Mailman 3 March 2003 - Mailman-Users

web admin help
by ben strawbridge March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

Hello, I have set up a mailman server on redhat 7.3. It sends messages, it signs people up, the web interface all works, pipermail works... but when I go to the administrative interface I try to log in with either the list admin password or the global admin password I always get "Authentication Failed" message in red letters on the web page. I followed the instructions for the RHL install of Mailman, it was already installed by my host, and can't find anything that I skipped. I look in the … [View More]

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I want to upgrade from 1.1 to 2.1.1 -- am I doomed?
by Ben Ostrowsky March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

We've got about 20 lists, some of which have hundreds of subscribers, but it's time to upgrade to 2.1.1. (We're planning to install Mailman 2.1.1 on a new server.) Am I doomed? Our usual Linux consultant is stumped. Suggestions welcomed. Ben

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documentation pages
by Jessie Kleefstra March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

>From the URL below, I tried to access Chris Kolar's User documentation but I am getting a 'cannot display page error' on both links. Is there a problem. I have links from our Mailman pages to this documentation. http://www.list.org/users.html User Documentation Chris Kolar has made available a Mailman user guide for end-users interacting with a Mailman system. -- ********************************* Jessie Kleefstra Email:kleefstr@mcmaster.ca Sr.… [View More]

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customising the options page - templated?
by Paul Mansfield March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

I hope I'm not bringing up a common problem, but here goes... running mm2.1 on debian3.0 I want to customise the page http://x/mailman/options/mylist this page appears to be produced by /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/options.py - and I'm not a python expert (too lazy to become one?), so I can't tell if the page is produced using at least some templating. thanks for any suggestions Paul

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RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost..
by Sullivan, John March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

Well most things seem to be working. The only thing I cant get to work at this point is emails. I can send emails from the machine. New subscribers can sign up and they get an email confirmation But when they reply to the confirmation. The email seems to get lost - Also - The subscribers that I have signed up manually through the Web Based form do not got emails if I send an email to the list. Do you think 2.1 will solve any of these problems for me or is there something I should look … [View More]into. I have this box behind a firewall - I have opened the smtp port and www port for this box on the firewall as well. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:37 AM To: Sullivan, John; mailman-users(a)python.org Cc: 'John DeCarlo' Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:24:49 -0500 "Sullivan, John" <jsullivan(a)mlsnet.com> wrote: > Aah that might explain it > > 2.0 I am running. Bingo. You might want to migrate, it's an easy migration. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:31 AM > To: Sullivan, John; mailman-users(a)python.org > Cc: 'John DeCarlo' > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. > > Is this 2.0 vs. 2.1? > > mailmanctl is NEW in 2.1. > > LER > > > --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:20:22 -0500 "Sullivan, John" > <jsullivan(a)mlsnet.com> wrote: > >> Typing error in the last email- I meant mailmanctl - Forgive me.. >> >> Below is the contents of my bin dir: >> >> Also my scripts dir does not have a script called mailman - >> >> [root@localhost Mailman]# mailmanctl start >> bash: mailmanctl: command not found >> [root@localhost Mailman]# cd .. >> [root@localhost mailman]# ls >> archives bin cgi-bin cron data filters lists locks mail Mailman >> scripts spam templates >> [root@localhost mailman]# cd bin >> [root@localhost bin]# ls -al >> total 152 >> drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 4096 Mar 25 11:35 . >> drwxrwsr-x 15 root mailman 4096 Mar 25 11:35 .. >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6620 Aug 15 2002 add_members >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3838 Aug 15 2002 arch >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2462 Aug 15 2002 check_db >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8964 Aug 15 2002 check_perms >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 7123 Aug 15 2002 clone_member >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8090 Aug 15 2002 config_list >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 4474 Aug 15 2002 digest_arch >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 1282 Aug 15 2002 dumpdb >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 4915 Aug 15 2002 find_member >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2957 Aug 15 2002 list_lists >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3519 Aug 15 2002 list_members >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2386 Aug 15 2002 mmsitepass >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2440 Aug 15 2002 move_list >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6983 Aug 15 2002 newlist >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 1530 Aug 15 2002 paths.py >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 315 Aug 15 2002 paths.pyc >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3051 Aug 15 2002 remove_members >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2952 Aug 15 2002 rmlist >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8234 Aug 15 2002 sync_members >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 12809 Aug 15 2002 update >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 925 Aug 15 2002 version >> -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6245 Aug 15 2002 withlist >> [root@localhost bin]# find . -name mailmanctl >> [root@localhost bin]# >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:17 AM >> To: Sullivan, John; mailman-users(a)python.org >> Cc: 'John DeCarlo' >> Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. >> >> >> >> --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:04:09 -0500 "Sullivan, John" >> <jsullivan(a)mlsnet.com> wrote: >> >>> I just did a search from root for mailmancnl and it came back with >>> nothing. I would guess if the file is not there it wouldn't start on >>> bootup regardless? >> mailmanctl is what you are looking for, and it's in $MAILMANHOME/bin >> >> >>> >>> I just downloaded and searched a new TAR for the file and mailmancnl is >>> not in there either. >>> >>> >>> Your help is appreciated. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] >>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:03 AM >>> To: Sullivan, John >>> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. >>> >>> John, >>> >>> Well, what about {mailmandir}/scripts/mailman? If you read the comments >>> it tells you how to install it in the right place and get Red Hat to >>> start it at boot time. >>> >>> Sullivan, John wrote: >>>> No it's not in there either.. >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] >>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:47 AM >>>> To: Sullivan, John >>>> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. >>>> >>>> John, >>>> >>>> As I recall, you did an RPM install when you installed Red Hat. >>>> >>>> Do you have /etc/init.d/mailman? That will work to start Mailman. >>>> >>>> Sullivan, John wrote: >>>> >>>>> I got the /var/mailman dir and from command line type bin/mailmanctl >>>>> start and it tells me not such file or directory.. >>>>> >>>>> I've also did a search for that file and cannot find it. >>>>> >>>>> When I do a ps -e I do not see it running. >>>>> >>>>> Any help? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> John DeCarlo, The MITRE Corporation, My Views Are My Own >>> email: jdecarlo(a)mitre.org >>> voice: 703-883-7116 >>> fax: 703-883-3383 >>> DISA cube: 703-882-0593 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>> Mailman-Users mailing list >>> Mailman-Users(a)python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >>> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >>> Searchable Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >>> >>> This message was sent to: ler(a)lerctr.org >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ler%40lerctr.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler >> Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org >> US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 >> > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 [View Less]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost..
by Sullivan, John March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

