Mailman 3 July 2002 - Mailman-Users

Understanding "nomail"
by Christian Tismer 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hi Barry, I have a short question concerning Mailman and "nomail". 12 out of 145 members of my Stackless list have the "nomail" flag set. I see this flag can be set from the config UI, but I also think to remember that mailman sets this flag after being unable to deliver emails for a while? Now I would like to reach these members and to figure out if they are still interested or just don't think of the list since they never get any messages. Is it correct to switch nomail off for them and send some test message? Is it common that people use this flag (so I should respect it) or is it more common that Mailman sets it? And do these people also get no mailman remainder messages? Then it might be likely that they are just nominal members. Too much questions to be called "short", but finally it is short: How should list admins deal with "nomail"? thanks - chris -- Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:tismer@tismer.com> Mission Impossible 5oftware : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's Johannes-Niemeyer-Weg 9a : *Starship* http://starship.python.net/ 14109 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ work +49 30 89 09 53 34 home +49 30 802 86 56 pager +49 173 24 18 776 PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/

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Machine name problems
by Jessica Perry Hekman 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

I recently installed mailman on a Debian 3.0 machine (to which I do have sudo root access, but only because the admins are nice to me, and I am not really allowed to change much). I set up a test list: test: "|/etc/mail/smrsh/mailman_wrapper post test" test-admin: "|/etc/mail/smrsh/mailman_wrapper mailowner test" test-request: "|/etc/mail/smrsh/mailman_wrapper mailcmd test" test-owner: test-admin When I send mail to test, something unfortunate happens: Jul 29 09:35:14 suberic sm-mta[29557]: g6TDZEnw029557: from=<jphekman(a)arborius.net>, size=461, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<Pine.LNX.4.44.0207290934580.2095-100000(a)pendaran.arborius.net>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=dsl092-069-177.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.69.177] Jul 29 09:35:15 suberic sm-mta[29560]: g6TDZEnw029557: to="|/etc/mail/smrsh/mailman_wrapper post test", ctladdr=<test(a)suberic.net> (8/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=30689, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Jul 29 09:36:02 suberic sm-mta[29575]: g6TDa2nw029575: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=<test-admin@net>, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1], reject=553 5.1.8 <test-admin@net>... Domain of sender address test-admin@net does not exist Jul 29 09:36:02 suberic sm-mta[29575]: g6TDa2nw029575: from=<test-admin@net>, size=1282, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] The machine's name is suberic.net, but somehow mailman is contructing a domain of just "net", so we get addresses like "test-admin@net", which clearly don't work. So mail to the list is accepted, but does not get propogated out to the list recipients. Python version on this machine is Python 2.1.3 (#1, Apr 20 2002, 10:14:34) [GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)] on linux2 I have not had much luck getting the admins to upgrade to Python 2.2 (things depend on the other version). I am not sure that this is the problem, anyways. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Jessica --- "Users complain that they receive too much spam, while spammers protest messages are legal." -InfoWorld "You do not have to do everything disagreeable that you have a right to do." -Judith Martin (Miss Manners)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] command line script for list creation
by Detlef Neubauer 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Larry Guest <larry(a)guestfamily.com> writes: > What I need is a script that not only makes the list for you (like > "newlist") but will then ask you about the different option you can set for > the list. Things like, list name, list prefix, list footers, Kb messages > size, members, etc. I think i wouldt only go with the webinterface. Or you define it for all new lists in mm-cfg.py. > Also it would be great if it could show you what it > will add to the /etc/alias file (sendmail) and then add it and run > newaliases. Take this an change it for your wishes. It's in german language i think you understand it. ,---- | #!/bin/sh | | LISTENNAME=$1 | LISTENADMIN=$2 | PASSWORT=$3 | | if test "$#" -ne 3; then | | echo "Wie soll die neue Liste heissen?" | read LISTENNAME | if test -z "$LISTENNAME"; then | echo "Bitte einen Listennamen angeben!" | exit 1 | else | echo "Wie lautet die Mailadresse des Listenadmin?" | read LISTENADMIN | if test -z "$LISTENADMIN"; then | echo "Bitte die Mailadresse des Listenadmins angeben!" | exit 1 | else | echo "Bitte geben Sie ein Passwort ein!" | read PASSWORT | if test -z "$PASSWORT"; then | echo "Bitte ein Passwort eingeben!" | exit 1 | else | newlist -o /etc/aliases.mailman "$LISTENNAME" "$LISTENADMIN" "$P | sudo /usr/bin/newaliases | fi | fi | fi | | else | newlist -o /etc/aliases.mailman "$LISTENNAME" "$LISTENADMIN" "$PASSWORT" | sudo /usr/bin/newaliases | fi `---- My MTA is Postfix and i use an extra aliases file for mailman lists. ,---- | mailman:~ # postconf -n | alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/etc/aliases.mailman | alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/etc/aliases.mailman `---- ,---- | mailman:~ # ls -l /etc/aliases.mailman | -rw-rw-r-- 1 root mailman 14415 Jul 18 11:22 /etc/aliases.mailman `---- ,----[ /etc/sudoers ] | mailman mailman=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/newaliases `---- Please send no Cc. I answer only via the list. Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://www.keyserver.net/ Oo.

