Mailman 3 November 2003 - Mailman-Users

Spanish Mailman List Member Manual available! - reviewers needed!
by pchamorro Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

Dear Mailman Users, I finished the Spanish translation of 'GNU Mailman - List Member Manual' written by Terri Oda. If somebody knows about spanish-fluent mailman users, please forward this message to him/her. The translated manual is available in both HTML and PDF formats at the below addresses. I already contacted to the Spanish Internationalization leader, but he seems too busy :(, so, the review of the translation is really needed. Any comment is welcome! Pablo Chamorro C. ---------- … [View More]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman don´t deliver toall the accounts
by Jon Carnes Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

You are doing same server delivery for all your users... and some of the users are not getting the messages? Look in your logs for your MTA. On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 13:33, Luigi Vellucci wrote: > My list is a private list only the users inside in the same server can post to the list, that means the delivery is in the same server. I haven´t blacklisted anyone and I have 512MB RAM in a two processor server and I still have a little bit of ram and plenty the swap is there another thing that I … [View More]

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Where I can find these variables? QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME, QRUNNER_PROCESS_LIFETIME , QRUNNER_MAX_MESSAGES
by Luigi Vellucci Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

Can somebody tell me where I can find these variables QRUNNER_LOCK_LIFETIME ,QRUNNER_PROCESS_LIFETIME , QRUNNER_MAX_MESSAGES Thanks in advance

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Sendmail and Mailman
by Ranna Rebou�as Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

I have install mailman in a machine but my mail server is in a other one. Which configurations should I do? thanks in advance...

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Easy Install Instructions for Mailman and (exim, postfix or sendmail)
by Mike Gifford Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

Hello, I've got a pretty vanilla Red Hat install and am trying to get Mailman set up, but I'm stumbling on getting a mail program up running so that I can receive mail. I've started to install exim (but their docs are overly complicated). Sendmail & postfix were installed, but not properly configured. I've heard about nightmares with sendmail configs. I'd prefer to use an rpm, but red hat doesn't have an exim rpm out there. A year or two ago i set up mailman & exim on another … [View More]

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Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 14, Issue 52
by Pat Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

