Mailman 3 December 2003 - Mailman-Users

RE: how to configure mailman to use a specific python?
by Paul H Byerly 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Ben wrote: >We have an old version of python installed which is heavily used by the >Ensim, so I need to compile the up-to-date version to an isolated place >and assign mailman to use this installation. Can someone tell me how to do >the configuration for mailman before installation. Thanks. First install the new python using the altinstall option: wget http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.2.2/Python-2.2.2.tgz tar xvzf Python-2.2.2.tgz cd Python-2.2.2 ./configure make make altinstall This puts Python2.2 at /usr/local/bin/python2.2. Give that location in the Mailman configuration. My config statement was: ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python2.2 --with-cgi-gid=apache My full information on the install OUTSIDE the chrooted environment on Ensim 3.0 is at http://forums.ev1servers.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23118 . Farther down there is also a way to do it inside the chrooted. <>< Paul

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman drops extension of attachment
by gagel＠cnc.bc.ca 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

I tried searching the archives but found nothing about it. I guess my search terms were not good enough. It is not a problem with the mail client. I did debug tracing on the clients to see what was being passed before I submitted a bug report. The client identifies the attachment correctly as a pdf. The problem is that the length of the attachment name seems to be to long for mailman to process correctly. Sending an attachment called: "PRESIDENT'S NEWSLETTER NO. 2 - 2003-2004 ACADEMIC December.pdf" Results in one called: "PRESIDENT'S NEWSLETTER NO. 2 - 2003-2004 ACADEMIC" The recieving client can still open the missnamed attachment if they know what to select as a program to open it with. Its just that the extension is missing and that only happens after going through mailman. It does not happen if it is sent directly to a user. ----- Original Message Follows ----- > This *exact* problem was discussed in the archives awhile back. If > memory serves me correctly the problem then was that the email > client used a generic type of mime file type identifier rather than > a more proper one that identified the file type properly as pdf. > > Mailman then treats this as a generic file and renames it with a > generic extension. A patch was generated so that Mailman no longer > changed the file extension. A look in the archives might prove > useful to you. > > Jon Carnes > > On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 16:57, gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca wrote: > > I have not had any response on this. Does anyone have any info > > they can share with me on it? > > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > We just sent out a message to our employees. There calling > > > because they can't open the pdf attachment. > > > > > > Looking at it, it looks like the .pdf part is missing from the > > > attachment name in the message. If you know what to do you can > > > open the attachment. But the browser does not know what to do > > > with it and most of our users don't either. > > > > > > Is there a fix for this? > > > > > > Suggestions, ideas? > > > > > > ==================== > > > Kevin W. Gagel > > > Network Administrator > > > (250) 561-5848 local 448 > > > (250) 562-2131 local 448 > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca > > > Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > > Searchable Archives: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > > > This message was sent to: gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/gagel%40cnc.bc.ca > > > > ==================== > > Kevin W. Gagel > > Network Administrator > > (250) 561-5848 local 448 > > (250) 562-2131 local 448 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca > > Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > Searchable Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: jonc(a)nc.rr.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > ==================== Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -------------------------------------------------------------- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. --------------------------------------------------------------

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Mailman + Postfix & MySQL
by Jamie Penman-Smithson 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Hey all, Has anyone had any luck with setting up Mailman together with Postfix using MySQL? If you could point me in the general direction of any good HOWTOs etc. on the subject, I'd be eternally grateful. I've tried googling, and it turned up a lot of questions, and not many answers... Thanks in advance, Jamie --- -jamie <jamie(a)silverdream.org> w: http://silverdream.org | p: sms(a)silverdream.org Support The Blue Ribbon Campaign - http://eff.org/br

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RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman drops extension of attachment
by gagel＠cnc.bc.ca 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

