Mailman 3 December 2003 - Mailman-Users

Mailman installation
by Jahir Jimenez 02 Jan '04

02 Jan '04

I want to install this tool to make my mail list public for other users on my Company Network, but, I don't know how to install it or manage the .tar file that you send to me Because I'm not too expert about linux's systems. If you got some documents or something to help me I'll appreciate it. Regards,

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ASCII error
by Sean 01 Jan '04

01 Jan '04

Hi, I'm running Mailman 2.1.3 on a FreeBSD 4.6 box. I tried to run the sync_members script and got this error: # ~mailman/bin/sync_members -n -f stories-news-and-other-good-stuff_regular_members stories-news-and-other-good-stuff Dry run mode Added : ayalah(a)rcn.com Removed: 110742.522(a)compuserve.com Removed: karen_vona_mcintyre/cam/lotus(a)lotus.com Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/mailman/bin/sync_members", line 286, in ? main() File "/usr/mailman/bin/sync_members", line 277, in main s = email.Utils.formataddr((name, addr)).encode(enc, 'replace') UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) I'm not sure that the error mesasge means or what cause it. Any ideas? Thanks, Sean Happy New Year!

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New Mailman User
by April Cox 01 Jan '04

01 Jan '04

Hi there! I was hoping someone out there could help me. I'm a new user of mailman and am creating a list for a professional organization. It's an outgoing-bound list only, specifically I'll be using it to send out meeting announcements and reminders. I was able to set it up to not allow members or non-members to post to the list. But I was unable to prevent it from allowing people to respond to the email they receive from me. Right now it goes to the list - which I don't want. I set the option to REPLY-TO an explicit address and entered my email address, so that when people have questions about the meeting or announcement, I can respond to them, and it doesn't post to the list. But it doesn't work. It's still being sent to the group. I could remove the listname from being in the FROM field, but if I do that, then my own name is the one that the message comes from, which is not my intention either, since it is a message for the group sent by the association - not me personally. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? The version of mailman that I'm using is: version 2.1.2. Thank you in advance for your help. Happy New Year! April

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RELEASED Mailman 2.1.4
by barry＠python.org 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

I have released Mailman 2.1.4, a bug fix release that also contains support for four new languages: Catalan, Croatian, Romanian, and Slovenian. This release also contains a fix for a cross-site scripting vulnerability in the 'admin' cgi script (see CAN-2003-0965). There is also an expanded ability to filter message headers, nominally to provide better support when Mailman is used in conjunction with upstream spam and virus filters. The full source tarball has been made available from the usual sites. Sorry, there is no patch available yet, but you should be able to install Mailman 2.1.4 over your existing 2.1.x installation. See http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103 for links to the downloadable files. After installing, be sure you restart your Mailman daemon by doing a "mailmanctl restart". IMPORTANT: You will want to re-run configure before doing a make install. See also: http://www.list.org http://mailman.sf.net http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman Enjoy, and have a Happy New Year. -Barry -------------------- snip snip -------------------- 2.1.4 (31-Dec-2003) - Close some cross-site scripting vulnerabilities in the admin pages (CAN-2003-0965). - New languages: Catalan, Croatian, Romanian, Slovenian. - New mm_cfg.py/Defaults.py variable PUBLIC_MBOX which allows the site administrator to disable public access to all the raw list mbox files (this is not a per-list configuration). - Expanded header filter rules under Privacy -> Spam Filters. Now you can specify regular expression matches against any header, with specific actions tied to those matches. - Rework the SMTP error handling in SMTPDirect.py to avoid scoring bounces for all recipients when a permanent error code is returned by the mail server (e.g. because of content restrictions). - Promoted SYNC_AFTER_WRITE to a Default.py/mm_cfg.py variable and make it control syncing on the config.pck file. Also, we always flush and sync message files. - Reduce archive bloat by not storing the HTML body of Article objects in the Pipermail database. A new script bin/rb-archfix was added to clean up older archives. - Proper RFC quoting for List-ID descriptions. - PKGDIR can be passed to the make command in order to specify a different directory to unpack the distutils packages in misc. (SF bug 784700). - Improved logging of the origin of subscription requests. - Bugs and patches: 832748 (unsubscribe_policy ignored for unsub button on member login page), 846681 (bounce disabled cookie was always out of date), 835870 (check VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW on through the web list creation), 835036 (global address change when the new address is already a member of one of the lists), 833384 (incorrect admin password on a hold message confirmation attachment would discard the message), 835012 (fix permission on empty archive index), 816410 (confirmation page consistency), 834486 (catch empty charsets in the scrubber), 777444 (set the process's supplemental groups if possible), 860135 (ignore DiscardMessage exceptions during digest scrubbing), 828811 (reduce process size for list and admin overviews), 864674/864676 (problems accessing private archives and rosters with admin password), 865661 (Tokio Kikuchi's i18n patches), 862906 (unicode prefix leak in admindb), 841445 (setting new_member_options via config_list), n/a (fixed email command 'set delivery')