Pueden contertar que es esto? >Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to > mailman-users(a)python.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mailman-users-request(a)python.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > mailman-users-owner(a)python.org > >When replying, please … [View More]edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..." >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Unwanted headers in mail body (W. van Eis) > 2. RE: wrapper script run as nogroup (Jeremy Gilbert) > 3. Re: wrapper script run as nogroup (Todd) > 4. Re: wrapper script run as nogroup (Todd) > 5. Mailing List Defaults (Merle Reine) > 6. Re: Mailing List Defaults (Jon Carnes) > 7. only one member in web interface (Brett Dikeman) > 8. transfer mailman to a new server (Ako Ito) > 9. RE: wrapper script run as nogroup (Jeremy Gilbert) > 10. Managing Newsletters with large number of contributors? > (Uwe Gaertner) > 11. http/https and archives. (Chris Johnson) > 12. wanting to see web interface for mailman (Sandra J. Wald) >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >From: "W. van Eis" <wop(a)quicknet.nl> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >References: <20031120095751.GM9721(a)tik.ee.ethz.ch> > <009501c3af53$7ae721a0$6401a8c0@asusl5800c> >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:39:13 +0100 >Message-ID: <001301c3b2cb$07eddc40$6401a8c0@asusl5800c> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Unwanted headers in mail body >Message: 1 > > > >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Unwanted headers in mail body > >Once agian.. somebody ?? > > > > HI, > > > > I'm new to this list. Hope you can help me out. > > > > I'm running a mail list through a ISP, so i'm not the owner of the server > > and don't have acces to the Mailman host. > > But i've the following question; Some of our users recieve mails with > > complete headers in the body and the original message is messed up. And > > there's now sender visable. Could anyone tell me how to solve this >problem? > > I don't happens all the time on al the messages, but it's very irritating. > > > > Every help would be greatfull... > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Wop > > > > Running mailist on : www.verenigdestaten.info ( dutch site ) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: >http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > This message was sent to: wop(a)quicknet.nl > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/wop%40quicknet.nl > > > > > > > >From: "Jeremy Gilbert" <zhq9eva02(a)sneakemail.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:25:23 -0500 >Message-ID: <30176-79679(a)sneakemail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] wrapper script run as nogroup >Message: 2 > > > Your interpretation is not quite correct. > > > > When it is run, and as a security precaution, the mailman >wrapper > > checks the group of the process which is executing it is what it > > > expects and then and only then runs the mail delivery script >with the > > mailman gid. This expected gid is compiled into the mailman > > wrapper as > > the value of --with-mail-gid from ./configure. > > > > The issue is not what gid the wrapper should run the Mailman >mail > > delivery script as but what gid the wrapper expects the > > process running > > it to have. > > > > The error message is saying that it is being run with the gid >nogroup > > when it was told to expect to be run by a process with the > > gid mailman. > > If you want to stick with that then Postfix, repeat Postfix, has >to > > execute with the gid mailman. Which may or may not be what you >want. > > > >Okay, great. I'm not sure about your explanation, but when I >changed all the aliases and aliases.db files on my system to >mailman:mailman ownership, everything is finally working. By your >explanation, Postfix must be running as gid mailman now. > >Thanks for the help, everyone. Should this be added to the >documentation somewhere? I can usually find anything using the >documentation, but I really don't think this information is in the >documentation or FAQ anywhere. > >Thanks again, >Jeremy Gilbert >zhq9eva02(a)sneakemail.com > > >From: Todd <Freedom_Lover(a)pobox.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Mailman <mailman-users(a)python.org> >References: <19605-57032(a)sneakemail.com> > <20031124172546.GA18451(a)psilocybe.teonanacatl.org> > <34281DB6-1EB0-11D8-B6A3-000A957C9A50(a)openinfo.co.uk> >In-Reply-To: <34281DB6-1EB0-11D8-B6A3-000A957C9A50(a)openinfo.co.uk> >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:51:57 -0500 >Reply-To: Todd <Freedom_Lover(a)pobox.com> >Message-ID: <20031124215157.GI18451(a)psilocybe.teonanacatl.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] wrapper script run as nogroup >Message: 3 > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Richard Barrett wrote: > > On 24 Nov 2003, at 17:25, Todd wrote: > >> What are the perms on /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman? Postfix > >> should be executing the script as whatever group the wrapper has. > > > > Your interpretation is not quite correct. > > > > When it is run, and as a security precaution, the mailman wrapper > > checks the group of the process which is executing it is what it > > expects and then and only then runs the mail delivery script with > > the mailman gid. This expected gid is compiled into the mailman > > wrapper as the value of --with-mail-gid from ./configure. > > > > The issue is not what gid the wrapper should run the Mailman mail > > delivery script as but what gid the wrapper expects the process > > running it to have. > > > > The error message is saying that it is being run with the gid > > nogroup when it was told to expect to be run by a process with the > > gid mailman. If you want to stick with that then Postfix, repeat > > Postfix, has to execute with the gid mailman. Which may or may not > > be what you want. > >The OP said that the error he was getting indicated that Postfix was >running the wrapper as nogroup, when mailman was expecting it to be >run as group mailman. I didn't think there was anything really to >configure with Postfix in this regard. I believed that it executed >with the group that the wrapper had, which his permissions showed was >group mailman. > >Am I missing something here? Does Postfix 2.0 behave differently in >this regard? > >I did just notice Jeremy's follow-up that he changed the group on the >aliases files and that did the trick. I was thinking that postfix >would run the wrapper as the group of the wrapper, but instead it runs >them as the group of the aliases file I guess. Perhaps one of the >posfix gurus can jump in if that's wrong. > >- -- >Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp >====================================================================== >How much does it cost to entice a dope-smoking UNIX system guru to >Dayton? > -- Brian Boyle, UNIX/WORLD's First Annual Salary Survey > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > >iD8DBQE/wn19uv+09NZUB1oRAh2JAJ9cUN5KFFdlBUmDi7HQ69v4PLTE2ACgligy >UxbWNV/RikHQo5wEx9dacWw= >=WQpd >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >From: Todd <Freedom_Lover(a)pobox.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >References: <30176-79679(a)sneakemail.com> >In-Reply-To: <30176-79679(a)sneakemail.com> >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:57:10 -0500 >Reply-To: Todd <Freedom_Lover(a)pobox.com> >Message-ID: <20031124215710.GJ18451(a)psilocybe.teonanacatl.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] wrapper script run as nogroup >Message: 4 > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Jeremy Gilbert wrote: > > Okay, great. I'm not sure about your explanation, but when I > > changed all the aliases and aliases.db files on my system to > > mailman:mailman ownership, everything is finally working. By your > > explanation, Postfix must be running as gid mailman now. > > > > Thanks for the help, everyone. Should this be added to the > > documentation somewhere? I can usually find anything using the > > documentation, but I really don't think this information is in the > > documentation or FAQ anywhere. > >Well, README.POSTFIX does say this: > > Make sure that the owner of the data/aliases and data/aliases.db > file is `mailman' and that the group owner for those files is > `mailman'. E.g.: > > % su > % chown mailman:mailman data/aliases* > >- -- >Todd OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xD654075A | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp >====================================================================== >When a man says he approves of something in principle, it means he >hasn't the slightest intention of carrying it out in practice. > -- Prince Otto > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: When crypto is outlawed bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl. > >iD8DBQE/wn62uv+09NZUB1oRAgTZAKCqoWTCcpsx1vw0KHbWyjMq6ViB1ACdHIj+ >+0SnBkzmEeDkYyIewy8hpUI= >=Sm8I >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: Merle Reine <merle.reine(a)lindows.