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numbers of Mail Subscribers...
by Aris Santillan 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

hello where can i locate the copy of the email subscribers? i need the flat files where the list of email subscribers per list Aris Santillan

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HTdig intergration pb
by Odhiambo Washington 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Maybe someone who has successfully intergrated HTDig and Mailman can help me. I've been trying to get this to work but problems keep creeping in. I've followed the INSTALL.htdig-mm (almost to the letter) but I do feel I am not quite correct in the setting that I have and so I get errors like this: htdig: Unable to find configuration file '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/elections-2002/htdig/elections-2002.conf' htmerge: Unable to find configuration file '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/elections-2002/htdig/elections-2002.conf' Mailman is installed in /usr/local/mailman HTDig config file is in /usr/local/etc/htdig/htdig.conf From what I read in the the file elections-2002.conf should be created automatically, yes? Is someone able to spot a problem with the values below (from mm_cfg.py) with reference to the values I've given above? # HTDIG ARCHIVE_INDEXING_ENABLE = '' ARCHIVE_INDEXING_DISABLE = '' USE_HTDIG = 1 # These below are the defaults, anyway HTDIG_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/htdig' HTDIG_SEARCH_URL = '/cgi-bin/htsearch' HTDIG_FILES_URL = '/htdig/' HTDIG_CONF_LINK_DIR = os.path.join(VAR_PREFIX, 'archives', 'htdig') HTDIG_RUNDIG_PATH = '/usr/local/bin/rundig' HTDIG_MAILMAN_LINK = 'htdig-mailman' REMOTE_HTDIG = 0 cheers - wash ----------------------------------+----------------------------------------- Odhiambo Washington, wash(a)wananchi.com . WANANCHI ONLINE LTD (Nairobi, KE) http://ns2.wananchi.com/~wash/ . 1ere Etage, Loita Hse, Loita St., GSM: (254) 722 743 223 . # 10286, 00100 NAIROBI ----------------------------------+----------------------------------------- "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post ++ ``That Ariel Sharon. Boy, he sure is controversial. Most Western countries would have to have a military coup before they enjoyed a leader of that caliber.'' (Sydney Webb)

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Mailman + HTDig cron issue
by Odhiambo Washington 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Since I am not a python coder, I thought I may ask the list about this: ----- Forwarded message from Cron Daemon ----- Subject: Cron <mailman@ns2> /usr/local/bin/python2.2 -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_htdig", line 52, in ? from Mailman.Archiver import HyperArch File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 855 "htdig_extras" = mm_cfg.HTDIG_EXTRAS, ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax ----- End forwarded message ----- -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington <wash(a)wananchi.com> "The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) HOW YOU CAN TELL THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A ROTTEN DAY: #1040 Your income tax refund cheque bounces.