Aah that might explain it 2.0 I am running. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:31 AM To: Sullivan, John; mailman-users(a)python.org Cc: 'John DeCarlo' Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. Is this 2.0 vs. 2.1? mailmanctl is NEW in 2.1. LER --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:20:22 -0500 "Sullivan, John" <jsullivan(a)mlsnet.com> wrote: > Typing error in the last email- I meant mailmanctl - Forgive me.. … [View More]> > Below is the contents of my bin dir: > > Also my scripts dir does not have a script called mailman - > > [root@localhost Mailman]# mailmanctl start > bash: mailmanctl: command not found > [root@localhost Mailman]# cd .. > [root@localhost mailman]# ls > archives bin cgi-bin cron data filters lists locks mail Mailman > scripts spam templates > [root@localhost mailman]# cd bin > [root@localhost bin]# ls -al > total 152 > drwxrwsr-x 2 root mailman 4096 Mar 25 11:35 . > drwxrwsr-x 15 root mailman 4096 Mar 25 11:35 .. > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6620 Aug 15 2002 add_members > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3838 Aug 15 2002 arch > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2462 Aug 15 2002 check_db > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8964 Aug 15 2002 check_perms > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 7123 Aug 15 2002 clone_member > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8090 Aug 15 2002 config_list > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 4474 Aug 15 2002 digest_arch > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 1282 Aug 15 2002 dumpdb > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 4915 Aug 15 2002 find_member > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2957 Aug 15 2002 list_lists > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3519 Aug 15 2002 list_members > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2386 Aug 15 2002 mmsitepass > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2440 Aug 15 2002 move_list > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6983 Aug 15 2002 newlist > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 1530 Aug 15 2002 paths.py > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 315 Aug 15 2002 paths.pyc > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3051 Aug 15 2002 remove_members > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2952 Aug 15 2002 rmlist > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8234 Aug 15 2002 sync_members > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 12809 Aug 15 2002 update > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 925 Aug 15 2002 version > -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6245 Aug 15 2002 withlist > [root@localhost bin]# find . -name mailmanctl > [root@localhost bin]# > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:17 AM > To: Sullivan, John; mailman-users(a)python.org > Cc: 'John DeCarlo' > Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. > > > > --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:04:09 -0500 "Sullivan, John" > <jsullivan(a)mlsnet.com> wrote: > >> I just did a search from root for mailmancnl and it came back with >> nothing. I would guess if the file is not there it wouldn't start on >> bootup regardless? > mailmanctl is what you are looking for, and it's in $MAILMANHOME/bin > > >> >> I just downloaded and searched a new TAR for the file and mailmancnl is >> not in there either. >> >> >> Your help is appreciated. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:03 AM >> To: Sullivan, John >> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. >> >> John, >> >> Well, what about {mailmandir}/scripts/mailman? If you read the comments >> it tells you how to install it in the right place and get Red Hat to >> start it at boot time. >> >> Sullivan, John wrote: >>> No it's not in there either.. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] >>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:47 AM >>> To: Sullivan, John >>> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. >>> >>> John, >>> >>> As I recall, you did an RPM install when you installed Red Hat. >>> >>> Do you have /etc/init.d/mailman? That will work to start Mailman. >>> >>> Sullivan, John wrote: >>> >>>> I got the /var/mailman dir and from command line type bin/mailmanctl >>>> start and it tells me not such file or directory.. >>>> >>>> I've also did a search for that file and cannot find it. >>>> >>>> When I do a ps -e I do not see it running. >>>> >>>> Any help? >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> John DeCarlo, The MITRE Corporation, My Views Are My Own >> email: jdecarlo(a)mitre.org >> voice: 703-883-7116 >> fax: 703-883-3383 >> DISA cube: 703-882-0593 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> Mailman-Users mailing list >> Mailman-Users(a)python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >> Searchable Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >> >> This message was sent to: ler(a)lerctr.org >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ler%40lerctr.org >> > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 [View Less]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost..
by Sullivan, John March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