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Downgrade/migration problem
by Lars Bungum 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 18:12, Stephen Gran wrote: > On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 11:03:51PM +0100, Lars Bungum said: > > On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 03:46, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > Mail coming in to the lists and going out to users works just fine. > > > Mail going to admins is accepted by exim, and passed to mailman, but > > > mailman never delivers list-admin mail. I see this in logs/error: > > > > > Dec 01 21:38:06 2003 (15951) Delivery exception: bad marshal data > > > Dec 01 21:38:06 2003 (15951) Traceback (most recent call last): > > > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline > > > func(mlist, msg, msgdata) > > > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py", line 152, in process > > > hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, NonMemberPost) > > > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py", line 218, in hold_for_approval > > > mlist.HoldMessage(msg, reason, msgdata) > > > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 145, in HoldMessage > > > self.__opendb() > > > File "/usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 69, in __opendb > > > self.__db = marshal.load(fp) > > > ValueError: bad marshal data > > > > I'm seeing the same erros in my logs/error (log getting very large, > > btw), and don't understand what's wrong. Did you get any closer to > > resolving this issue? Everything seems to be working here as well. > Some of the request.db's were corrupted, IIRC. I had to do > some for loop, echoing thefilename back out, to get it to tell me which > one, then Imoved it aside and reran until it worked. Let me see if I > can find what I did . . . no, I can't find it right now. Basically just > loop over all of your request.db's while running the cron job's > (chekc_dbs ?), and when it errors, you've found a corrupt one. Move it > aside, and rerun. Rinse, lather, repeat. It took a while, but I > finally got all 50 or so running OK again. (CC-ing to list as it probably is of general interest). Thank you! Your solution seems to have solved my problem. However, I just moved the corrupted request.dbs away and replaced them with empty ones. Is there any way to look into these databases to find out what has gone wrong with them? --lars

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Uploading Member Lists
by April Cox 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

Thanks - yes that worked! My last task before actually using the mailing list is to upload the 750 or so emails and names. I can't see anything in the documentation that tells me how to get the name to be imported. I've tried uploading the file of email + name separated by commas, tabs. It imports the email, but leaves the name behind. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Thanks for the help! April

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Re: [Mailman-Users] allowing non members to post to a list
by Michael 'keyser' Vettas AOCAB Director 31 Dec '03

31 Dec '03

Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined. (Details for generic_nonmember_action) Accept Its already set to accept. With it set to 'accept' will i as list owner receive moderation emails stating that there are emails waiting to be accepted because they are from non members? Thanks in advance and Happy New Year Everyone > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Hochstein" <ml(a)ancalagon.inka.de> > To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] allowing non members to post to a list > > > > keyser(a)aocab.com ("Michael 'keyser' Vettas AOCAB Director") > > scripsit/wrote: > > > > > So is there a way non members can post to a list but not join a list, > > > > Yes. > > > > Set "generic_nonmember_action" to "accept". You find that option at > > <http://your.host.example/mailman/admin/$your-list/privacy/sender>. > > > > -thh > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > This message was sent to: keyser(a)aocab.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/keyser%40aocab.com > > > > > > > >

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EOF/Bad marshal data
by Lars Bungum 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Howdy! I'm experiencing similar errors to those described by Stephen Gran early in December as well as these: --- Dec 30 23:46:13 2003 (97949) Delivery exception: EOF read where object expected Dec 30 23:46:13 2003 (97949) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 83, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py", line 183, in process hold_for_approval(mlist, msg, msgdata, ImplicitDestination) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Hold.py", line 219, in hold_for_approval mlist.HoldMessage(msg, reason, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 145, in HoldMessage self.__opendb() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ListAdmin.py", line 69, in __opendb self.__db = marshal.load(fp) EOFError: EOF read where object expected --- I'm fumbling a bit, really, making my question simple - how can I debug this problem further? What seems to be the problem? --lars

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Permissions question...
by mjn 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

