Mailman 3 February 2003 - Mailman-Users

What is python doing?
by Gareth Hopkins 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Howdie, What is the python process doing here? Just got 5 messages in the space of about 10 seconds to the same list on the machine. The list has about 15 recipients all in the same domain. A top shows last pid: 24442; load averages: 0.99, 0.87, 0.73 up 9+22:18:18 15:19:30 91 processes: 2 running, 89 sleeping CPU states: 97.7% user, 0.0% nice, 2.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 100M Active, 85M Inact, 43M Wired, 10M Cache, 35M Buf, 11M Free Swap: 512M Total, 96K Used, 512M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 24306 mailman 61 0 30280K 29444K RUN 9:00 97.61% 97.61% python2.2 24442 root 29 0 2024K 1076K RUN 0:00 15.00% 0.73% top --- Gareth Hopkins Server Operations UUNET South Africa (o) +27.21.658.8700 (f) +27.21.658.8552 (m) +27.82.929.6668 http://www.uunet.co.za 08600 UUNET (08600 88638) "The contents of this e-mail and any accompanying documentation is confidential and any use thereof, in whatever form, by anyone other than the addressee for whom it is intended, is strictly prohibited."

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Outlook issue? (was Disabling VERP)
by Richard Barrett 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

This looks as though there may be a compatibility problem between mail coming from Mailman and way the Outlook MUA displays it that is worse with MM 2.1 than with MM 2.0.x. Anyone out there with experience of Microsoft products that can explain what's described below and how to correct it? > > Tom > > > > I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by > > VERP'ed address. > >Evidently, you are correct. :-/ > >So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains unresolved. In a >nutshell, here's what I'm observing: > >Prior to my "upgrade" (oh, bitter irony!) to Mailman 2.1, mail sent via a >list had the following characteristics: > >From: User Name [user(a)domain.com] >To: <listname(a)domain.com> >Reply-To: <list|user> depending on list setting > >Now, the mail looks like: > >From: listname-bounces(a)domain.com on behalf of User Name [user(a)domain.com] >To: <listname(a)domain.com> >Reply-To: <null> > >Additionally, sometimes Outlook will insert the "short description" of the >list into the To: field when replying, but I'm willing to believe that's a >bug in Outlook. > >My users don't like the new From: format, and I am trying to get it back to >the way it was, which seems like such a small and simple thing to do but >evidently is not. Also, getting rid of the text attachments in Outlook when >the footer has a different character set than the message body (also due to >a new "feature" introduced in 2.1) would be delightful. > >Thanks for your time and patience, > >Tom

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Assistance with umbrella lists
by Andrew Kemp 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Greetings, Our organisation is migrating to Mailman from various aliases and majordomo lists. In an effort to ease management, I would like to set up lists for each office and an overall list (umbrella list) to include all the office lists. This will allow HR to easily mail the entire company. I have been reading the FAQ etc on umbrella lists and have created some test lists which work fine. In the umbrella list I have included the sub-lists as members and have also set the umbrella list to send password reminders to '-owner'. However, when I try to post to the umbrella list my message is rejected to the owner of the list due to not being a member. How can I allow all staff to post to the umbrella list without having to subscribe them individually ? I would have assumed that the umbrella list would have automatically included all the sub-list members ? Thanks. Andrew

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removing a strange email address
by alex wetmore 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

One of my users subscribed with the address mailto:user@domain.com when I was running 2.0.13. Now I'm running 2.1 and he wants to unsubscribe. 2.1 won't allow him to change his settings, and when I use remove_members it reports that user(a)domain.com isn't a subscriber. How can I remove this user from the list? thanks, alex

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[Mailman-Users] "No mailman user found" error when building Mailman 2.1
by Steve Rifkin 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Having problems installing mailman 2.1 on a Solaris 8 Ultra 10 machine using GCC 3.2.1 and python 2.2.2 I'm installing as mailman, and the configure dies with (see more below): mailman> ./configure --prefix=/users/mailman --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python --with-cgi-gid=65534 --with-mail-gid=1 creating cache ./config.cache checking for --with-python... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python interpreter... /usr/local/bin/python checking Python version... 2.2.2 checking that Python has a working distutils... yes checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/local/bin/install -c checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for true... /usr/local/bin/true checking for --without-gcc... no checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking whether #! works in shell scripts... yes checking for --with-var-prefix... no checking for --with-permcheck... yes checking for --with-username... mailman checking for user name "mailman"... Traceback (most recent call last): File "conftest.py", line 1, in ? import pwd ImportError: No module named pwd cat: conftest.out: No such file or directory configure: error: ***** No "mailman" user found! ***** Your system must have a "mailman" user defined ***** (usually in your /etc/passwd file). Please see the INSTALL ***** file for details. ======================================================== As you can see below, mailman DOES exist (I'm logged in as mailman). mailman> grep mailman /etc/passwd mailman:x:10:44:mailadm LOCAL:/users/mailman:/bin/csh mailman> whoami How can I get past this error? Is it a python error? If so, what would you suggest I do get the build to find the correct pwd module? Thanks! Steve Rifkin steve410(a)cs.jhu.edu