Typing error in the last email- I meant mailmanctl - Forgive me.. Below is the contents of my bin dir: Also my scripts dir does not have a script called mailman - [root@localhost Mailman]# mailmanctl start bash: mailmanctl: command not found [root@localhost Mailman]# cd .. [root@localhost mailman]# ls archives bin cgi-bin cron data filters lists locks mail Mailman scripts spam templates [root@localhost mailman]# cd bin [root@localhost bin]# ls -al total 152 drwxrwsr-x 2 root … [View More] mailman 4096 Mar 25 11:35 . drwxrwsr-x 15 root mailman 4096 Mar 25 11:35 .. -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6620 Aug 15 2002 add_members -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3838 Aug 15 2002 arch -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2462 Aug 15 2002 check_db -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8964 Aug 15 2002 check_perms -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 7123 Aug 15 2002 clone_member -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8090 Aug 15 2002 config_list -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 4474 Aug 15 2002 digest_arch -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 1282 Aug 15 2002 dumpdb -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 4915 Aug 15 2002 find_member -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2957 Aug 15 2002 list_lists -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3519 Aug 15 2002 list_members -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2386 Aug 15 2002 mmsitepass -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2440 Aug 15 2002 move_list -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6983 Aug 15 2002 newlist -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 1530 Aug 15 2002 paths.py -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 315 Aug 15 2002 paths.pyc -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 3051 Aug 15 2002 remove_members -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 2952 Aug 15 2002 rmlist -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 8234 Aug 15 2002 sync_members -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 12809 Aug 15 2002 update -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 925 Aug 15 2002 version -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman 6245 Aug 15 2002 withlist [root@localhost bin]# find . -name mailmanctl [root@localhost bin]# -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:17 AM To: Sullivan, John; mailman-users(a)python.org Cc: 'John DeCarlo' Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. --On Friday, March 28, 2003 10:04:09 -0500 "Sullivan, John" <jsullivan(a)mlsnet.com> wrote: > I just did a search from root for mailmancnl and it came back with > nothing. I would guess if the file is not there it wouldn't start on > bootup regardless? mailmanctl is what you are looking for, and it's in $MAILMANHOME/bin > > I just downloaded and searched a new TAR for the file and mailmancnl is > not in there either. > > > Your help is appreciated. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:03 AM > To: Sullivan, John > Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. > > John, > > Well, what about {mailmandir}/scripts/mailman? If you read the comments > it tells you how to install it in the right place and get Red Hat to > start it at boot time. > > Sullivan, John wrote: >> No it's not in there either.. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:47 AM >> To: Sullivan, John >> Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org >> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. >> >> John, >> >> As I recall, you did an RPM install when you installed Red Hat. >> >> Do you have /etc/init.d/mailman? That will work to start Mailman. >> >> Sullivan, John wrote: >> >>> I got the /var/mailman dir and from command line type bin/mailmanctl >>> start and it tells me not such file or directory.. >>> >>> I've also did a search for that file and cannot find it. >>> >>> When I do a ps -e I do not see it running. >>> >>> Any help? >> >> >> > > -- > > John DeCarlo, The MITRE Corporation, My Views Are My Own > email: jdecarlo(a)mitre.org > voice: 703-883-7116 > fax: 703-883-3383 > DISA cube: 703-882-0593 > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: ler(a)lerctr.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ler%40lerctr.org > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 [View Less]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost..
by Sullivan, John March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

I just did a search from root for mailmancnl and it came back with nothing. I would guess if the file is not there it wouldn't start on bootup regardless? I just downloaded and searched a new TAR for the file and mailmancnl is not in there either. Your help is appreciated. -----Original Message----- From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:03 AM To: Sullivan, John Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. John, … [View More]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost..
by Sullivan, John March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

No it's not in there either.. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: John DeCarlo [mailto:jdecarlo@mitre.org] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:47 AM To: Sullivan, John Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. John, As I recall, you did an RPM install when you installed Red Hat. Do you have /etc/init.d/mailman? That will work to start Mailman. Sullivan, John wrote: > I got the /var/mailman dir and from command line type bin/mailmanctl start … [View More]

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RE: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost..
by Sullivan, John March 28, 2003

March 28, 2003

I got the /var/mailman dir and from command line type bin/mailmanctl start and it tells me not such file or directory.. I've also did a search for that file and cannot find it. When I do a ps -e I do not see it running. Any help? -----Original Message-----in From: ghhalley [mailto:ghhalley@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:29 PM To: Sullivan, John Cc: mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] email getting lost.. Howdy John Is mailmanctl operating? Do you … [View More]

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