Mailman 3 March 2002 - Mailman-Users

Question about your program
by theparsons 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I'm brand new at having my own website, in fact, it's not even done and published yet.....but one thing I want to have is a mailing list, I'm tired of yahoogroups and their failings. But...I can't figure out whether your program allows attachments to emails, whether it archives those attachments and if yes to both those, what are the size limits of attachments to individual emails, and the limit to the total amount of archives available. Thanks. Jan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Assistance with Mm install
by gs-list 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I'm having some difficulty with my recent mailman installation. Whenever the mailman program sends out messages, it says: From: list-owner(a)domain.tld What I'd like it to say is: From: list-owner(a)mailman.domain.tld How do I change this? Thanks in advance, Gregg Sperling gs-list(a)glsrms.com

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: how to remove List-* headers
by J C Lawrence 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:36:45 -0500 Tom Neff <tneff(a)bigfoot.com> wrote: > Quite the contrary, RFC2369 says > Implementing these fields will be optional. > Therefore, by adding a manager's option for those headers instead of > trying to force them on everyone, Mailman 2.1 has finally been brought > into RFC2369 compliance. Nope. The RFC states that conformant systems may or may not implement the various headers (ie optional), it does not state that any given system that supports those headers must also allow them to be disabled. Mailman was conformant previously and now with the config option (which I greatly regret) is still conformant. There has been no change in that regard. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] re Mailman
by J C Lawrence 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:53:19 -0600 chasm <schuetzen> wrote: > attachment stripping http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py, partial feature in 2.1, external tools remain probably best choice. > html stripping http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > firewall, etc protection Unnecessary and totally unrelated to a list server. > a good program like Norton Internet Security to protect the list Unnecessary and totally unrelated to a list server. > notice to moderators of new members, new messages of moderated members Already present. > member moderation Present in 2.0, Improved in 2.1. > member banning > list of banned members stored with a reason given for each > list of bounced and the bounces Mailman does not track this data, but can/does email the data to you as each bouncer is processed. You can fairly trivially build any system you want from there, or submit a patch to track it in-server. > ability to toll the bounced to see if the address is live or not Nope. -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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Mailman and Courier MTA
by Cary Collett 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

Hello all, I've used Mailman with sendmail and qmail, but Courier has me stumped. (This is my first time using it.) I asked about this on the courier-users list and got no response. :( So, I'm asking here now. Anyhow... Mailman installed just fine. I can use the web interface to request to join a list. However, when I reply to confirm it fails. I get messages like this in my maillog: Mar 28 16:15:25 denna courierd:+started,id=0005980A.3CA37D61.00007999,from=<cary(a)ratatosk.org>,module=local,hos+t=alias!.xalias/foobar+2drequest@ratatosk+2eorg!520!520!/usr/local/courier/etc/+aliasdir!!,addr=<alias> Mar 28 16:15:25 denna courierd: Waiting. shutdown time=none, wakeup time=Thu+Mar 28 16:16:19 2002, queuedelivering=9, inprogress=1 Mar 28 16:15:25 denna Mailman mail-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid+12, GOT gid 520. (Reconfigure to take 520?) Mar 28 16:15:25 denna courierlocal: +id=0005980A.3CA37D61.00007999,from=<cary(a)ratatosk.org>,addr=<".xalias/foobar+2d+request@ratatosk+2eorg"@ratatosk.org>: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12,+GOT gid 520. (Reconfigure to take 520?) My aliases, in courier/etc/system are: foobar: | /home/mailman/mailman/mail/wrapper post foobar foobar-request: | /home/mailman/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd foobar foobar-admin: | /home/mailman/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner foobar foobar-owner: foobar-admin How do I tell courier that UID 520 (which the mailman user) is okay to run a script as? Or is something else wrong/misconfigured? Cary

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configuring for Postfix
by Gary Wang 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

