case, I think that Mailman's autoresponses to the sub/remove msgs. is compounding the problem. -- Best regards, Mark list-mailman(a)lanbytes.com

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cAse SeNsiTiVe
by JMD Dec. 30, 2002

Dec. 30, 2002

Hello, I am attempting to set up a list on my website but it will not allow me to make the name lower case. I have seen some lists that do allow this and am wonding if I am missing something here? I even tried to change the case (first letter) afterwards but it will not allow that either. Any help is appreciated!

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2.1rc1 -- howto for virtual hosts
by Lukas Ruf Dec. 30, 2002

Dec. 30, 2002

Dear all, is there anywhere a how to that exlains in a step-by-step manner how to setup mailing lists for virtual hosts? I assume that the add_virtualhost('host') is sufficient to cope with the different virtual hosts. But how can I do the following: My scenario: - I have a few domains - Every domain runs some mailing lists - For every mailing list I have a different administrator ? How can I set the web-interface per mailing list? ? How can I set the administrator password per administrator? If it is simply a lack of knowledge, I appreciate any pointer! Thanks! Lukas -- Lukas Ruf http://www.lpr.ch Wanna know anything about raw ip? Join rawip(a)rawip.org on http://www.rawip.org

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MM 2.1rc1 Virtual hosting
by David Gibbs Dec. 30, 2002

Dec. 30, 2002

I'm trying to setup virtual hosting on a test install of MM 2.1 rc1 ... my default list host is "midrange.com", and the virtual is "lists.fallingrock.net". I've setup a virtual hosted list with the 'lists.fallingrock.net' domain, but when I send a message to the list I get odd results. Some of the headers show the 'lists.fallingrock.net' comain, but some show 'midrange.com' ... here's a partially edited sample... > X-BeenThere: beta-testers(a)lists.fallingrock.net > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1rc1 > Precedence: list > Reply-To: beta-testers(a)midrange.com > List-Id: New Feature Beta Testers <beta-testers.lists.fallingrock.net> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.fallingrock.net/xxxxxxx/listinfo/beta-testers>, > <mailto:beta-testers-request@lists.fallingrock.net?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://lists.fallingrock.net/xxxxxxx/private/beta-testers> > List-Post: <mailto:beta-testers@lists.fallingrock.net> > List-Help: <mailto:beta-testers-request@lists.fallingrock.net?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://lists.fallingrock.net/xxxxxxx/listinfo/beta-testers>, > <mailto:beta-testers-request@lists.fallingrock.net?subject=subscribe> > Sender: beta-testers-bounces(a)midrange.com > Errors-To: beta-testers-bounces(a)midrange.com Here's a fragment of my mm_cfg.py file ... DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'midrange.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.midrange.com' DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'http://%s/mailman2/' DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST DEFAULT_URL = DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN % DEFAULT_URL_HOST VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW = 1 add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('lists.fallingrock.net') The list configuration has the host_name value set to 'lists.fallingrock.net'. Any ideas why the reply-to, send, errors-to, etc, all have 'midrange.com' instead of 'lists.fallingrock.net'? Thanks! david

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MM 2.0.13 > Footer variables.
by Marco Trevisan | Bazzmann.Com Dec. 30, 2002

Dec. 30, 2002

Hi all! This is my first message in the list, I wish to thanks the whole crew of Mailman for the great work they done, do and will do. :) I'm not a deep developer, so I need help from you. I wish to apply a footer like this one used on this list, with e-mail user and personal link to user preferences. This is the part of footer I like to apply: "This message was sent to: info(a)bazzmann.com Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/info%40bazzmann.com" There are some variable I lost or still I don't know, or it's a feature that is not available on 2.0.13 version? Thanks in advance, Marco -- Bazzmann Labs(c) - Accessibilita', usabilita', webdesign e standard W3C ::--------------------------------::---------------------------------:: http://www.bazzmann.it | Il sito ufficiale di Bazzmann Labs. http://www.bazzmann.com | La risorsa per informare e aggiornare. http://www.dev2dev.it | Elemento D2D002

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RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue
by Keith Steward Dec. 30, 2002

