Mailman 3 June 2002 - Mailman-Users

Flaw or feature? moderated lists & non-member posts
by Jeff Garvas June 6, 2002

June 6, 2002

I've been testing some sample mailing lists and trying to "break the rules" for my environment. For example, I created a list and configured it to be moderated. Then, I posted a message to the list from a non-member account. One would expect (or atleast I would) that the administration interface would say something along the lines of "Post from non-member", but the fact is that doesn't occur. Instead, the fact that the list is moderated takes precedent and you get a message along these lines: "Post to moderated list" While this is technically correct, a moderated list may wish to bounce non-member submissions. Otherwise, an unsuspecting individual may simply approve a post because it appears to be "on topic", and not have a clue that the individual is not a member of the list. If this a flaw? A bug? Obviously there has to be a way to make the list say "Post from non-member" even if the list is in moderated mode. The question is, if you approve a non-member post at that point, does it get re-injected and come up as a post submitted to a moderated list, or does it just go through? (I prefer the latter) Am I barking up the wrong tree? Is this not an order of precedence issue? I'm sort of stumped on it. I have a specific list I'd like to run that is strictly limited to members only. Due to the volume of subscribers, it is clearly possible that someone wouldn't realize a post came from a non-subscriber in this scenario. -Jeff

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Reply-To option, Author Name and Archives
by Topaz11green＠aol.com June 6, 2002

June 6, 2002

Hello, I've searched the archives, the FAQ and google and couldn't find the answer to this question. So, any help is appreciated. I'm moving our lists from Majordomo to Mailman and have set up a test list where I've sent some test messages from several different e-mail accounts. I have the following configuration options set: General: Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. This list Privacy: Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) No When I look at the archives on the web, if the "From:" field in the test.mbox file is in the format of "Poster Name" <somebody(a)example.com> or else Poster Name <somebody(a)example.com>then Poster Name is displayed as the Author. If the "From:" field is in the format of someone(a)example.com (this is how I've seen the headers from my AOL account) then the Author is the list e-mail address. When I look at the archived message in either case, the e-mail address of the author is the list e-mail address. If I change the "Reply-To:" option from "This List" to "Poster" then the author in the archives html file is the actual author, not the list, and the author's e-mail address is given. Since this is a discussion list, it's useful to have the "Reply-To:" option set up as "This List." The archive of this list is private and subscription needs to be authorized. It would be useful for our users to see who actually wrote something, rather than the listname in the author field. E-mail works fine, it's just the archives, which my users really want, that are confusing me. Thanks for your help. -Susan

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Problem using windows XP
by allan＠abrahamse.org June 6, 2002

June 6, 2002

Ever since I upgraded to windows XP, I have been unable to make any administrative changes to the Mailman mailing lists I manage. I can reach any administrative page OK, but when I try to implement a change, I return to the password page. This happens even when I set my browser to "accept all cookies," and even if I clear all the cookies and start over. If I log onto the administrative page from a non-XP computer, things work fine. Has anyone else had this problem?

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Bounce Messages..
by Adam Giddens June 6, 2002

June 6, 2002

Hi, Is it possible to set mailman to remove bouncing addresses automatically? I have set mailman to send replies to the list and have set the options in the bounce menu to '0' but it doesn't seem to be working.. Have I done something wrong? Can anyone help? Ad. Adam Giddens UKCLUBBING.COM LTD The UK Dance Music Magazine p: 01442 824990 f: 01442 218323 m: 07980 223075 e: adam(a)ukclubbing.com w: 5, Parsonage Place, Tring, Herts, HP23 5AT <http://www.ukclubbing.com/> http://www.ukclubbing.com

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RE: digest sent to list posting address, why?
by hostmaster＠rattletrap.shults.org June 6, 2002

June 6, 2002

hmm, well, if no ideas, can anyone confirm whether or not this is expected or unexpected behavior? would a list of related settings from the admin webgui be useful? tia, ~steven > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven [mailto:steven@shults.org] > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 7:28 PM > To: 'mailman-users(a)python.org' > Subject: digest sent to entire list, why? > > > Hi, > > I'm running 2.0.11 > > One of my new lists sent the first digest to the list posting > address today > from listname-admin(a)hostname.tld 'on behalf of' > listname-request(a)hostname.tld > to listname(a)hostname.tld > > Coincidentally(?) the time stamp matched that of a post I had > approved and which was sent at the same time as the digest. > It was a simple plain text post I'd approved (mime is > disabled for the list in question.) > > My impression had been, from the digest settings I'd chosen > in the admin webgui, that the digest would only be sent to > list members who had opted to receive the digest instead of > separate posts. I'm baffled by the digest having been mailed > to the list posting address and therefore all members of the > list. (and a thought which just came to mind, will the > digest be included in the next digest since it went to the > list address? ug.) > > I've searched the admin webgui settings and found nothing, > I've read the readmes and found nothing, I searched > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py with all the strings > and search types I could think of and came up with nothing. > I browsed through the TOC there and found nothing. > > What am I overlooking? How do I prevent the digest from > being sent to the entire list via the list's posting address? > I had 7 unsubs within 10 minutes of that going out, so I'd > like to prevent a repeat. > > tia, > ~steven >

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Re: [Mailman-Users] recover a passwd!
by Dan Mick June 5, 2002

June 5, 2002

> Hi there! > > How can i recover a password from a list??? > > Thanks a lot!!! > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > La emoción e intensidad del deporte en Yahoo! Deportes. http://deportes.yahoo.com.mx > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >>>>>>>>>>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py

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recover a passwd!
by David Sammons June 5, 2002

June 5, 2002

Hi there! How can i recover a password from a list??? Thanks a lot!!! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? La emoción e intensidad del deporte en Yahoo! Deportes. http://deportes.yahoo.com.mx

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bizarre archiving problem
by Joel Uckelman June 5, 2002

June 5, 2002

I've been having a problem with archiving that has me puzzled: One of my list's archives displays in each message's From header the user's address followed by his name in parentheses. Another of my list's archives displays the list address in the From field in place of the user's address, again followed by his name in parentheses. What's driving me crazy is that a dumpdb on each list's config.db shows that the lists have the *same* settings for any attributes that seem relevant! Both have anonymous_list = 0, which is what I thought controlled address replacement, and no address replacement shows up in the raw mboxes. You can take a look at the text archives here: http://lists.ellipsis.cx/pipermail/testlist/2002-June.txt http://lists.ellipsis.cx/pipermail/eia/2002-June.txt Where in the archiver code do such replacements take place? I found process() function in Cleanse.py where a block that does such substitutions is executed if anonymous_list is true, but I don't see any place in the archiver code that calls process(). If anyone can tell me what's going on here, please do. I'm stumped. -- J.

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welcome message option
by chetana reddy June 5, 2002

June 5, 2002

Hi, In the membership management how do I Change the send welcome message option default to "NO". Thank You Chetana __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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store more data than email
by Angelo Marcos Rigo June 5, 2002

June 5, 2002

Hi list, I actually need to store more data from the user than his email, in a way to make marketing considerations, in a sql database; can it be done at the subscription moment ? and make any relationship that can remove the data if the user unsubscribe? or at least, fill an column saying the user has unsubscribed? Ângelo Marcos Rigo Webmaster Colégio Anchieta http://www.colegioanchieta.g12.br

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