See below... ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mailman-users-bounces+psolomon=adelphia.net(a)python.org > > [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+psolomon=adelphia.net@python.org > > ] On Behalf Of gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca > > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:10 PM > > To: mailman-users(a)python.org > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman drops extension of attachment > > > > > > I tried searching the archives but found nothing about it. I guess > > my search terms were not good enough. > > > > It is not a problem with the mail client. I did debug tracing on > > the clients to see what was being passed before I submitted a bug > > report. The client identifies the attachment correctly as a pdf. > > The problem is that the length of the attachment name seems to be > > to long for mailman to process correctly. > > > > Sending an attachment called: > > "PRESIDENT'S NEWSLETTER NO. 2 - 2003-2004 ACADEMIC December.pdf" > > Results in one called: > > "PRESIDENT'S NEWSLETTER NO. 2 - 2003-2004 ACADEMIC" > > > > The recieving client can still open the missnamed attachment if > > they know what to select as a program to open it with. Its just > > that the extension is missing and that only happens after going > > through mailman. It does not happen if it is sent directly to a > > user. > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > This *exact* problem was discussed in the archives awhile back. > > > If memory serves me correctly the problem then was that the > > > email client used a generic type of mime file type identifier > > > rather than a more proper one that identified the file type > > > properly as pdf. > > > Mailman then treats this as a generic file and renames it with a > > > generic extension. A patch was generated so that Mailman no > > > longer changed the file extension. A look in the archives might > > > prove useful to you. > > > > > > Jon Carnes > > > > > > On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 16:57, gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca wrote: > > > > I have not had any response on this. Does anyone have any info > > > > they can share with me on it? > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > > > We just sent out a message to our employees. There calling > > > > > because they can't open the pdf attachment. > > > > > > > > > > Looking at it, it looks like the .pdf part is missing from > > > > > the attachment name in the message. If you know what to do > > > > > you can open the attachment. But the browser does not know > > > > > what to do with it and most of our users don't either. > > > > > > > > > > Is there a fix for this? > > > > > > > > > > Suggestions, ideas? > > > > > > > > > > ==================== > > > > > Kevin W. Gagel > > > > > Network Administrator > > > > > (250) 561-5848 local 448 > > > > > (250) 562-2131 local 448 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- The > > > > > College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca > > > > > Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > > > > Searchable Archives: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > > > > > > > This message was sent to: gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca > > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/gagel%40cnc.bc.ca > > > > > > > > ==================== > > > > Kevin W. Gagel > > > > Network Administrator > > > > (250) 561-5848 local 448 > > > > (250) 562-2131 local 448 > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca > > > > Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Mailman-Users mailing list > > > > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > > > > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > > > > Searchable Archives: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > > > This message was sent to: jonc(a)nc.rr.com > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > > > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/jonc%40nc.rr.com > > > > > Follow the thread [Mailman-Users] Attachments - PDF Issue in the Nov > 2003 archive and see if this is any help. > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-November/032634.html Read through the thread. No it didn't help. I change the filebase, ignore to filebase, ext like the thread indicated but I still end up with the same thing. The problem is the mailman handles the file name and the fact that users are using long file names. Its not a problem with the extention as I thought. Mailman drops the last part of the file name off, so a file name like this: PRESIDENT'S NEWSLETTER NO. 2 - 2003-2004 ACADEMIC December.pdf Becomes a file name like this: PRESIDENT'S NEWSLETTER NO. 2 - 2003-2004 ACADEMIC So the December.pdf part is lost. I've verified it is not a MUA problem by running tests in debug mode and checking what got sent to Mailman. It is in the attachment handling routine of mailman that the problem exists. ==================== Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -------------------------------------------------------------- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. --------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 15, Issue 52
by Sunnsand 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

----- Original Message ----- From: <mailman-users-request(a)python.org> To: <mailman-users(a)python.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:12 AM Subject: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 15, Issue 52 > Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to > mailman-users(a)python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mailman-users-request(a)python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mailman-users-owner(a)python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..." > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: admindb cgi functions don't work. (Chris Johnson) > 2. Re: admindb cgi functions don't work. (Jon Carnes) > 3. Re: admindb cgi functions don't work. (Simon White) > 4. Re: admindb cgi functions don't work. (Chris Johnson) > 5. Mailman + Postfix + Maildrop ... (sama(a)inf.ufsc.br) > 6. Mailman drops extension of attachment (gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca) > 7. Re: Shell meta-characters (gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca) > 8. Re: Mailman drops extension of attachment (Jon Carnes) > 9. Re: Shell meta-characters (Jon Carnes) > 10. Xmail+Mailman (jsmith) > 11. simple newsletter (S?bastien CONNAC) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/