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master-qrunner.pid
by VLists.Net Support 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

We've had several instances lately where Mailman 2.1 just dies silently and no more mail goes out. I've resorted to putting a cron job in that restarts mailmanctl but when that happens I get the following returned... Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner PID unreadable in: /usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/home/circle/usr/local/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' Is qrunner even running? Sure enough, the pid file is missing, and the restart has no effect. I have to actually stop mailmanctl and then start it. Not a restart, but a stop/start process. Then everything in the qfiles/in gets processed and it goes on its way again for a few hours until it dies. I'm running Python 2.1.3 and Mailman 2.1 Final on FreeBSD 4.4 Any ideas?

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confirmation-mail can't be send
by Daniel Schönland 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hello, I am new to the list, so if I'm asking something stupid, slap me in my back. =) Today I installed mailman on my Debian (Sendmail 8.12.) using apt-get. Everything went well. Then I created a list and configured the aliases file like said by mailman. Again, everything great until I startet to create a test-member and tried to confirm the confirmation-mail. I always receive an error:  The original message was received at Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:24:07 +0100 from webmail.xxx.xx [62.27.xx.xx] (may be forged) ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd support_dk" (reason: Service unavailable) (expanded from: <support_dk-request@xxx>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- smrsh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs (stat failed) 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Reporting-MTA: dns; xxx Received-From-MTA: DNS; webmail.xxx.xx Arrival-Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:24:07 +0100 Final-Recipient: RFC822; support_dk-request@xxx X-Actual-Recipient: X-Unix; |/var/lib/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd support_dk Action: failed Status: 5.5.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 69 Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:24:07 +0100  What went wrong? Kind Regards, - Daniel -- Daniel Schoenland Mobil +49 170 41 92 7 29 Henrietten Weg 8 20259 Hamburg

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How to change 'from' address for admin messages
by Harwood, AS (Andrew) 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

I am having difficulty working out how I can change the 'from' address that mailman admin messages come from. I have set up mailman on our machine tornado.badc.rl.ac.uk. I would prefer that mail appears to come from 'ncas.nerc.ac.uk', which is a valid alias for this machine. How do I do this? I have tried setting 'Host name this list prefers for email', but this does not appear to make any difference. What determines which host the messages appear to come from? Thanks. Andrew Harwood Infrastructure Manager BADC, Rutherford Appleton Laboratory

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest message header filtering
by Tokio Kikuchi 06 Feb '03

06 Feb '03

Hi, Kenneth Bruyninckx wrote: > Hello, > > I followed your advice and added the line to mm_cfg.py in mailman/Mailman > I must say that I received an error when adding this line, but after I > removed the underscore from (_('English... it was accepted. Ah, _() should have been escaped. Try this. def _(s): return s LC_DESCRIPTIONS['en'] = (_('English (USA)'), 'iso-8859-1') > > But, my digest still does not show the charset info. > What could I have done wrong ? Did you restart mailman qrunner by bin/mailmanctl restart ? > > > > > kind regards, > > Kenneth. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tokio Kikuchi" <tkikuchi(a)is.kochi-u.ac.jp> > To: <kenneth(a)drosera.be> > Cc: <Mailman-Users(a)python.org> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest message header filtering > > > >>Hi, >> >>I am Cc-ing this reply to the list. >>You can always change your preferred charset by adding following >>lines in your mm_cfg.py. >> >>LC_DESCRIPTIONS['en'] = (_('English (USA)'), 'iso-8859-1') >> >>This is useful if your list's main language is English but >>majority of users are from Latin-1 countries. Plain text >>digest will go out with latin characters un-replaced, I believe. >> >>kenneth(a)drosera.be wrote: >> >>>Hello, >>> >>>I just read your reply to a question on the mail-users list concerning >> > the > >>>extra headers. >>>What updates/patches are available in the CVS directory ? I quickly had >> > a look > >>>but was unable to find much and even less that I understood. >>>But ok, I will also upgrade to the latest CVS on a test machine first. >>> >>>Since your name pops up several times on the list I am contacting you >> > directly > >>>for a question of mine that remained unanswered. >>>How did you tackle the character-encoding problem of "us-ascii" for >> > digests ? > >>>Where do I have to make changes ? >>> >>>For your information I run MM2.1 + qmail + demime. >>>I know mails using "iso-8859-1" pass demime with flying colours, but >> > once they > >>>end up in a digest (which is us-ascii :-( ) all non-us-ascii characters >>>get "transformed". >>> >>> >>>kind regards, >>> >>>Kenneth Bruyninckx. >>> >>> -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/

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Can't admin pending messages
by Marc Perkel 05 Feb '03

05 Feb '03

I think it was working and quit. I upgraded to Mailman 2.1 and I can't admin pending messages. It shows the pending messages with the choices - but if I select to approve, reject, or discard - nothing happens after I click submit. The same messages are still there and still pending. What am I doing wrong?

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