I started having problems after some disk issues and some moving of various parts of my current mailman installation. For the most part everything is working again except for this one thing: when a user goes to the web and attempts to subscribe, they get the "we're sorry, we hit a bug" page. After seeing the "Permission Denied" error in the traceback, i tried 'chmod g+w' on pending_subscriptions.db and making the GID on pending_subscriptions.db 'apache' instead of 'mailman' and the problem went away. Given that we know it is a problem with who the cgi is executing as -and I know that bin/check_perms tells me that 'apache' is unexpected for the GID on that file- how would i go about getting this working "correctly" (i.e. with mailman:mailman chown on pending_subscription.db)? Any advice is much appretiated...thanks. The output to logs/error looks like this: Dec 30 13:55:57 2003 admin(30998): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(30998): [----- Mailman Version: 2.0.13 -----] admin(30998): [----- Traceback ------] admin(30998): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(30998): File "/mailman-2.0.13/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main admin(30998): main() admin(30998): File "../Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 76, in main admin(30998): process_form(mlist, doc) admin(30998): File "../Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py", line 187, in process_form admin(30998): mlist.AddMember(email, pw, digest, remote) admin(30998): File "/mailman-2.0.13/Mailman/MailList.py", line 983, in AddMember admin(30998): cookie = Pending().new(name, password, digest) admin(30998): File "../Mailman/Pending.py", line 74, in new admin(30998): self.__save(db) admin(30998): File "../Mailman/Pending.py", line 111, in __save admin(30998): fp = open(self.db_path, "w") admin(30998): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/mailman/data/pending_subscriptions.db' admin(30998): [----- Python Information -----] admin(30998): sys.version = 2.2.1 (#1, Apr 9 2002, 13:10:27) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98)] admin(30998): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python2 admin(30998): sys.prefix = /usr admin(30998): sys.exec_prefix= /usr admin(30998): sys.path = /usr admin(30998): sys.platform = linux2 admin(30998): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(30998): HTTP_ACCEPT: */* admin(30998): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(30998): HTTP_REFERER: http://mailman.coafes.umn.edu/mailman/listinfo/sustag admin(30998): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.2 PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 admin(30998): PYTHONPATH: /mailman-2.0.13 admin(30998): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /mailman/cgi-bin/subscribe admin(30998): SERVER_ADMIN: root@localhost admin(30998): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/subscribe admin(30998): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.27 Server at monolith.coafes.umn.edu Port 80</ADDRESS> admin(30998): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(30998): HTTP_HOST: mailman.coafes.umn.edu admin(30998): PATH_INFO: /sustag admin(30998): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(30998): QUERY_STRING: admin(30998): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/subscribe/sustag admin(30998): CONTENT_LENGTH: 72 admin(30998): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/106.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/100.1 admin(30998): HTTP_CONNECTION: close admin(30998): HTTP_COOKIE: sustag:admin=2802000000699db7f13f732800000030383539333331633561633736313135393238356635316535393763643531313939656365323739 admin(30998): SERVER_NAME: monolith.coafes.umn.edu admin(30998): REMOTE_ADDR: 160.94.212.129 admin(30998): REMOTE_PORT: 53016 admin(30998): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-us, ja;q=0.62, de-de;q=0.93, de;q=0.90, fr-fr;q=0.86, fr;q=0.83, nl-nl;q=0.79, nl;q=0.76, it-it;q=0.72, it;q=0.69, ja-jp;q=0.66, en;q=0.97, es-es;q=0.$ admin(30998): PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/html/sustag admin(30998): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(30998): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(30998): REMOTE_HOST: c212-129.dhcp.umn.edu admin(30998): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate;q=1.0, identity;q=0.5, *;q=0 admin(30998): SERVER_ADDR: 134.84.89.152 admin(30998): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html -- _______________________________________________ Mike Neuharth ADCS Technology Specialist http://www.umn.edu/adcs =============================================== E-Mail : mjn(a)umn.edu Page Mail : 6126486512(a)page.metrocall.com _______________________________________________ "What is important, it seems to me, is not so much to defend a culture whose existence has never kept a man from going hungry, as to extract, from what is called culture, ideas whose compelling force is identical with that of hunger." -Antonin Artaud

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Mailman
by Haris Causevic 30 Dec '03

30 Dec '03

Hi guys, I have a quick question for you. I have just set up a new mailing list. What I am trying to do, and am having problems doing is, I am trying to send a message to the mailing list, and not have the attachment with the email, specifying the mailing list name, address, and the http address where one can go to subscribe and unsubscribe. Any help or pointers on how I can get rid of it, will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Haris

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