Mailman 3 May 2003 - Mailman-Users

RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman cron error
by Adam Lipson May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

the settings are the same for each list in the mailman web interface. "Internet address" is the fqdn for the machine and "name of Usenet group to gateway to and/or from" is the name of the list created using the ctlinnd newgroup command. I guess I must have missed something??? The list is showing up in the news group view like the other list. The other odd bit and perhaps this is the problem is that mailman is taking a minute or two to post each posting. Since I installed the RPM version of mailman I don't know the password for mailman to view its crontab. If I su - mailman and crontab -l it says no crontab for root, but should this not report the crontab for mailman not root? Adam -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:11 PM To: Adam Lipson; mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman cron error --On Thursday, May 29, 2003 16:09:05 -0400 Adam Lipson <adaml(a)jbase.com> wrote: > I was afraid of that. It works for one list but not the other. I can't > find a setting to allow it for one list and not the other. Know where it > is? Check the settings for EACH list's news server. It looks like it's just not there, fwiw, since it's connection refused, and not a INN error. LER > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:08 PM > To: Adam Lipson; mailman-users(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman cron error > > > Yeah, your INN server isn't running or accepting connections. > > LER > > > --On Thursday, May 29, 2003 16:04:36 -0400 Adam Lipson <adaml(a)jbase.com> > wrote: > >> Anyone seen this error before? I had mailman working with INN and then >> it stopped working. I don't think I changed anything and now it is >> working intermittently. >> >> Thanks, >> Adam >> >> Subject: Cron <mailman@listserver> /usr/bin/python -S >> /var/mailman/cron/gate_news >> >> Traceback (innermost last): >> File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 222, in ? >> main() >> File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 203, in main >> process_lists(lock) >> File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 148, in process_lists >> conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist) >> File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 75, in open_newsgroup >> password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD) >> File "/var/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 111, in __init__ >> self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port)) >> socket.error: (111, 'Connection refused') >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> Mailman-Users mailing list >> Mailman-Users(a)python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users >> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py >> Searchable Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ >> >> This message was sent to: ler(a)lerctr.org >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ler%40lerctr.org >> > > > > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 > > > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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RE: [Mailman-Users] mailman cron error
by Adam Lipson May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

I was afraid of that. It works for one list but not the other. I can't find a setting to allow it for one list and not the other. Know where it is? -----Original Message----- From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler@lerctr.org] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:08 PM To: Adam Lipson; mailman-users(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman cron error Yeah, your INN server isn't running or accepting connections. LER --On Thursday, May 29, 2003 16:04:36 -0400 Adam Lipson <adaml(a)jbase.com> wrote: > Anyone seen this error before? I had mailman working with INN and then > it stopped working. I don't think I changed anything and now it is > working intermittently. > > Thanks, > Adam > > Subject: Cron <mailman@listserver> /usr/bin/python -S > /var/mailman/cron/gate_news > > Traceback (innermost last): > File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 222, in ? > main() > File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 203, in main > process_lists(lock) > File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 148, in process_lists > conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist) > File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 75, in open_newsgroup > password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD) > File "/var/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 111, in __init__ > self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port)) > socket.error: (111, 'Connection refused') > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > Mailman-Users(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > > This message was sent to: ler(a)lerctr.org > Unsubscribe or change your options at > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/ler%40lerctr.org > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler(a)lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749

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mailman cron error
by Adam Lipson May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

Anyone seen this error before? I had mailman working with INN and then it stopped working. I don't think I changed anything and now it is working intermittently. Thanks, Adam Subject: Cron <mailman@listserver> /usr/bin/python -S /var/mailman/cron/gate_news Traceback (innermost last): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 222, in ? main() File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 203, in main process_lists(lock) File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 148, in process_lists conn, first, last = open_newsgroup(mlist) File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 75, in open_newsgroup password=mm_cfg.NNTP_PASSWORD) File "/var/mailman/Mailman/pythonlib/nntplib.py", line 111, in __init__ self.sock.connect((self.host, self.port)) socket.error: (111, 'Connection refused')

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive link only gives /pipermail/
by Fran Lawas-Grodek May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

Hello, I am also experiencing the same problem that Chris reported on May 6, 2003: "I've upgraded my old 2.0.13 list to 2.1.1 from Debin/testing. All is working fine except that the link to the archives is just "/pipermail/". Shouldn't this be "/pipermail/list/"? " In my case, I've just upgraded from 2.0.8 to 2.1.2. It appears that <MM-Archive><MM-List-Name> in the listinfo template is not resolving the list name on the line where the http link is defined -- it resolves to just "/pipermail/". I have too many lists to go ahead and hard-code each General list info page -- something is not quite right. Any thoughts? I'd greatly appreciate it. Please be sure to email directly -- I am not a current subscriber to the list. Thanks in advance, Fran Lawas-Grodek Cleveland, OH USA Fran.Lawas-Grodek(a)nasa.gov