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Mailman and News server
by vinod bartakke 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hi All, I am new to Mailman (and this list too). I have a Red Hat 7.2 box running Mailman 2.0.6-1 and news server(INN 2.3.2-5). I want to integrate Mailman with this news server so that users can access/post/modify NEWS from the web interface of the Mailman. Is it possible? if yes, how to configure it? or where can I get the relevent information (URLs) ? Thanks a lot in advance, Regards, Vin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Mailman & Exim 4.05
by Mike Gifford 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

Hello, I'm trying to set up mailman-2.0.12 on a RH 7.2 system using exim 4.05. The main problem that I am having is that I believe your instructions for setting up mailman & exim are 3.x specific. If this isn't the case, please let me know, but I could not find a Directors config file section in 4.05, but could find one prominently in 3.33. I have tried to just 'stuff' the config info that didn't fit neatly into the file into the exim config file, but that definitely didn't work. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Mike -- Mike Gifford, OpenConcept Consulting, http://www.openconcept.ca Open Source Web Applications for Social Change. Featured Client - NDP Leadership Candidate - http://www.billblaikie.org "An unjust law is no law at all." - Saint Augustine

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Mailman/exim lockfile and uid problems
by Eric D Nielsen 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

I appear to be having common problems judging from the search results on this lists archives, but most of the posts received no replies. I've installed Mailman and exim on a Debian (woody) box using apt-get. I've read through README.Debian and README.Exim and made the required changes to my exim.conf and httpd.conf file. The mailing list administration pages are all functioning. I've created a list using newlist and added the entries it listed to /etc/aliases. The email to list administrator arrived properly on remote account. Mail sent to the list (or -request) is getting lost in exim. The first time I tried to send a message exim's mainlog showed: 2002-07-28 18:34:50 17Ywck-0000Ub-00 <= nielsene(a)MIT.EDU H=pacific-carrier-annex .mit.edu [18.7.21.83] P=esmtp S=1201 id=200207282236.SAA24007(a)magic-pi-ball.mit. edu 2002-07-28 18:34:50 17Ywck-0000Ub-00 Neither the system_aliases director nor the address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of |/var/lib/mailman/mail/w rapper mailcmd test with no entries in rejectlog or paniclog Later mailings to the list generate: 2002-07-28 19:08:01 Start queue run: pid=2084 2002-07-28 19:08:01 17Ywck-0000Ub-00 Neither the system_aliases director nor the address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of |/var/lib/mailman/mail/w rapper mailcmd test 2002-07-28 19:08:01 End queue run: pid=2084 2002-07-28 19:08:01 17Yx8r-0000Xf-00 <= mail(a)ballroom.mit.edu U=mail P=local S=7 07 2002-07-28 19:08:02 17Yx8r-0000Xf-00 failed to open database lock file /var/spoo l/exim/db/wait-remote_smtp.lockfile: Permission denied (euid=8 egid=8) 2002-07-28 19:08:02 17Yx8r-0000Xf-00 => nielsene(a)mit.edu <mail(a)ballroom.mit.edu> R=lookuphost T=remote_smtp H=PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.mit.edu [18.7.21.83] 2002-07-28 19:08:02 17Yx8r-0000Xf-00 Completed With the following in paniclog: 2002-07-28 19:08:01 17Ywck-0000Ub-00 Neither the system_aliases director nor the address_pipe transport set a uid for local delivery of |/var/lib/mailman/mail/w rapper mailcmd test ls -l of /var/spool/exim/db total 8 -rw-r----- 1 mail mail 4096 Jul 27 00:53 retry -rw-r----- 1 mail mail 0 Jul 27 00:53 retry.lockfile -rw-r----- 1 root root 4096 Jul 27 01:05 wait-remote_smtp -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jul 27 01:05 wait-remote_smtp.lockfile The wait-remote_* were initially owned by mail and according to exim.org should stillbe owned by mail. If I chown them back to mail:mail the first error message regarding the lockfile disppears on the first message sent, but then they revert root:root and that error returns. The lists here and on exim.org mention that the second problem, ("Neither the system_aslias director ... set a uid...") is caused by missing a user = username entry for the _transports. All the transports have the user = MAILMAN_UID line as directed by the README.Exim. MAILMAN_UID has been set to both list (as suggested in README.Exim) and to mail as sugested on the exim.org lists. In all cases, the same error message result. The directors portion mentions that order matters, yet the README does not specifiy where they should go. I've tried a few positions (beginning, end, middle) again none work. What key point have I been missing? Eric

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mailman idea.
by mailman＠cloudtown.com 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

I know I have created a maillist for all my friends so if I am leaving I can email them all at once. I just run into the problem every now and then that i can remember whose emails is whose. Is there a way to add an option for people to maybe enter there there name, be it first with last initial or someting. Just something to help identify whose email is whose?? Thanks. LB

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