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Cc: >To: mailman-users(a)python.org, merle.reine(a)lindows.com >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:50:25 -0800 >Message-ID: <3FC28B31.8010908(a)lindows.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List Defaults >Message: 5 > >Hello, all. > >I have around 300 mailing lists and more going up all the time. For each >list I setup, I have to setup some defaults for our company such as >listadmin, do not send pass reminders, digest options, etc. >My question is, is there a way to set my particular defaults to be the >defaults for a newlist creation? So when I create a new list, all the >settings that I usually have to go into and change for each and every list >would already be there? > >I have created a custom admin page with just a simple text box with >"Create List". this way, only I can get to this page and to add a list, I >simply type in the name and hit submit to create the list. If I could get >it to have all the defaults I normally have to change and have them setup >by default, it would make for no hassle management. > >If anyone knows where the defaults are stored for a list creation, or how >to change all of the defaults, please let me know. > > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: Jon Carnes <jonc(a)nc.rr.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >To: Merle Reine <merle.reine(a)lindows.com> >References: <3FC28B31.8010908(a)lindows.com> >In-Reply-To: <3FC28B31.8010908(a)lindows.com> >Date: 24 Nov 2003 19:09:58 -0500 >Reply-To: jonc(a)nc.rr.com >Message-ID: <1069718998.4376.222.camel(a)localhost.localdomain> >Content-Type: text/plain >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List Defaults >Message: 6 > >On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 17:50, Merle Reine wrote: > > Hello, all. > > > > I have around 300 mailing lists and more going up all the time. For > > each list I setup, I have to setup some defaults for our company such as > > listadmin, do not send pass reminders, digest options, etc. > > > > My question is, is there a way to set my particular defaults to be the > > defaults for a newlist creation? So when I create a new list, all the > > settings that I usually have to go into and change for each and every > > list would already be there? > > > > I have created a custom admin page with just a simple text box with > > "Create List". this way, only I can get to this page and to add a list, > > I simply type in the name and hit submit to create the list. If I could > > get it to have all the defaults I normally have to change and have them > > setup by default, it would make for no hassle management. > > > > If anyone knows where the defaults are stored for a list creation, or > > how to change all of the defaults, please let me know. > > >Most of these can be set in ~mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py (look in >Defaults.py and copy over the settings you want to change as your list >defaults). > >Jon Carnes > > > >From: Brett Dikeman <brett(a)cloud9.net> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:49:02 -0500 >Message-ID: <a05200f06bbe8653b181a(a)[192.168.1.2]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Subject: [Mailman-Users] only one member in web interface >Message: 7 > >On our larger lists(1000 people), we only see one address listed in the >web UI, instead of the usual 25 or so per page that we used to see in 2.0; >some lists 5 or so, others more like 10 or 15. Very inconsistent. Is >this normal? If so, very annoying. The smaller lists seem fine... > >Brett >-- >---- >"They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary >safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin >http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ > > > > > >From: "Ako Ito" <allan(a)lxd1.asiandevbank.org> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:08:42 +0800 >Message-ID: <006c01c3b301$6e65a440$578b17ac@a3gts4> >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Subject: [Mailman-Users] transfer mailman to a new server >Message: 8 > >anyone have successfuly transferred/migrated a working mailman server to a >new server.. what steps do i need to undertake to successfully migrate >it.. thanks > >From: "Jeremy Gilbert" <zhq9eva02(a)sneakemail.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:39:38 -0500 >Message-ID: <15701-87133(a)sneakemail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] wrapper script run as nogroup >Message: 9 > > > Well, README.POSTFIX does say this: > > > > Make sure that the owner of the data/aliases and >data/aliases.db > > file is `mailman' and that the group owner for those files >is > > `mailman'. E.g.: > > > > % su > > % chown mailman:mailman data/aliases* > >Yes, I saw that, and I followed those instructions, but until I >changed the ownership of /etc/aliases and /etc/postfix/aliases* >the wrapper was still being run as gid "nogroup". I think the >documentation should be changed to also recommend change those >files to group ownership of mailman. > >Jeremy Gilbert >zhq9eva02(a)sneakemail.com > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Uwe Gaertner" <ufgmail(a)gmx.de> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:43:17 +0100 (MET) >Message-ID: <23872.1069771397(a)www41.gmx.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Managing Newsletters with large number of > contributors? >Message: 10 > >Hi everybody, > >I'm managing a group of mailman-newsletters each with a large number of >contributors. In order to grant write-access to the lists only to the >contributors all members are set to 'moderated' by default and the >moderated-flag is >disabled manually for the contributors if they are also subscribers to the >list >(which is the default case). > >Here is my question: Is there an easy way to manage the 'moderated'-flag - >e.g. via a list of e-mail-addresses - so that the uncomfortable manual process >can be avoided? > >Any help is ver much appreciated! > >Uwe Gaertner > >-- >GMX Weihnachts-Special: Seychellen-Traumreise zu gewinnen! > >Rentier entlaufen. Finden Sie Rudolph! Als Belohnung winken >tolle Preise. http://www.gmx.net/de/cgi/specialmail/ > >+++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++ > > > >From: Chris Johnson <johnson(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Cc: >To: mailman-users(a)python.org >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:11:54 -0500 (EST) >Message-ID: ><Pine.LNX.4.44.0311251104380.14224-100000(a)maequeses.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: [Mailman-Users] http/https and archives. >Message: 11 > > Hi, > > These are probably questions previously answered by I haven't found >answers to them. > > First, is there a way to make the Web interface work with secure >web, i.e. https, rather than http? We want the passwds to be ecrypted >at least. I know what to in Apache but is there anything in Mailman >that needs to be changed to have it generate https for its Web pages. > > Second, I want to move some Majordomo lists to Mailman. Is there >a way to transfer the archives to mailman archives. Documentation >seems a bit scarce. > > Help apprecitated. Many thanks. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Chris Johnson |Internet: johnson(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >Systems Administrator |Web: http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~johnson >NMR Center |Voice: 617.726.0949 >Mass. General Hospital |FAX: 617.726.7422 >149 (2301) 13th Street |I'm continually amazed by mankind's seemingly >Charlestown, MA., 02129 USA |infinite capacity for stupidity. Me >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >From: "Sandra J. Wald" <swald(a)ssc.wisc.edu> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:20:36 -0600 >Message-ID: <00e101c3b2d0$ce21d010$55bc5c90(a)ads.ssc.wisc.edu> >Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; > micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DC_01C3B29E.8298E160" >Subject: [Mailman-Users] wanting to see web interface for mailman >Message: 12 > >Hello, > >Do you have a demo or screen shots for mailman listowner? > >sincerely, >Sandra > >Sandra Wald >SSCC - Helpdesk Coordinator >Rm 4315 Social Science (608) 265-4922 >University of Wisconsin - Madison > >Gandhi: >"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress >can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." > >------------------------------------------------------ >Mailman-Users mailing list >Mailman-Users(a)python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ [View Less]