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approving / editing messages in the administrative database queue
by Kenneth Bruyninckx May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

Hello, This one had got me baffled and after having checked both archives and available documentation I need your help on this. I have, like anybody else I'm sure, from time to time some bounces on the list. These bounces are caused by the usual things like "admin requests", "non-member submission" and "message longer than x Kb". Now my problem is with the last type. I have set a limit of 10 Kb for a single message as some people just hit reply on a digest and do not remove the previous discussions :-( So I get this message in the administrative database awaiting my action. Now the action needed is to "trim"/delete part of the mail. 1) why is it not possible to "edit" the message from within the webpages, because that is where I "look" at them in the first place 2) if the above is not possible, can someone explain me the exact and most efficient (!) method of forwarding + approving the message. I have read that you should include an Approved: header, but I must be doing something wrong. Suppose the following message: "From: Someone@somewhere .net Date: .... Subject: something ... long text ..." Now if I "approve" this I would send the following in the mail body to the list (after I did the forward) "Approved: "my moderation password" From: Someone@somewhere .net Date: .... Subject: something ... trimmed text ..." What happens is that this message is then stripped of almost ALL headers in the body except for Subject and Date and it appears as if I am the author then because the original From: address in the body is gone AND is not "re-used" as it would be under Majordomo :-( :-( Is there a fix for this ? What am I missing ? kind regards, Kenneth.

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Notification of mail that is bounced is not being forwarded to List Admin
by RandMWolf＠aol.com May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

I have Mailman 2.0.13 installed on Redhat 8.0 . The MTA is exim. I am having a problem that bounced e-mail is not being forwarded to the list admin. I have configured the bounce options to notify the list admin. What can I check into to find out why the list-admin is not receiving the bounced info ? Reuven Wolf Tekmates

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Customization questions
by Nigel MacGeorge May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

My hosting provider has set Mailman up for us and the default installation only allows limited customization. Is it possible to: 1) edit the welcome emails Mailman sends out? How? 2) not show the admin email addresses at the bottom of pages? 3) use a support forum? Many thanks, Mac

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upgrading mailman 1.0.13 - mailman2.0
by Aris Santillan May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

hi have anyone tried upgrading there old mailman with the new one? using rpm -Uvh ? thanks

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qrunner looping on confirm message
by Gerald Combs May 29, 2003

May 29, 2003

I recently upgraded from Mailman 2.0.8 to 2.1.2. Since then I've run into a wierd problem where qrunner appears to be looping on a message in the "out" queue. The message itself is a subscription confirmation from a nonexistent local user; apparently someone tried to subscribe and forgot to add the domain to their email address. The only fix I've found so far is to manually stop qrunner, remove the offending .db and .pck file, and restart qrunner.

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Weird lock error
by William R. Dickson May 28, 2003

May 28, 2003

At least, it looks weird to me. No lockfiles are present. I once had something like this happen with a corrupt .msg file, but I tried removing all files from the qfiles directory, and the problem recurs with all new mail. This began after moving the lists to a new server, running FreeBSD 4.8 rather than 4.4, and Python 2.2.2. I have multiple Mailman installations so I can handle virtual domains (one installation per domain, allows me to have both "foo(a)domain1.com" and "foo(a)domain2.com"); I'm reluctant to upgrade to 2.1.2 until I figure out how the new qrunner scheme is going to work with this setup. Only one of the domains seems to have this problem; the rest are working fine. I've tried reinstalling mailman for this domain, removing lockfiles, removing queue files, removing the archives and creating a new directory, checked permissions on the directories. Any thoughts? Thanks, -Bill May 28 14:24:05 2003 (50423) Delivery exception: May 28 14:24:06 2003 (50423) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py", line 77, in process mlist.Lock() File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1339, in L ock self.__lock.lock(timeout) File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 266, in lo ck raise AlreadyLockedError AlreadyLockedError May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): Traceback (most recent call last): May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ cron/qrunner", line 283, in ? May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): kids = main(lock) May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ cron/qrunner", line 264, in main May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): mlist.Save() May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ Mailman/MailList.py", line 861, in Save May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir() May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 253, in CheckHTMLArchiveDir May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): breaklink(pubdir) May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): File "/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/ Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 50, in breaklink May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): os.unlink(link) May 28 14:24:06 2003 qrunner(50423): OSError : [Errno 1] Operation not permitte d: '/usr/local/mailman/diversityrx.org/archives/public/ncihc-list' -- William R. Dickson wrd(a)awenet.com - http://www.seavoy-dickson.org/

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