Dec. 30, 2002

Larry, BINGO! You hit the nail on the head !!! Problem solved! Your comment prompted me to review the smrsh.c code within the sendmail distribution. When CMDDIR is not defined by the OS (I couldn't find in in any system *.h files), then in smrsh.c it defaults to /usr/adm/sm.bin/ . Even though RedHat7.2 already has an /etc/smrsh/ directory (including a link entry there for slocal), the Sendmail (at least the 8.11.6 version I downloaded and installed) was not using that directory. Instead, it was looking for the default /usr/adm/sm.bin/. The /etc/smrsh/ directory was a red herring! Once I created the /usr/adm/sm.bin, and chmod 755 (recommended by the smrsch/README within Sendmail), and then set up the symbolic link in there: mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman the problem disappeared. Thanks!!! -keith -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:26 PM To: keith(a)bioinformaticstech.com Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs" issue --On Sunday, December 29, 2002 17:20:22 -0800 Keith Steward <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> wrote: > Larry, > > Yes, the /etc/smrsh/ directory contains a symbolic link to the mailman > wrapper: ie. > /etc/smrsh/mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman are you SURE that your SMRSH is set to use /etc/smrsh as it's CMDDIR? Also, did you try it with the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman aliases as someone else pointed out? LER > > Thanks. > > > Keith > > -- > Keith L. Steward, Ph.D. work: 408-957-7777 x300 cell: 408-250-5213 > Email: keith(a)BioinformaticsTech.com > Web: http://www.BioinformaticsTech.com > Pager: http://www.skytel.com/Paging/pageme.cgi?pin=8499479,1 > or call 1-888-849-9479 > FAX: 408-226-3215 408-40 (call ahead for setup) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:08 PM > To: Keith Steward; mailman-users(a)python.org; > mailman-developers(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not > available for sendmail programs" issue > > > Did you put links to the $MAILMANHOME/mail/mailman program in the > CMDDIR directory for your copy of SMRSH? > > LER > > > --On Sunday, December 29, 2002 13:31:35 -0800 Keith Steward > <ksteward(a)keithsteward.com> wrote: > >> >> Arghhhh!!! >> >> After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 >> final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman >> not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous >> things), i'm just about ready to give up. I've been able to get >> Mailman to send email to a new subscriber asking for confirmation, >> and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the subscriber's >> confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh >> problem: -------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------ >> sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, >> size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, >> msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJ >> g >> jI3 >> Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, >> relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186] smrsh: uid 8: attempt to >> use mailman request test1 >> sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request >> test1", ctladdr=<test1-request(a)justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), >> delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, >> stat=Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: >> gBTEUjD30786: > >> DSN: Service unavailable sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: >> to=<ksteward(a)keithsteward.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, >> mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], >> dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery) >> ----------- end segment --------------- >> >> System information: >> RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2 >> The /etc/aliases includes: >> ## test1 mailing list >> test1: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1" >> test1-admin: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1" >> test1-bounces: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1" >> test1-confirm: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1" >> test1-join: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1" >> test1-leave: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1" >> test1-owner: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1" >> test1-request: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1" >> test1-subscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1" >> test1-unsubscribe: "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" >> Sendmail > >> can send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) >> account > >> on the machine running Mailman. newaliases was run after the above >> aliases were added. /etc/smrsh contains: >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman -> >> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman The permissions on the >> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are: -rwxr-sr-x 1 mailman >> mailman 39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman >> >> Things i've tried: >> >> * ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail >> * path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either >> '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman' >> * ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman >> * copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman) > into >> /etc/smrsh * changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail >> * by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" | >> /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining > about >> the gid * by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" | >> /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid >> complaint. >> * restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after config > >> changes. By the way, i've done extensive reading of: >> >> * Mailman INSTALL >> * Mailman README.SENDMAIL >> * Mailman README.LINUX >> * Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc >> * the mailman-developers list archives >> At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon > Mailman >> and switch to something like Majordomo, etc. And frankly i think > i've >> run out of time. I've spent several evenings on this already. >> Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more important >> than > >> the bells and whistles that Mailman offers. thanks. >> >> -keith s. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Passwords of members UPDATE
by Steve Rifkin Dec. 30, 2002

Dec. 30, 2002

Going an extra step, I compiled python 2.2.2 and put it in place. I then rebuilt mailman (based on the new python). Again, mailman works EXCEPT FOR list admin passwords. I'm running out of options. I'm now at python 2.2.2 and mailman 2.0.13, and my list admins cannot log in, but the site admin and users can. When the site admin changes the list admin password for a list, should there be a confirmation of the change AFTER submit is clicked? WHOA! Here is something weird... all my mailman files are owned by user mailman and group mailman. At the list level, for a test list (mmtest), the dir looks like: -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:48 config.db -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:47 config.db.last -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 869 Dec 26 16:57 request.db -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 189 Jan 30 2002 handle_opts.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1026 Jan 30 2002 headfoot.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 3136 Jan 30 2002 listinfo.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 4106 Jan 30 2002 options.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1169 Jan 30 2002 roster.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 198 Jan 30 2002 subscribe.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1706 Jan 30 2002 admindbpreamble.html That's ok. HOWEVER, whenever I log into a list or try to make changes to a list as the site admin, the ownership changes for config.db: -rw-rw---- 1 nobody mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:50 config.db -rw-rw---- 1 mailman mailman 3082 Dec 27 11:48 config.db.last -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 869 Dec 26 16:57 request.db -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 189 Jan 30 2002 handle_opts.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1026 Jan 30 2002 headfoot.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 3136 Jan 30 2002 listinfo.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 4106 Jan 30 2002 options.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1169 Jan 30 2002 roster.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 198 Jan 30 2002 subscribe.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 1706 Jan 30 2002 admindbpreamble.html And the filesize for config.db does not change. I suspect that the config.db file is not changing at all when I attempt changes logged in as the site admin. The only change to the file is config.db's ownership keeps changing to nobody! Why? Maybe the above is a clue to the problem! Any thoughts? Steve steve410(a)cs.jhu.edu

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Mailman rejects one list name
by Grant Dec. 30, 2002

Dec. 30, 2002

Greetings. I have a rather perplexing problem... I've read the documentation... and I've spoken with someone I consider to be an experienced Mailman admin with no luck. I have a RH 8.0 server. It is running Apache w/ a virtual domain, Postfix with a canonical and virtual domain, and Mailman. The normal domain, for this e-mail, will be "abc.org" while the virtual domain is "123.org". I can create and use a mailman list using any name other than "123" (the name of the virtual domain). The list 123 creates without problem, however, when I try to log in via /mailman/admin/123/ I get the request for password, but it refuses to log me in. Checking the error_log for apache gives me this: [error] [client w.x.y.z] Premature end of script headers: admin, referer: http://abc.org/mailman/admin/123/ [info] (104)Connection reset by peer: core_output_filter: writing data to the network The reason I'm writing to this list instead of apache... is that any other mailing list works perfectly. Help? Anyone? Grant

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