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Mailman don´t deliver to all the accounts
by Luigi Vellucci Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

IŽm running RedHat 7.3 with the mailman 2.1.2 installed by a RPM and my MTA is sendmail 8.12. I donŽt know what happen I have a list with 1200 accounts and when I sent a email to the list not everyone gets the email. Can you help about what I should check? I created a new list with 5 accounts and everything works fine. Thanks in advance. Luigi.

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http/https and archives.
by Chris Johnson Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

Hi, These are probably questions previously answered by I haven't found answers to them. First, is there a way to make the Web interface work with secure web, i.e. https, rather than http? We want the passwds to be ecrypted at least. I know what to in Apache but is there anything in Mailman that needs to be changed to have it generate https for its Web pages. Second, I want to move some Majordomo lists to Mailman. Is there a way to transfer the archives to mailman … [View More]

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The mailman doesn´t deliver mails to all the accounts
by Luigi Vellucci Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

I have a RedHat Linux 7.3 with mailman 2.1.3, I installed in a tar.gz source and I have a list with 1200 accounts and when a sent a email to the list, this email didn´t arrive to some accounts including me, I checked the logs but I didn´t found any error, I use sendmail 8.12. Can someboy help me please. Thanks Luigi

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Managing Newsletters with large number of contributors?
by Uwe Gaertner Nov. 25, 2003

Nov. 25, 2003

Hi everybody, I'm managing a group of mailman-newsletters each with a large number of contributors. In order to grant write-access to the lists only to the contributors all members are set to 'moderated' by default and the moderated-flag is disabled manually for the contributors if they are also subscribers to the list (which is the default case). Here is my question: Is there an easy way to manage the 'moderated'-flag - e.g. via a list of e-mail-addresses - so that the uncomfortable manual … [View More]

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