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how to configure mailman to use a specific python?
by Ben 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

We have an old version of python installed which is heavily used by the Ensim, so I need to compile the up-to-date version to an isolated place and assign mailman to use this installation. Can someone tell me how to do the configuration for mailman before installation. Thanks. Ben

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help!
by John Bostrom 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

I desperately and immediately need the capability to send email to a database of about 3000 people, all of whom are true subscribers to our list. We're a small office running Windows XP, with no network or server beyond minimal disk space on a subscribed ISP server. I'm basically a former database programmer turned web developer, and though I'm a good programmer and a quick study, I have almost no php, perl, or other relevant mail list coding experience. I've studied phplist and mailman and mailman looks slightly less daunting, but I have to be able to install the package and get it running in the next two days. Above all, I need something that can work with directly with our existing Access donor database, using the existing name and email fields, easily and smoothly converting, importing, and updating, so I don't wind up having to spend a lot of time sorting out duplications and errors between the database and the mailing list. Can someone please help me with this? JB

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Shell meta-characters
by gagel＠cnc.bc.ca 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

The question is simple enough, so I ask it again. Is the sendmail interface safe from addresses that contain shell meta-characters? I an unable to determine from the long list of messages or doing a search in the archives whether or not the problem had been corrected. The mailman code warns not to use the sendmail but use the smtp method because sendmail is not secure. postfix users are warning me that mailman can lead to a compromise if a meta-character is used in the address. postfix users are also saying this should have been fixed by now in mailman but I'd like some confirmation. Anyone familiar with the code care to answer this? ----- Original Message Follows ----- > On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 16:58, gagel(a)cnc.bc.ca wrote: > > I have not had any response to this. Can anyone speak to this at > > all? > > > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > > Can someone tell me if the mailman 2.1.3 sendmail interface is > > > safe from addresses that contain shell meta-characters? > > > > > Cast a stone into the water > Observe the ripples as they flow forth > What does this tell you > > Time passes and you move on > Yet the ripples remain > messages from a stone now gone > > A wise man follows > seeing not only the ripples > but the stone that lies beneath the waves > > How long do you remark upon the ripples > before you see the stone? > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > <I have never had problems with shell meta-characters and Mailman - > this too is found in the archives, should you wish to converse with > the past> > > Jon Carnes > ==================== Kevin W. Gagel Network Administrator (250) 561-5848 local 448 (250) 562-2131 local 448 -------------------------------------------------------------- The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca Virus scanning is done on all incoming and outgoing email. --------------------------------------------------------------

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Mailing List Problem
by Keith L. Hyman 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

There is an email address on our mailing list that is receiving our messages. They do not wish to be on the list. The address do not appear anywhere within the list. can you offer any suggestions as to how we can stop this address from receiving our messages? Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Keith L. Hyman Founder National Association of Black Bikers 1.866.NABB.ORG, ext. 89 www.NABBweb.org

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Customized Content/Waive Confirmation emails
by Adam Hess 23 Dec '03

23 Dec '03

Hello, I'm a new user of Mailman (Ver 2.1.2) and after an exhaustive search of the options and what's on your site I can't figure out how to customize the content of subscription emails. In other words, I'd like to change all of the text that gets sent to a subscriber and it seems I can only append text to that email? Secondly, is there a way to remove the use of a confirmation email? Our list is not a discussion based one, it is merely for perioidic announcements. We haven't launched our email list yet but plan to in the new year. Feel free to visit our website to find out about Volunary Service Overseas (Don't know if you've heard of us before). Thanks again, Adam Hess Coordinator, Marketing and Communications VSO Canada www.vsocan.org (613) 234-1364 ext. 244 (613) 234-1444 (Fax) 1-888-876-2911 adam(a)vsocan.org

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