Mailman 3 August 2002 - Mailman-Users

Forget password form and unsubscribe without password
by Kory Wheatley 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

In mailman 2.0.13 is there a way for users to unsubscribe without remembering their password. I know you can send a message to listname-request(a)domain.com, and in the body put unsubscribe, but this requires a password. Has anyone developed a web forget password form, where the user can type in their email address and it will send them their mailman subscribers password. I would appreciate it if anyone would share their code. I'm trying to learn python. Kory Wheatley

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Mailman stopped working after changing IP address
by walter stafford 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Hi, After I changed the ip address of my linux box, mailman stopped working. (Our ISP assigned us a new IP range). I have changed the hosts file and rerun the m4 sendmail.mc config script. But somehwere i have missed something. I created a new test list and tried to subscribe to it throught the web interface but I get no repsonse from it. There are a lot of files piling up in /home/mailman/qfiles None of the lists (I have 4) will forward messages or allow new subscriptions. Can anyone help?? Walter Stafford

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RE: [Mailman-Users] make install fails for 2.1b3
by Dan Mick 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

> "/src/mailman-2.1b3/misc/paths.py", but "make install" does not copy it > to "$prefix/bin". Don't know why. top-level Makefile: SUBDIRS= bin cron misc Mailman scripts src templates messages tests install: -> doinstall: -> @for d in $(SUBDIRS); \ do \ (cd $$d; $(MAKE) install); \ done misc/Makefile: PATHSDIRS= bin cron scripts install: . . for d in $(PATHSDIRS); \ do \ dir=$(prefix)/$$d; \ $(INSTALL) -m $(FILEMODE) paths.py $$dir; \ done . . Maybe you have a broken make?

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Pause or queue message delivery
by Kory Wheatley 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

I've got a Mailman mailing list that contains 14,000 subscribers, on a Linux box that's using sendmail has the delivery agent that sends all of the messages to one mail host, because all 14,000 subscribers have an email account on our mail server. This Linux box is only used to deliver our Mailman mailing to our Mail server which is a HPUX 11 server, using sendmail as the routing agent. We sent a message to the 14,000 recipient mailing list the other day and it put the load on our Unix Box that contains our mail server to the roof How can I setup sendmail or Mailman to not kill the system so hard when I send to this mailing list, can I change something in sendmail to maybe pause or queue delivery, after a certain number of messages that have been delivered and keep that sequence happening, or deliver 15 at a time and then pause 40 seconds or something, to cause better performance. I know that when I send to the mailing list, in our server logs sendmail creates a envelope of 21 recipients, is this the problem? It's not real critical that these messages when sent to the mailing list are received right away, so having a pause or delay between messages is not a problem. I've not done much configuration changes to sendmail or Mailman so, I would appreciate any help that would allow this delivery to allow better performance. -- ######################################### Kory Wheatley Academic Computing Analyst Sr. Phone 282-3874 ######################################### Everything must point to him.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] changing default welcome message
by Odhiambo Washington 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

* Christopher Adams <chris.a.adams(a)state.or.us> [20020829 18:51]: wrote: > What is the "web UI" config options? Are you speaking of the web interface? Yes, the latter. > If so, all that allows me to do is eliminate sending a welcome message to > users that the owner subscribes from the web interface and/or the text that > the owner appends to the default. Correct, I should have clarified myself. I am sorry I did not. > That doesn't give the option of actually changing or elminating the default > welcome message altogether. Maybe I am missing something. I grep-ed thro the mailman directory and found the message locations: sudo find /usr/local/mailman -type f -exec grep -li 'Welcome' {} \; | less Then I took a look and saw that the welcome message is a template with vars to be substituted. There must be another script that does the subsitituions. I guess that script is the "add_member" script, but I am not aware how you could manipulate either the welcome message template or the add_member script to work on a per list basis. The welcome message template is in: $prefix/templates/en/subscribeack.txt -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington <wash(a)wananchi.com> "The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: +254 2 313985-9 +254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." GSM: +254 72 743223 +254 733 744121 This sig is McQ! :-) If you want to know what god thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to. -- Dorthy Parker

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Serialize?
by J C Lawrence 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:54:23 -0600 Ashley M Kirchner <ashley(a)pcraft.com> wrote: > Ya, I realize all of this, however I have clients who would like, are > requesting, and generally want this type of mechanism built in. The > main reason is because many of the subscribers no longer remember what > e-mail address they used to subscribe, and consequently don't know > what to use to UNsubscribe. Having Mailman serialize its messages > will provide a simple way for them to unsubscribe. 0) That is what the password reminders are for: They remind people that they are subscribed, and under what address etc. 1) See VERP 2) Search the list archives for references to VERP, and in particular Chuq von Rospach's analysis. 3) Mailman v2.1 can do VERP (kinda) -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw(a)kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.

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RE: changing the default welcome message
by Christopher Adams 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

What is the "web UI" config options? Are you speaking of the web interface? If so, all that allows me to do is eliminate sending a welcome message to users that the owner subscribes from the web interface and/or the text that the owner appends to the default. That doesn't give the option of actually changing or elminating the default welcome message altogether. Maybe I am missing something Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library 503-378-4243 x258 chris.a.adams(a)state.or.us ----- Original Message ----- From: "Odhiambo Washington" <wash(a)wananchi.com> To: "Christopher Adams" <Chris.A.Adams(a)state.or.us> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] changing default welcome message > * Christopher Adams <chris.a.adams(a)state.or.us> [20020829 18:21]: wrote: > > I have searched the archives and have seen this question, but no clear > > answer. If I want to change or eliminate the default welcome message for > > specific lists, what is the procedure? > > You should look in the web UI config options for your lists. > > -Wash > > -- > Odhiambo Washington <wash(a)wananchi.com> "The box said 'Requires > Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' > Tel: +254 2 313985-9 +254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." > GSM: +254 72 743223 +254 733 744121 This sig is McQ! :-) > > Chicken Little only has to be right once. > Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library 503-378-4243 x258 chris.a.adams(a)state.or.us

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changing default welcome message
by Christopher Adams 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

I have searched the archives and have seen this question, but no clear answer. If I want to change or eliminate the default welcome message for specific lists, what is the procedure? Christopher Adams Automated Systems Oregon State Library 503-378-4243 x258 chris.a.adams(a)state.or.us

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Another Postfix/Mailman post but not a GID problem.
by Detlef Neubauer 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Randy Romero <splat(a)fury.to> writes: > ::postfix main.cf entries:: > alias_database = dbm:/etc/postfix/aliases > alias_maps = dbm:/home/mailman/aliases I think ,---- | alias_database = dbm:/etc/postfix/aliases, dbm:/home/mailman/aliases | alias_maps = dbm:/etc/postfix/aliases, dbm:/home/mailman/aliases `---- is better. I have Linux and Postfix and ,---- | alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/etc/aliases.mailman | alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/etc/aliases.mailman `---- works fine for me. If i change my aliases file Postfix needs a newaliases command. Please send no Cc. I answer only via the list. Detlef Neubauer -- .oO GnuPG Key auf http://www.keyserver.net/ Oo.

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List posting to newsgroup gateway - please help
by mailman＠davetopping.com 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

I am trying to work out how to 'forward' a mailman list post to a 'remote' usenet gateway for two (2) newsgroups. The mailman list is located on my own system. The usenet gateway is www.uncensored-news.com. Can this be done and does anyone know how? TIA

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