I'm trying to get v2.1b1 to work.. I actually had it working, but for some reason (I don't remember why) I decided to re-install. Now I can't even get one message to go through to the mailman wrappers. I'm trying to configure for Postfix and Mailman to work together. Like I mentioned, this setup was working earlier. Here is what I'm doing. Lines with ";;" are comments, so as not to confuse with "#"=root prompt. $ su root # mkdir /home/mailman # chown mailman.mailman /home/mailman # chmod 02775 /home/mailman # su mailman % cd /usr/local/src/mailman2.1b1 % ./configure --prefix=/home/mailman --with-mail-gid=mailman --with-cgi-gid=nobody % make install % cd ~ % bin/check_perms -f % vi Mailman/mm_cfg.py ;; add this to file MTA = 'Postfix' % less Mailman/Defaults.py ;; check path for POSTFIX_ALIAS_CMD and POSTFIX_MAP_CMD % bin/genaliases % chown mailman.mailman data/aliases* ;;(not really necessary.. but what the heck) % exit # vi /etc/postfix/main.cf ;; edit so that: alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/home/mailman/data/aliases # newaliases # postfix reload # su mailman % cd ~ % bin/newlist testlist ;; set password, etc ;; "press enter to notify owner".. % exit # newaliases # postfix reload ;; just in case Go to web interface, add user ("successfully added xxx(a)xxx.com") send e-mail to testlist(a)mydomain.net Nothing happens. What's missing here ...? gary

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman problem - gid not find
by Carfield Yim 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, RUSSELL P JONES wrote: > from the directory with the install files for mailman... > > %make clean > %./configure --with-mail-gid=65534 > %make install > > see if that helps. this is a really common problem (getting the wrong > group-id) and is addressed in the mailman faq > > Thx for reply, and I have reat the FAQ first. However, the situation is quit difference than the FAQ mention. The gid of mail is not 65535, but the request one. Besides, I don't encounter the error before I upgrade msec to latest version.

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re Mailman
by schuetzen - RKBA! 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

in re your url at http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/MM21/features.html I have about a dozen elists on Yahoogroups and would love to get them off there and onto a webhost (which I am also looking for) but I really and truly like ALL the features of YHG's email software. I would like to see - in Mailman attachment stripping html stripping firewall, etc protection. a good program like Norton Internet Security to protect the list notice to moderators of new members, new messages of moderated members member moderation member banning list of banned members stored with a reason given for each list of bounced and the bounces ability to toll the bounced to see if the address is live or not etc.... is any of this in the future?? or is there another unix based s/w that is closer to what I want? thanks chas -- New email address chasm(a)texas.net change @insync.net to @texas.net visit www.schuetzen.net

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Another mailman bug
by Russell King 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

Hi, I've just been through my mailman lists handling the held postings, and I notice that mailman is playing silly buggers with the web interface. Please see: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/images/mailmangroupings.jpg I'm rapidly loosing confidence in Mailman as a decent piece of secure software, especially as my attempts to report previous bugs/add them to the sourceforge bug manager go totally unacknowledged for MONTHS. In fact, I've NEVER had any acknowledgement from the mailman developers for ANYTHING. I'm expecting this one to be handled the same way, so I don't suppose it matters whatever I put in this email. Since I can't wait around for months while no one even responds to something like this, I've handled those pending messages the best I can, so consider any data mailman had lost. Thanks. -- Russell King (rmk(a)arm.linux.org.uk) The developer of ARM Linux http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/personal/aboutme.html

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Re: how to remove List-* headers
by Tom Neff 30 Mar '02

30 Mar '02

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:53:00 +1100 Darryl Harvey <darryl(a)harvey.net.au> wrote: > I was wondering if there was an option to turn on or off the email > headers that mailman adds. This is one of their ideological hot buttons - you're not supposed to WANT to turn them off. :) Back in the real world - go to $base/Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py - down in the last few lines - and look for a line saying msg[h] = v Comment that out with a # at the beginning of the line, and the headers are toast. I never bothered to code a fancier patch to let you control it list by list in the web interface, but that's a doable project.

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